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Postby Pozlacenslavia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:50 pm

Atnaia wrote:
Pozlacenslavia wrote:My nation (to my knowledge) has not been directly threatened by SOAR, and it is a relatively large, stable nation with a compassionate foreign policy. It would be a good host nation.
Perhaps, with a bit of diplomatic nudging and budging from Poz, the international community would realize that they can't tackle this issue alone and they need to convene to pool resources into stopping a potentially catastrophic weapon.

That still seems very long term, or at least slow. There is an IMMEDIATE and present threat of detonations of the weapon AT ANY TIME.

Super-fast and super-secret meeting in a rural, spooky village of mine?
It can start out as just 2 or 3 nations, and then operate and expand from there.
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Postby Pozlacenslavia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:46 pm

Pozlacenslavia wrote:
Atnaia wrote:That still seems very long term, or at least slow. There is an IMMEDIATE and present threat of detonations of the weapon AT ANY TIME.

Super-fast and super-secret meeting in a rural, spooky village of mine?
It can start out as just 2 or 3 nations, and then operate and expand from there.

I oughta clarify, I meant that I send some police officers and investigators over to work this out, then afterwards (or maybe even during these events) we can hammer out an international police force via diplomacy.
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Postby Atnaia » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:25 pm

Pozlacenslavia wrote:
Pozlacenslavia wrote:Super-fast and super-secret meeting in a rural, spooky village of mine?
It can start out as just 2 or 3 nations, and then operate and expand from there.

I oughta clarify, I meant that I send some police officers and investigators over to work this out, then afterwards (or maybe even during these events) we can hammer out an international police force via diplomacy.

That would add another plotline, but I am basically okay with it. I'm still unsure why your nation would get involved if you decided they weren't on SOAR's hit-list.
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Postby Pozlacenslavia » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:59 pm

Atnaia wrote:
Pozlacenslavia wrote:I oughta clarify, I meant that I send some police officers and investigators over to work this out, then afterwards (or maybe even during these events) we can hammer out an international police force via diplomacy.

That would add another plotline, but I am basically okay with it. I'm still unsure why your nation would get involved if you decided they weren't on SOAR's hit-list.

A nice favor.
I have an idea for a first post.
I can post some agents of the special police going through a training to simulate busting into a Ghost-In-Sea facility in Poz, then it is interrupted and they are briefed that they are being flown out to LISA's location (IDK where or what it looks like) with all the info we have on SOAR. (It might help if we were in cahoots intelligence-wise- I also could have the Juniper Berry in my harbor if you wanted.
Second post is the agents arrive in the bullpen, introductions, yada yada etc, we work it out from there.
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Postby Atnaia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:13 am

We can assume that my government has put out invitations for the heads of various internal intelligence agencies' heads to meet and try and form a task force.
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Postby Keomora » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:27 am

Atnaia wrote:We can assume that my government has put out invitations for the heads of various internal intelligence agencies' heads to meet and try and form a task force.

Actually when will that happen?
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Postby Atnaia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:30 am

Keomora wrote:
Atnaia wrote:We can assume that my government has put out invitations for the heads of various internal intelligence agencies' heads to meet and try and form a task force.

Actually when will that happen?

Whenever I see anybody giving a shit.
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Postby Keomora » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:36 am

Atnaia wrote:
Keomora wrote:Actually when will that happen?

Whenever I see anybody giving a shit.

Okay.
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Postby Ostehaar » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:30 pm

A few things to note, following my recent IC post:

- Just in case it wasn't clear: a SOAR cell in Lovsk managed to detonate their bio-weapon on a large group of Oster soldiers in central Rovka, where rioting was taking place, killing some of them and some local civilians as well.
- As with most security incidents in Lovsk, this story will be silenced by Oster authorities. That's why I didn't publish anything about it in the news thread.
- The situation in Lovsk will probably stay the same, since Ostehaar is already trying to crack-down on SOAR in Lovsk and is already limiting the rights and liberties of the local population to do so. That said, the soldiers themselves would probably be more trigger-happy and agitated, so it might result in more violent incidents.

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Postby The Grand Force » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:23 pm

I think I could find a way in to this your planning to use Ghost for a bio fuel correct? My economy is mostly based on oil if there was a cheaper more efficient bio fuel people would stop buying from me putting a huge hole in my economy as no one would buy my oil. So I could try to destroy all of your research on the matter securing my oil trade then I would hunt down SOAR and destroy everything.
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Postby Atnaia » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:16 pm

The Grand Force wrote:I think I could find a way in to this your planning to use Ghost for a bio fuel correct? My economy is mostly based on oil if there was a cheaper more efficient bio fuel people would stop buying from me putting a huge hole in my economy as no one would buy my oil. So I could try to destroy all of your research on the matter securing my oil trade then I would hunt down SOAR and destroy everything.

...uh, no. Firstly, while I am planning on using GIS as biofuel, or at least research into that is where the weapon started, IRL common algae-based biofuels are another 10 to 20 years away at earliest, and therefore I am most certainly not on the verge of any breakthroughs. Producing it in any large quantities requires far, far more efficient bioreactors. The technology simply isn't there. So it would not be immediately pressing for your government to even try and destroy anything.

Secondly, SOAR is a massive, decentralized, international, cell-based terror organization operating in multilateral and unconnected ways. "Hunting them down" is practically impossible, as we have already seen thus far.
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Postby Pozlacenslavia » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:15 pm

Atnaia wrote:
Keomora wrote:Actually when will that happen?

Whenever I see anybody giving a shit.

Has it been formed yet? Don't forget my guys, I'm writing an opening post soon.
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Postby Ostehaar » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:40 am

Pozlacenslavia wrote:
Atnaia wrote:Whenever I see anybody giving a shit.

Has it been formed yet? Don't forget my guys, I'm writing an opening post soon.

People have to be around for it to get formed. Join in the RP and you'll be a part of it. :)

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Postby Itztlica » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:26 pm

I'll try to do an opening post soon maybe, I'm not sure exactly on the setting as this is alot to read.

Do I just intro my characters and their part in the story?

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Postby Ostehaar » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:37 pm

Itztlica wrote:I'm not sure exactly on the setting as this is alot to read.

The setting isn't much different than what you can read in the first few posts. There are still a few SOAR cells out there, threatening to bio-bomb spots across the region. The posts mainly deal with how our own intelligence agencies tried to find out about their plans and stop them - but anyone can join the story to gradually get the general situation.

Itztlica wrote:Do I just intro my characters and their part in the story?

First just explain a bit how you want to get involved. Atnaia would tell you if you may post in the IC or not. :)

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Postby Itztlica » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:14 pm

Okay thanks :)

Itztlica has communist rebels in it's country, they specifically belong the group called Pocarn(mayans) who believe they are oppressed by the Qa'zatec(aztec). The Pocarn have support of a vast majority of the tribal Chiefdoms and hate the Imperial Confederation. I was thinking these rebels could grow in numbers, and try to cooperate with SOAR to acquire Ghost-In-Sea as a threat/initiate to their revolution.

Vice versa the confederate government wants to do the same thing, and use Ghost-In-Sea against ethnic Pocarn groups who might rebel.

This basically ends up as a race to acquire it, by both sides.
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Postby Ostehaar » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:30 pm

Itztlica wrote:Itztlica has communist rebels in it's country, [...] I was thinking these rebels could grow in numbers, and try to cooperate with SOAR to acquire Ghost-In-Sea as a threat/initiate to their revolution.

This is a possible new direction of the RP, I think. Up to now we've seen only SOAR activities and attacks - making other unrelated groups contact them to acquire the weapon is interesting.
Actually, this raises an idea I'd like to propose - since this is a rebel group that's in your nation, I assume your intelligence agencies have spies or informants among them. In cooperation with the information I and Atnaia have, we could use this acquisition as a lead and find out more about the people behind the weapons in SOAR.

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Postby Itztlica » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:17 pm

Ostehaar wrote:
Itztlica wrote:Itztlica has communist rebels in it's country, [...] I was thinking these rebels could grow in numbers, and try to cooperate with SOAR to acquire Ghost-In-Sea as a threat/initiate to their revolution.

This is a possible new direction of the RP, I think. Up to now we've seen only SOAR activities and attacks - making other unrelated groups contact them to acquire the weapon is interesting.
Actually, this raises an idea I'd like to propose - since this is a rebel group that's in your nation, I assume your intelligence agencies have spies or informants among them. In cooperation with the information I and Atnaia have, we could use this acquisition as a lead and find out more about the people behind the weapons in SOAR.

Sure, this could turn into interesting things, i'm not set on a specific outcome so I'm open to anything. The government would be willing to closely cooperate with Ostenhaar and Atnaia, though I can't lie the Imperial Confederation is highly deceptive and as stated before, it may want to acquire the weapon itself instead of destroying it/helping. Which could spice things up definitely ^^

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Postby Atnaia » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:41 am

Itztlica wrote:
Ostehaar wrote:This is a possible new direction of the RP, I think. Up to now we've seen only SOAR activities and attacks - making other unrelated groups contact them to acquire the weapon is interesting.
Actually, this raises an idea I'd like to propose - since this is a rebel group that's in your nation, I assume your intelligence agencies have spies or informants among them. In cooperation with the information I and Atnaia have, we could use this acquisition as a lead and find out more about the people behind the weapons in SOAR.

Sure, this could turn into interesting things, i'm not set on a specific outcome so I'm open to anything. The government would be willing to closely cooperate with Ostenhaar and Atnaia, though I can't lie the Imperial Confederation is highly deceptive and as stated before, it may want to acquire the weapon itself instead of destroying it/helping. Which could spice things up definitely ^^

That's not an issue. There is ZERO chance that the Atnaian government (or Stone Wall-Bastion Special Projects Division) isn't hauling ass to try and capture the weapon (or develop comparable). Considering my nation's fairly clear "left hand-right hand" set up for most of its ops, it wouldn't be unlikely that a different LISA force exists that is currently PERPETUATING the attacks, while the one I've been following are trying to shut them down.
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Postby Noronica » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:33 pm

I would like to involve Noronica in this.

I have made an intelligence service factbook here. I feel that because there are tensions in Lövsk (right next to Noronica) and with the Coalition explanation, Noronica should be involved. I can use my intelligence service and contribute to that task force that was being discussed.

There is also another matter I would like to discuss; as Noronica recently went through a rebellion against a violent regime, there are still some 'stragglers'. I have an idea of them being like terrorist neo-nazis - they are a primarily fascist group with the intentions of replacing the Overlord with a One-Party state. I'm guessing that this goes against SOAR ideals, so would it be possible for a fight to occur between those two if my group starts trying to get the ghost?

Is this okay?
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Postby Itztlica » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:34 pm

I can make an opening post tomorrow or the day after, been on phone and busy lately.

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Postby Atnaia » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:07 pm

Pozlacenslavia wrote:
Atnaia wrote:Whenever I see anybody giving a shit.

Has it been formed yet? Don't forget my guys, I'm writing an opening post soon.

I've posted several times mentioning my government people inviting people to it but no one has mentioned it.
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Postby Atnaia » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:10 pm

Noronica wrote:I would like to involve Noronica in this.

I have made an intelligence service factbook here. I feel that because there are tensions in Lövsk (right next to Noronica) and with the Coalition explanation, Noronica should be involved. I can use my intelligence service and contribute to that task force that was being discussed.

There is also another matter I would like to discuss; as Noronica recently went through a rebellion against a violent regime, there are still some 'stragglers'. I have an idea of them being like terrorist neo-nazis - they are a primarily fascist group with the intentions of replacing the Overlord with a One-Party state. I'm guessing that this goes against SOAR ideals, so would it be possible for a fight to occur between those two if my group starts trying to get the ghost?

Is this okay?


A fight is fine, although remember terrorist organizations =/= armies. So be careful about portraying SOAR as anything other than extremely dangerous clandestine cells.
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Postby Noronica » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:20 pm

Atnaia wrote:A fight is fine, although remember terrorist organizations =/= armies. So be careful about portraying SOAR as anything other than extremely dangerous clandestine cells.


Don't worry, I wasn't planning on making this a huge thing, I just meant small skirmishes or fights on the streets - small things. I should have worded my response better as I actually just meant two small terrorist cells having the occasional fight, nothing army-scale. My fascist group are nothing more than idealists with small numbers.

Is the rest of my plan good, (i.e - my intelligence service joining the fray)?

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Postby Atnaia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:21 am

Noronica wrote:
Atnaia wrote:A fight is fine, although remember terrorist organizations =/= armies. So be careful about portraying SOAR as anything other than extremely dangerous clandestine cells.


Don't worry, I wasn't planning on making this a huge thing, I just meant small skirmishes or fights on the streets - small things. I should have worded my response better as I actually just meant two small terrorist cells having the occasional fight, nothing army-scale. My fascist group are nothing more than idealists with small numbers.

Is the rest of my plan good, (i.e - my intelligence service joining the fray)?

I'd like to pull things a little tighter by having anyone who is joining do so by operating with the new taskforce.
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