1870-1920 Era War: Lockin' up (Continue to New Thread)

[Norcourt]

I tried to make a Semi-Auto pistol caliber carbine, to be used by Storm troops...



It looks a wee bit too advanced for our era. If it's allowed, I might use it, however for now, my Trench Knights, are to use Bannerman-Croft Artillery\Cavalry carbines. Like this one (bottom)...

[Arengin Union]

I tried to make a Semi-Auto pistol caliber carbine, to be used by Storm troops...

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It looks a wee bit too advanced for our era. If it's allowed, I might use it, however for now, my Trench Knights, are to use Bannerman-Croft Artillery\Cavalry carbines. Like this one (bottom)...

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you should wait for the 1890s to introduce it.

[Skarten]

I tried to make a Semi-Auto pistol caliber carbine, to be used by Storm troops...

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It looks a wee bit too advanced for our era. If it's allowed, I might use it, however for now, my Trench Knights, are to use Bannerman-Croft Artillery\Cavalry carbines. Like this one (bottom)...

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you should wait for the 1890s to introduce it.

THANK You for forgetting me...
Hmph

I'M IN THE WAR TOO DAMNIT!

Guess i'll go somewhere in Volga and claim an piece of land

[Arengin Union]

you should wait for the 1890s to introduce it.

THANK You for forgetting me...
Hmph

I'M IN THE WAR TOO DAMNIT!

Guess i'll go somewhere in Volga and claim an piece of land

Calm down. You can have a piece of the pie too but I'm sort of stressed out with Manticore breathing down my neck and having to now led the entete since most Allies are not active.

[Skarten]

THANK You for forgetting me...
Hmph

I'M IN THE WAR TOO DAMNIT!

Guess i'll go somewhere in Volga and claim an piece of land

Calm down. You can have a piece of the pie too but I'm sort of stressed out with Manticore breathing down my neck and having to now led the entete since most Allies are not active.

Well, then


Try to send me a message about Manticore,i got a idea

[The Manticoran Empire]

Calm down. You can have a piece of the pie too but I'm sort of stressed out with Manticore breathing down my neck and having to now led the entete since most Allies are not active.

Well, then


Try to send me a message about Manticore,i got a idea

Try it. Neither of you have the firepower required, even combined.

[Arengin Union]

Well, then


Try to send me a message about Manticore,i got a idea

Try it. Neither of you have the firepower required, even combined.

Yes we do. We have the industrial and military capabilities to fave you.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Try it. Neither of you have the firepower required, even combined.

Yes we do. We have the industrial and military capabilities to fave you.

Oh? What matters is WARSHIPS. You can't bring your troops to my lands without a fleet of transports. And those transports won't make it without escorts. And neither of you have enough escorts. Not mention I have spent the last year IC rebuilding or building from scratch coastal defense fortifications around ports and any beach that is conducive to a landing. Even ones that aren't have naval mines and landmines can be quickly buried. Millions of landmines. Even if you manage to load 3-6 million people onto transports, which no nation in history has accomplished. The Persian invasion of Greece in 480 BC was land based and the Allied invasion of Normandy was only over 2,000,000 troops after THREE MONTHS. Why? Because transports can only carry about 2,500 to 3,500 people. You simply don't have the necessary SHIPs and building more would take years.

[Arengin Union]

Yes we do. We have the industrial and military capabilities to fave you.

Oh? What matters is WARSHIPS. You can't bring your troops to my lands without a fleet of transports. And those transports won't make it without escorts. And neither of you have enough escorts. Not mention I have spent the last year IC rebuilding or building from scratch coastal defense fortifications around ports and any beach that is conducive to a landing. Even ones that aren't have naval mines and landmines can be quickly buried. Millions of landmines. Even if you manage to load 3-6 million people onto transports, which no nation in history has accomplished. The Persian invasion of Greece in 480 BC was land based and the Allied invasion of Normandy was only over 2,000,000 troops after THREE MONTHS. Why? Because transports can only carry about 2,500 to 3,500 people. You simply don't have the necessary SHIPs and building more would take years.

Yeah okay keep thinking that.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Oh? What matters is WARSHIPS. You can't bring your troops to my lands without a fleet of transports. And those transports won't make it without escorts. And neither of you have enough escorts. Not mention I have spent the last year IC rebuilding or building from scratch coastal defense fortifications around ports and any beach that is conducive to a landing. Even ones that aren't have naval mines and landmines can be quickly buried. Millions of landmines. Even if you manage to load 3-6 million people onto transports, which no nation in history has accomplished. The Persian invasion of Greece in 480 BC was land based and the Allied invasion of Normandy was only over 2,000,000 troops after THREE MONTHS. Why? Because transports can only carry about 2,500 to 3,500 people. You simply don't have the necessary SHIPs and building more would take years.

Yeah okay keep thinking that.

Thinking? I know it. A battleship takes 18-24 months to build. Even if multiple yards are working on several ships, expansion takes a long time. Particularly the amount of expansion you seek. Skarten only has one fleet. You're not much better off.

[Arengin Union]

Yeah okay keep thinking that.

Thinking? I know it. A battleship takes 18-24 months to build. Even if multiple yards are working on several ships, expansion takes a long time. Particularly the amount of expansion you seek. Skarten only has one fleet. You're not much better off.

There will be blood.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Thinking? I know it. A battleship takes 18-24 months to build. Even if multiple yards are working on several ships, expansion takes a long time. Particularly the amount of expansion you seek. Skarten only has one fleet. You're not much better off.

There will be blood.

Of course there will. That is a natural part of warfare. However, with current naval technology, every battle will be like Jutland: indecisive and costly. The objective of your navy would be to gain control of the seas, as would be mine. Neither fleet could accomplish that as the range and armor protection of modern warships prevent. One need only look at Jutland, where the British Grand Fleet of 151 ships fought the German Fleet of 99 vessels. The British lost 6,094 sailors killed, 674 wounded, and 177 captured, 3 battlecruisers, 3 armored cruisers, and 8 destroyers, a total of 6,945 men and 113,300 tons lost. The Germans lost 2,551 killed, 507 wounded, 1 battlecruiser, 1 pre-dreadnought, 4 light cruisers, and 5 torpedo boats for a total of 3,058 men and 62,300 tons lost. If we look at tonnage sunk and personnel killed, the British lost but if we look at strategic impact, which is the most important, and accomplishment of objectives, then neither side was victorious. And until the advent of the aircraft carrier in like 1925, naval battles will all be like Jutland.

[Arengin Union]

There will be blood.

Of course there will. That is a natural part of warfare. However, with current naval technology, every battle will be like Jutland: indecisive and costly. The objective of your navy would be to gain control of the seas, as would be mine. Neither fleet could accomplish that as the range and armor protection of modern warships prevent. One need only look at Jutland, where the British Grand Fleet of 151 ships fought the German Fleet of 99 vessels. The British lost 6,094 sailors killed, 674 wounded, and 177 captured, 3 battlecruisers, 3 armored cruisers, and 8 destroyers, a total of 6,945 men and 113,300 tons lost. The Germans lost 2,551 killed, 507 wounded, 1 battlecruiser, 1 pre-dreadnought, 4 light cruisers, and 5 torpedo boats for a total of 3,058 men and 62,300 tons lost. If we look at tonnage sunk and personnel killed, the British lost but if we look at strategic impact, which is the most important, and accomplishment of objectives, then neither side was victorious. And until the advent of the aircraft carrier in like 1925, naval battles will all be like Jutland.

Yes. But I suppose it's the cost.

[Eodor]

There will be blood.

Of course there will. That is a natural part of warfare. However, with current naval technology, every battle will be like Jutland: indecisive and costly. The objective of your navy would be to gain control of the seas, as would be mine. Neither fleet could accomplish that as the range and armor protection of modern warships prevent. One need only look at Jutland, where the British Grand Fleet of 151 ships fought the German Fleet of 99 vessels. The British lost 6,094 sailors killed, 674 wounded, and 177 captured, 3 battlecruisers, 3 armored cruisers, and 8 destroyers, a total of 6,945 men and 113,300 tons lost. The Germans lost 2,551 killed, 507 wounded, 1 battlecruiser, 1 pre-dreadnought, 4 light cruisers, and 5 torpedo boats for a total of 3,058 men and 62,300 tons lost. If we look at tonnage sunk and personnel killed, the British lost but if we look at strategic impact, which is the most important, and accomplishment of objectives, then neither side was victorious. And until the advent of the aircraft carrier in like 1925, naval battles will all be like Jutland.

But the Battle of Jutland was decisive. The German High Seas fleet never left port after that due to the threat of the British sinking their ships, Britain could afford to rebuild them the Germans couldn't.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Of course there will. That is a natural part of warfare. However, with current naval technology, every battle will be like Jutland: indecisive and costly. The objective of your navy would be to gain control of the seas, as would be mine. Neither fleet could accomplish that as the range and armor protection of modern warships prevent. One need only look at Jutland, where the British Grand Fleet of 151 ships fought the German Fleet of 99 vessels. The British lost 6,094 sailors killed, 674 wounded, and 177 captured, 3 battlecruisers, 3 armored cruisers, and 8 destroyers, a total of 6,945 men and 113,300 tons lost. The Germans lost 2,551 killed, 507 wounded, 1 battlecruiser, 1 pre-dreadnought, 4 light cruisers, and 5 torpedo boats for a total of 3,058 men and 62,300 tons lost. If we look at tonnage sunk and personnel killed, the British lost but if we look at strategic impact, which is the most important, and accomplishment of objectives, then neither side was victorious. And until the advent of the aircraft carrier in like 1925, naval battles will all be like Jutland.

But the Battle of Jutland was decisive. The German High Seas fleet never left port after that due to the threat of the British sinking their ships, Britain could afford to rebuild them the Germans couldn't.

No. It was not. The OBJECTIVE of the British Grand Fleet was to DESTROY the German High Seas Fleet. They failed and actually lost more ships than the Germans in greater tonnage. The German High Seas Fleet had the objective of destroying the British Grand Fleet. They failed. It was indecisive as NEITHER fleet achieved their objectives. If anything, the Germans won because they denied the British any future opportunity to accomplish their mission.

[Skarten]

But the Battle of Jutland was decisive. The German High Seas fleet never left port after that due to the threat of the British sinking their ships, Britain could afford to rebuild them the Germans couldn't.

No. It was not. The OBJECTIVE of the British Grand Fleet was to DESTROY the German High Seas Fleet. They failed and actually lost more ships than the Germans in greater tonnage. The German High Seas Fleet had the objective of destroying the British Grand Fleet. They failed. It was indecisive as NEITHER fleet achieved their objectives. If anything, the Germans won because they denied the British any future opportunity to accomplish their mission.

Blah Blah Blah.


If you forgot, Our Land Forces are still better skilled than yours.

Good luck winning a war by staying on my damn litoral like a idiot just awaiting.


We can push you back, and we will win after some time.

Warships aren't that great.

[Arengin Union]

No. It was not. The OBJECTIVE of the British Grand Fleet was to DESTROY the German High Seas Fleet. They failed and actually lost more ships than the Germans in greater tonnage. The German High Seas Fleet had the objective of destroying the British Grand Fleet. They failed. It was indecisive as NEITHER fleet achieved their objectives. If anything, the Germans won because they denied the British any future opportunity to accomplish their mission.

Blah Blah Blah.


If you forgot, Our Land Forces are still better skilled than yours.

Good luck winning a war by staying on my damn litoral like a idiot just awaiting.


We can push you back, and we will win after some time.

Warships aren't that great.

Thank you Skarten. Slav brother. Im sending you military supplies so enjoy. Expect at least a shipment by land and sea every week free of charge.

[Skarten]

Blah Blah Blah.


If you forgot, Our Land Forces are still better skilled than yours.

Good luck winning a war by staying on my damn litoral like a idiot just awaiting.


We can push you back, and we will win after some time.

Warships aren't that great.

Thank you Skarten. Slav brother. Im sending you military supplies so enjoy. Expect at least a shipment by land and sea every week free of charge.

why?

He declared war?

if yes, Big bertha will Crush him!

(Just to say What big bertha Is,

GO GOOGLE BIG BERTHA HOWITZER YOUR LAZY *SS)

[Arengin Union]

Thank you Skarten. Slav brother. Im sending you military supplies so enjoy. Expect at least a shipment by land and sea every week free of charge.

why?

He declared war?

if yes, Big bertha will Crush him!

(Just to say What big bertha Is,

GO GOOGLE BIG BERTHA HOWITZER YOUR LAZY *SS)

no but I'm sending it in advance to keep you armed if anything happens. For now we just build and wait.

[Skarten]

why?

He declared war?

if yes, Big bertha will Crush him!

(Just to say What big bertha Is,

GO GOOGLE BIG BERTHA HOWITZER YOUR LAZY *SS)

no but I'm sending it in advance to keep you armed if anything happens. For now we just build and wait.

I'll Start developing the U-Boat

Posting as soon as i can

[Arengin Union]

no but I'm sending it in advance to keep you armed if anything happens. For now we just build and wait.

I'll Start developing the U-Boat

Posting as soon as i can

Good good.

[Zjaum]

I'm back.

[Arengin Union]

I'm back.

Nice.

[Norcourt]

Don't know much about this, Arenginian-Manticoran war, but i seem to favor the Manticorans...

[Arengin Union]

Don't know much about this, Arenginian-Manticoran war, but i seem to favor the Manticorans...

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! You were supposed to bring balance to the world not leave it in darkness!!!