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[Norcourt]

My army is currently studying modern mechanized infantry tactics...

We're trying to increase our strategical value, this is the same reason why we're building new modern weaponry.

My army is definitely going to have to learn how to use maneuver warfare. In its current state, there is no way we could stand up with the tactics currently being used, but if we use fire and maneuver tactics we would stand a better chance. Billys history as the commander of the armored corp will give him an advantage, as the Armored Corp already used those tactics. Keep moving, dont let them get a bead on you.

Indeed. You must advance, never retreat unless necessary.

I've also been thinking about issuing Semi-Auto Bannerman Conversions, just as manticore said.
Also thinking about SMGs

[The Twelve Isles]

My army is definitely going to have to learn how to use maneuver warfare. In its current state, there is no way we could stand up with the tactics currently being used, but if we use fire and maneuver tactics we would stand a better chance. Billys history as the commander of the armored corp will give him an advantage, as the Armored Corp already used those tactics. Keep moving, dont let them get a bead on you.

Indeed. You must advance, never retreat unless necessary.

I've also been thinking about issuing Semi-Auto Bannerman Conversions, just as manticore said.
Also thinking about SMGs

I feel like SMG's might be a little unrealistic. Out tech levels are a advanced by a few more years than they were in the actual 1890 though, so I could see semi auto rifles.

[The Traansval]

My army is currently studying modern mechanized infantry tactics...

We're trying to increase our strategical value, this is the same reason why we're building new modern weaponry.

I'm planning to create a special branch of the Gepantserd Korp (Armored Korp) made entirely of Motorized Infantry Divisions.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Indeed. You must advance, never retreat unless necessary.

I've also been thinking about issuing Semi-Auto Bannerman Conversions, just as manticore said.
Also thinking about SMGs

I feel like SMG's might be a little unrealistic. Out tech levels are a advanced by a few more years than they were in the actual 1890 though, so I could see semi auto rifles.

Perhaps the C96 carbine first and SMGs by about '98 ish?

[The Traansval]

Indeed. You must advance, never retreat unless necessary.

I've also been thinking about issuing Semi-Auto Bannerman Conversions, just as manticore said.
Also thinking about SMGs

I feel like SMG's might be a little unrealistic. Out tech levels are a advanced by a few more years than they were in the actual 1890 though, so I could see semi auto rifles.

Yeah, i'm going to say no SMG's. Machine Guns can be fired at the hip is one thing, but SMGs are another...

Also, if you want, you could use Semi-Auto Carbines instead of SMG's, thats what Tekno does. His entire military (Its a rather small military might i add) is armed with Semi-Auto Pistol Carbines.

[The Traansval]

I feel like SMG's might be a little unrealistic. Out tech levels are a advanced by a few more years than they were in the actual 1890 though, so I could see semi auto rifles.

Perhaps the C96 carbine first and SMGs by about '98 ish?

Yeah, thats what i just said. For now, Pistol Carbines can provide a realistic alternative to SMG's.

[The Traansval]

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[Norcourt]

Did a thing...




"The M1896 LMG was seen as a valuable weapon in the battlefield, many soldiers gave few complaints about such weapon. Many of these issues, were fixed in the M1900 Vergaus Mk2 LMG. Parts like the Water jacket, were seen as too cumbersome, and unnecessary for the terrain in which most soldiers were fighting in. This would also give a significant decrease in weight. The stock was seen as too awkward, and was replaced with a more curvy one. Many of the M1896s were converted to the above LMG, while the last un-edited 1896s, were often kept in storage for later use if need be, or deployed as a defensive weapon."

[The Traansval]

Did a thing...

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"The M1896 LMG was seen as a valuable weapon in the battlefield, many soldiers gave few complaints about such weapon. Many of these issues, were fixed in the M1900 Vergaus Mk2 LMG. Parts like the Water jacket, were seen as too cumbersome, and unnecessary for the terrain in which most soldiers were fighting in. This would also give a significant decrease in weight. The stock was seen as too awkward, and was replaced with a more curvy one. Many of the M1896s were converted to the above LMG, while the last un-edited 1896s, were often kept in storage for later use if need be, or deployed as a defensive weapon."

I will allow it, as long as it is used in a similar fashion to the Lewis Gun.

By that i mean, i better not see soldiers walking around with these things on their Shoulder, firing it like a rifle. It should be used either in a fixed position with its Bipod, or fired from the hip.

[Norcourt]

Did a thing...

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"The M1896 LMG was seen as a valuable weapon in the battlefield, many soldiers gave few complaints about such weapon. Many of these issues, were fixed in the M1900 Vergaus Mk2 LMG. Parts like the Water jacket, were seen as too cumbersome, and unnecessary for the terrain in which most soldiers were fighting in. This would also give a significant decrease in weight. The stock was seen as too awkward, and was replaced with a more curvy one. Many of the M1896s were converted to the above LMG, while the last un-edited 1896s, were often kept in storage for later use if need be, or deployed as a defensive weapon."

I will allow it, as long as it is used in a similar fashion to the Lewis Gun.

By that i mean, i better not see soldiers walking around with these things on their Shoulder, firing it like a rifle. It should be used either in a fixed position with its Bipod, or fired from the hip.

[Norcourt]

Did a thing...

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"The M1896 LMG was seen as a valuable weapon in the battlefield, many soldiers gave few complaints about such weapon. Many of these issues, were fixed in the M1900 Vergaus Mk2 LMG. Parts like the Water jacket, were seen as too cumbersome, and unnecessary for the terrain in which most soldiers were fighting in. This would also give a significant decrease in weight. The stock was seen as too awkward, and was replaced with a more curvy one. Many of the M1896s were converted to the above LMG, while the last un-edited 1896s, were often kept in storage for later use if need be, or deployed as a defensive weapon."

I will allow it, as long as it is used in a similar fashion to the Lewis Gun.

By that i mean, i better not see soldiers walking around with these things on their Shoulder, firing it like a rifle. It should be used either in a fixed position with its Bipod, or fired from the hip.

I was planning on using it like an M60...

[The Traansval]

I will allow it, as long as it is used in a similar fashion to the Lewis Gun.

By that i mean, i better not see soldiers walking around with these things on their Shoulder, firing it like a rifle. It should be used either in a fixed position with its Bipod, or fired from the hip.

I was planning on using it like an M60...

So, basically you're going to use it both as a LMG to be used by Infantrymen, but also use it mounted on Defensive Positions, Vehicles, Etc.?

[The Traansval]

I love Manticores Scout Car

[The Manticoran Empire]

I love Manticores Scout Car

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I do, too. It's not the most SURVIVABLE vehicle but it does its job and it's cheaper than a horse.

[Arengin Union]

can i have this as a light machine gun?

[The Manticoran Empire]

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can i have this as a light machine gun?

Probably would require a few modifications, mainly asthetic, to bring it into the period but I don't see an issue with it.

[The Traansval]

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can i have this as a light machine gun?

1. Just pointing out, its barrel looks water cooled

2. Where is its magazine?

Other than that, i'm fine with it.

[Halium]

NATION INFORMATION

Nation name: Halium

National goals: To spread its rebellion

Nation's Leader: Cali Merui

National Government: (explain it's workings and set-up) A representative government run by the lord of Halium, Cali Merui, is in place now

National history: Rebelled against its foreign controllers

Territory: small, most of it mountainous, but connected to a small part of the coast

Language: English

National Religion: Atheist

National Culture/Identity: Haliumian

National Passtime: gambling

National holiday:(anything like Independence day) none

Nation's Population: 200,000,000

Allies:(if any) none

Enemies:(if any) none

Political issues:(if any) Democratic factions asking for elections

Chance of revolt:(yes/no) yes

Greatest Victory: Battle of Halium City, 10,000 imperialists dead, end of Halium's Revolutionary War

Most Embarrassing Defeat: Battle Tanyoon 400,000 Haliumians dead


MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Cali Merui

Generals Staff: Drake Fery, Desmond Halium

Military strength: 5,000

1.(divide your land forces into regiments, battalions, corps, brigades, etc.)
1st division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

2nd division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

3rd Division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

Reserve Division (500 men)

1st - 2nd corps (250 men in each)
1st- 10th Platoons (50 men in each)

2. List naval forces, if any
2 destroyers
SS Rebellion
SS Tanyoon

3. List artillery, if any 155 mm Howitzer

ARMAMENT

Infantry


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
Lee-enfield rifle .303

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none, unless the soldier brought one with him

Melee Weapon:
multi-tool shovel

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
clothes the soldiers brought with them, and a government issued brown helmet

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
multi-tool shovel, 5 day ration pack, amo pack, and a canteen

Greatest Strengths:
Guerilla fighting

Greatest Weaknesses:
artillery

Tactics:
Retreat, attack, retreat. Snipers posted to fight an advancing army

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
Fighting in the mountains and trees

Cavalry
very weak, only 50 men


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
revolver

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none

Melee Weapon:
cavalry sword

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
anything they can find

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
same as infantry

Greatest Strengths: running away

Greatest Weaknesses: fighting

Tactics:
scouting, and hit and run

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
fast reload


Artillery

Cannon Types: none

Mortar Types: none

Rockets:(yes/no) no

Howitzers: 155 mm Howitzer

Shell types: regular shells

Men per artillery crew: 4

Mules/Horses: none

Ships

Ship Line:
destroyers

armament:
2 battleship turrets

Crew: 50 men

Accompaniments: (Marines, etc)
15 marines

[Norcourt]

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can i have this as a light machine gun?

1. Just pointing out, its barrel looks water cooled

2. Where is its magazine?

Other than that, i'm fine with it.

Actually, upon further inspection, you can see it has the same air radiator as a Lewis Gun. So, it'd be pretty heavy, but not water cooled heavy. But for some reason it also has the lid or putting water in. This is the problem with fake weapons...always impractical. It might be belt fed.

[Norcourt]

I was planning on using it like an M60...

So, basically you're going to use it both as a LMG to be used by Infantrymen, but also use it mounted on Defensive Positions, Vehicles, Etc.?

Yisssss

[The Manticoran Empire]

NATION INFORMATION

Nation name: Halium

National goals: To spread its rebellion

Nation's Leader: Cali Merui

National Government: (explain it's workings and set-up) A representative government run by the lord of Halium, Cali Merui, is in place now

National history: Rebelled against its foreign controllers

Territory: small, most of it mountainous, but connected to a small part of the coast

Language: English

National Religion: Atheist

National Culture/Identity: Haliumian

National Passtime: gambling

National holiday:(anything like Independence day) none

Nation's Population: 200,000,000

Allies:(if any) none

Enemies:(if any) none

Political issues:(if any) Democratic factions asking for elections

Chance of revolt:(yes/no) yes

Greatest Victory: Battle of Halium City, 10,000 imperialists dead, end of Halium's Revolutionary War

Most Embarrassing Defeat: Battle Tanyoon 400,000 Haliumians dead


MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Cali Merui

Generals Staff: Drake Fery, Desmond Halium

Military strength: 5,000

1.(divide your land forces into regiments, battalions, corps, brigades, etc.)
1st division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

2nd division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

3rd Division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

Reserve Division (500 men)

1st - 2nd corps (250 men in each)
1st- 10th Platoons (50 men in each)

2. List naval forces, if any
2 destroyers
SS Rebellion
SS Tanyoon

3. List artillery, if any 155 mm Howitzer

ARMAMENT

Infantry


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
Lee-enfield rifle .303

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none, unless the soldier brought one with him

Melee Weapon:
multi-tool shovel

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
clothes the soldiers brought with them, and a government issued brown helmet

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
multi-tool shovel, 5 day ration pack, amo pack, and a canteen

Greatest Strengths:
Guerilla fighting

Greatest Weaknesses:
artillery

Tactics:
Retreat, attack, retreat. Snipers posted to fight an advancing army

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
Fighting in the mountains and trees

Cavalry
very weak, only 50 men


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
revolver

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none

Melee Weapon:
cavalry sword

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
anything they can find

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
same as infantry

Greatest Strengths: running away

Greatest Weaknesses: fighting

Tactics:
scouting, and hit and run

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
fast reload


Artillery

Cannon Types: none

Mortar Types: none

Rockets:(yes/no) no

Howitzers: 155 mm Howitzer

Shell types: regular shells

Men per artillery crew: 4

Mules/Horses: none

Ships

Ship Line:
destroyers

armament:
2 battleship turrets

Crew: 50 men

Accompaniments: (Marines, etc)
15 marines

What the? 200 million people?

[Norcourt]

NATION INFORMATION

Nation name: Halium

National goals: To spread its rebellion

Nation's Leader: Cali Merui

National Government: (explain it's workings and set-up) A representative government run by the lord of Halium, Cali Merui, is in place now

National history: Rebelled against its foreign controllers

Territory: small, most of it mountainous, but connected to a small part of the coast

Language: English

National Religion: Atheist

National Culture/Identity: Haliumian

National Passtime: gambling

National holiday:(anything like Independence day) none

Nation's Population: 200,000,000

Allies:(if any) none

Enemies:(if any) none

Political issues:(if any) Democratic factions asking for elections

Chance of revolt:(yes/no) yes

Greatest Victory: Battle of Halium City, 10,000 imperialists dead, end of Halium's Revolutionary War

Most Embarrassing Defeat: Battle Tanyoon 400,000 Haliumians dead


MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Cali Merui

Generals Staff: Drake Fery, Desmond Halium

Military strength: 5,000

1.(divide your land forces into regiments, battalions, corps, brigades, etc.)
1st division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

2nd division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

3rd Division (1,000 men)
1st - 4th corps (250 men)
1st- 20th Platoons (50 men)

Reserve Division (500 men)

1st - 2nd corps (250 men in each)
1st- 10th Platoons (50 men in each)

2. List naval forces, if any
2 destroyers
SS Rebellion
SS Tanyoon

3. List artillery, if any 155 mm Howitzer

ARMAMENT

Infantry


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
Lee-enfield rifle .303

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none, unless the soldier brought one with him

Melee Weapon:
multi-tool shovel

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
clothes the soldiers brought with them, and a government issued brown helmet

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
multi-tool shovel, 5 day ration pack, amo pack, and a canteen

Greatest Strengths:
Guerilla fighting

Greatest Weaknesses:
artillery

Tactics:
Retreat, attack, retreat. Snipers posted to fight an advancing army

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
Fighting in the mountains and trees

Cavalry
very weak, only 50 men


Primary Weapon:(make, model, caliber, size, etc.)
revolver

Secondary Weapon:(Same as Primary)
none

Melee Weapon:
cavalry sword

Uniform:(material, positives, negatives, colors)
anything they can find

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.)
same as infantry

Greatest Strengths: running away

Greatest Weaknesses: fighting

Tactics:
scouting, and hit and run

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.)
fast reload


Artillery

Cannon Types: none

Mortar Types: none

Rockets:(yes/no) no

Howitzers: 155 mm Howitzer

Shell types: regular shells

Men per artillery crew: 4

Mules/Horses: none

Ships

Ship Line:
destroyers

armament:
2 battleship turrets

Crew: 50 men

Accompaniments: (Marines, etc)
15 marines

What the? 200 million people?

Everything else seems sensible. Except the Lee Enfield wasn't in production till 1895 I think. He should stick with the Lee-Metford for now...

[Halium]

What the? 200 million people?

My country is supposed to be loosely based on China's struggle for independence from outside powers, at this time it had 400 million people, so I cut that number in half. Too much? I can lower it if you want.

[Halium]

Everything else seems sensible. Except the Lee Enfield wasn't in production till 1895 I think. He should stick with the Lee-Metford for now...

it wasn't? Sorry I didn't know that, I'll stick with the Lee-Metford then!.

[The Manticoran Empire]

What the? 200 million people?

Everything else seems sensible. Except the Lee Enfield wasn't in production till 1895 I think. He should stick with the Lee-Metford for now...

His history is HORRIBLY empty. His government isn't well explained and, for a country with 200 million people, his military is RIDICULOUSLY small.

What the? 200 million people?

My country is supposed to be loosely based on China's struggle for independence from outside powers, at this time it had 400 million people, so I cut that number in half. Too much? I can lower it if you want.

You'll need to talk to Rannoria or Transvaal about that but, from a cursory glance at the map, the territories that you claimed do not exist. And, based on the size of the territories that are available, 200 million is simply unrealistic. For the map, please look at page 1 slightly below the application post.