The Occupation of Arván (OOC | TWI ONLY)

[Corindia]

I'd be willing to deploy a few units to assist in the takeover. Maybe there are Corindi citizens or plantations that have been attacked and we'd prefer stable Noronican rule

Interesting.

So Corindi business or tourists are already in Arván? That could make things interesting for the international side of things. Could these be plants that are meant for medication but are desirable for drugs by cartels? (Not needed - just interested because the cartels are running a lot of the show in Arván)

Well, probably not too many tourists but certainly businesses. And I was envisioning fruit plantations. They shouldn't be ran by the cartels, which is why they're so threatened by the cartels.

[Noronica]

Interesting.

So Corindi business or tourists are already in Arván? That could make things interesting for the international side of things. Could these be plants that are meant for medication but are desirable for drugs by cartels? (Not needed - just interested because the cartels are running a lot of the show in Arván)

Well, probably not too many tourists but certainly businesses. And I was envisioning fruit plantations. They shouldn't be ran by the cartels, which is why they're so threatened by the cartels.

Fine, that would be fun to RP with the cartels coming in with military stuff to a small plantation. I'll be doing a news post in the near future detailing the problems with Arván. Is this how you find out, or do you have other ways of knowing, (operatives, etc.)?

[Corindia]

Well, probably not too many tourists but certainly businesses. And I was envisioning fruit plantations. They shouldn't be ran by the cartels, which is why they're so threatened by the cartels.

Fine, that would be fun to RP with the cartels coming in with military stuff to a small plantation. I'll be doing a news post in the near future detailing the problems with Arván. Is this how you find out, or do you have other ways of knowing, (operatives, etc.)?

I'm sure that the Corindi government would recieve notice from the plantation owners if they felt threatened. The same owners could lobby the government to stabilize the region by assisting Noronica.

[Noronica]

Fine, that would be fun to RP with the cartels coming in with military stuff to a small plantation. I'll be doing a news post in the near future detailing the problems with Arván. Is this how you find out, or do you have other ways of knowing, (operatives, etc.)?

I'm sure that the Corindi government would recieve notice from the plantation owners if they felt threatened. The same owners could lobby the government to stabilize the region by assisting Noronica.

Okay, makes sense.

On another point, this would be a good opportunity to use the Coyote jeeps!

[Helvetea]

I'm sure that the Corindi government would recieve notice from the plantation owners if they felt threatened. The same owners could lobby the government to stabilize the region by assisting Noronica.

Okay, makes sense.

On another point, this would be a good opportunity to use the Coyote jeeps!

Huh?

[Covonant]

Tagging. Hey, noron, you seem like a good and experienced roleplayer.

I read that as "Hey moron!"

Thanks, this is actually my first ever RP that I have made myself.

I read it as Hey moron as well. Either way how van Covonant help. You might need my backing to keep you in the C6 and the CU.

[Noronica]

Okay, makes sense.

On another point, this would be a good opportunity to use the Coyote jeeps!

Huh?

Corindia and I made a jeep;

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=noronica/detail=factbook/id=741125

[Noronica]

I read that as "Hey moron!"

Thanks, this is actually my first ever RP that I have made myself.

I read it as Hey moron as well. Either way how van Covonant help. You might need my backing to keep you in the C6 and the CU.

Do you mean that the C6 and CU would be against this?

[Covonant]

Maybe not seeing that you have explicit good reasons for intervening. As with international organization, they will be bias towards their allies and assist if they too see benefits. Covonant however wants to play its role without the C6 or CU. I am however interested in one thing which is for the Noronican government to secure a land on Arvan for Covonantian use as a military base for our operations up north.

[Norstham]

Would like to assist the takeover militarily. Supporting the Noronican control over that area would (1) benefit our already close relations, (2) allow for easier logistics of trade between the nations and of the Oster control of Lovsk, and (3) hopefully strengthen the Oster military\government presence on both sides of the crucial passage between the Eterna and Argean Seas.

Great minds think alike

[Noronica]

Maybe not seeing that you have explicit good reasons for intervening. As with international organization, they will be bias towards their allies and assist if they too see benefits. Covonant however wants to play its role without the C6 or CU. I am however interested in one thing which is for the Noronican government to secure a land on Arvan for Covonantian use as a military base for our operations up north.

As long as Covonant provided support, Noronica would be glad to allow this.

Noronica will eventually build a military base themselves as they need a garrison stationed there.

[Polar Svalbard]

If I could I'd be interested in having Svalbardian military intelligence stage terrorist attacks throughout the peninsula to make fighting prolonged and any gains made from this venture less as growing powers in the area who aren't on Polar Svalbard's ally list or in Polar Svalbard's pockets should be shut down behind closed doors.

[Covonant]

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Maybe not seeing that you have explicit good reasons for intervening. As with international organization, they will be bias towards their allies and assist if they too see benefits. Covonant however wants to play its role without the C6 or CU. I am however interested in one thing which is for the Noronican government to secure a land on Arvan for Covonantian use as a military base for our operations up north.

As long as Covonant provided support, Noronica would be glad to allow this.

Noronica will eventually build a military base themselves as they need a garrison stationed there.

I am thinking I could use propaganda to get involved. Saying it affects the stability of our allies and due to the mutual defense agreement we have (though we don't have a bilateral one but a C6 one) I can intervene militarily and provide necessary Intel.

[Noronica]

If I could I'd be interested in having Svalbardian military intelligence stage terrorist attacks throughout the peninsula to make fighting prolonged and any gains made from this venture less as growing powers in the area who aren't on Polar Svalbard's ally list or in Polar Svalbard's pockets should be shut down behind closed doors.

"Growing powers" - referring to Noronica or Arván?

[Noronica]

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As long as Covonant provided support, Noronica would be glad to allow this.

Noronica will eventually build a military base themselves as they need a garrison stationed there.

I am thinking I could use propaganda to get involved. Saying it affects the stability of our allies and due to the mutual defense agreement we have (though we don't have a bilateral one but a C6 one) I can intervene militarily and provide necessary Intel.

I'm fine with that. Noronica will be making anti-Arván propaganda after the Arvanan President decided testing Noronnican air defences was a good idea.

[Polar Svalbard]

If I could I'd be interested in having Svalbardian military intelligence stage terrorist attacks throughout the peninsula to make fighting prolonged and any gains made from this venture less as growing powers in the area who aren't on Polar Svalbard's ally list or in Polar Svalbard's pockets should be shut down behind closed doors.

"Growing powers" - referring to Noronica or Arván?

Noronica, Polar Svalbard likely doesn't give two shits about Arvan and is probably one of the reasons for the director to initiate terrorist attacks across Arvan once you get in there.

[Covonant]

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I am thinking I could use propaganda to get involved. Saying it affects the stability of our allies and due to the mutual defense agreement we have (though we don't have a bilateral one but a C6 one) I can intervene militarily and provide necessary Intel.

I'm fine with that. Noronica will be making anti-Arván propaganda after the Arvanan President decided testing Noronnican air defences was a good idea.

I can work with this. I will work off what you use as a means to intervene and send my support. Is it more so land troops or air force is needed?

[Norstham]

"Growing powers" - referring to Noronica or Arván?

Noronica, Polar Svalbard likely doesn't give two shits about Arvan and is probably one of the reasons for the director to initiate terrorist attacks across Arvan once you get in there.

Wouldn't that likely contradict the fact that I'm supporting Noronican forces? (The government say it's to crush the human trafficing but in reality it's the Norsan government and military flexing their muscles a long way from home.)

[Noronica]

I'm fine with that. Noronica will be making anti-Arván propaganda after the Arvanan President decided testing Noronnican air defences was a good idea.

I can work with this. I will work off what you use as a means to intervene and send my support. Is it more so land troops or air force is needed?

Both really, but land is way more necessary because the Arvanan airforce is quite frankly - shit. Air power would focus on the outposts and harassing them.

[Polar Svalbard]

Noronica, Polar Svalbard likely doesn't give two shits about Arvan and is probably one of the reasons for the director to initiate terrorist attacks across Arvan once you get in there.

Wouldn't that likely contradict the fact that I'm supporting Noronican forces? (The government say it's to crush the human trafficing but in reality it's the Norsan government and military flexing their muscles a long way from home.)

Why would it contradict that?

[Noronica]

"Growing powers" - referring to Noronica or Arván?

Noronica, Polar Svalbard likely doesn't give two shits about Arvan and is probably one of the reasons for the director to initiate terrorist attacks across Arvan once you get in there.

I'm in Vancouvia's allies list and I'm in the Coalition and League.

I like your idea, but will I find out the Svalbard is supporting the terrorists?

One more thing - you'd most likely be supporting the Noronnican Nationalist Party which seeks to turn Noronica into a shithole and control both Noronica and Arván.

[Norstham]

Wouldn't that likely contradict the fact that I'm supporting Noronican forces? (The government say it's to crush the human trafficing but in reality it's the Norsan government and military flexing their muscles a long way from home.)

Why would it contradict that?

I might have gotten the wrong end of the stick but I got from it that the terrorist attacks would be against the Noronican forces, which the Norsan are supporting, and that seems weird given that we are close allies through the MSTO. I've just realised I worded my last post really badly but hopefully that explains it.

[Polar Svalbard]

Noronica, Polar Svalbard likely doesn't give two shits about Arvan and is probably one of the reasons for the director to initiate terrorist attacks across Arvan once you get in there.

I'm in Vancouvia's allies list and I'm in the Coalition and League.

I like your idea, but will I find out the Svalbard is supporting the terrorists?

One more thing - you'd most likely be supporting the Noronnican Nationalist Party which seeks to turn Noronica into a shithole and control both Noronica and Arván.

I'd say no, I won't be doing too too much, but if you wish to do something we could do a side plot that revolves around bribery in your national government to cover up Svalbardian Involvement in the conflict.

[Noronica]

I'm in Vancouvia's allies list and I'm in the Coalition and League.

I like your idea, but will I find out the Svalbard is supporting the terrorists?

One more thing - you'd most likely be supporting the Noronnican Nationalist Party which seeks to turn Noronica into a shithole and control both Noronica and Arván.

I'd say no, I won't be doing too too much, but if you wish to do something we could do a side plot that revolves around bribery in your national government to cover up Svalbardian Involvement in the conflict.

I just thought that since Noronica is going to crack down hard, they might find out something. I suppose bribing could be fine, or Noronica might not find out at all - your choice.

[Polar Svalbard]

Why would it contradict that?

I might have gotten the wrong end of the stick but I got from it that the terrorist attacks would be against the Noronican forces, which the Norsan are supporting, and that seems weird given that we are close allies through the MSTO. I've just realised I worded my last post really badly but hopefully that explains it.

Ah yes, but Noronica isn't an MSTO member. I think that SMI would try to not injure your forces in the process as this is mostly to create chaos and possibly drag Noronica into the international spotlight. Better to stop growing powers than let them grow.