1870-1920 Era War: Lockin' up (Continue to New Thread)

[Cesopium]

Which portions of Tamir have been taken and which are disupted?

[The Traansval]

Which portions of Tamir have been taken and which are disupted?

Skarten agreed to Manticoran Control of everything south of Riverside, and Boer control of Riverside.

However, Boer and manticore troops have pushed further into and occupied Dartmor and Soltheim.

Currently, Boer and Manticore troops are moving into Skyhelm.

Skarten holds White Harbor and Redland, but claims all above Riverside

[Cesopium]

I can understand Manticore, but whats the cassus belli of the other nations invading the former lands?

[The Manticoran Empire]

I can understand Manticore, but whats the cassus belli of the other nations invading the former lands?

Rome invaded a small island that Transvaal had colonized.

[The Traansval]

I can understand Manticore, but whats the cassus belli of the other nations invading the former lands?

I was at war with Rome due to the fact that he invaded my Colony on Solitude Island

Skarten claims he is doing this to "protect" the citizens of tamir from "oppression". Even though neither i nor Manticore have ever "oppressed" anyone

[The Manticoran Empire]

I can understand Manticore, but whats the cassus belli of the other nations invading the former lands?

I was at war with Rome due to the fact that he invaded my Colony on Solitude Island

Skarten claims he is doing this to "protect" the citizens of tamir from "oppression". Even though neither i nor Manticore have ever "oppressed" anyone

Yeah. That always bothers me. Skarten and Arengin claim I'm going to "oppress" the Romans. There is nothing to support it.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

First problem is your territory. You need to claim from the map. A little more history would be helpful.
Your enemies don't exist in this RP. Mongolians and Russians don't exist either.
Year is 1896 so anything after that hasn't happened yet.

Shoot. I was really hoping that we could have a large-scale story using our NS nations in the Victorian Era instead of yet another PMV thread.

Why is this in the II Thread, then? Closed-universe stories not pertaining to NationStates go in "Portal to the Multi-verse". This Thread needs to be moved to its proper home.

[The Traansval]

First problem is your territory. You need to claim from the map. A little more history would be helpful.
Your enemies don't exist in this RP. Mongolians and Russians don't exist either.
Year is 1896 so anything after that hasn't happened yet.

Shoot. I was really hoping that we could have a large-scale story using our NS nations in the Victorian Era instead of yet another PMV thread.

Why is this in the II Thread, then? Closed-universe stories not pertaining to NationStates go in "Portal to the Multi-verse". This Thread needs to be moved to its proper home.

We're in way too deep to move it.

Also, you can create a back story for yourself. Its just you have to play with us in the year 1896. You can reference your Victorian Era background which you can write yourself. Have it be that you interacted with us, or made up nations back then.

We are very lax.

[The Traansval]

First problem is your territory. You need to claim from the map. A little more history would be helpful.
Your enemies don't exist in this RP. Mongolians and Russians don't exist either.
Year is 1896 so anything after that hasn't happened yet.

Shoot. I was really hoping that we could have a large-scale story using our NS nations in the Victorian Era instead of yet another PMV thread.

Why is this in the II Thread, then? Closed-universe stories not pertaining to NationStates go in "Portal to the Multi-verse". This Thread needs to be moved to its proper home.

Also, this isn't really "Closed Universe". This is our NS nations, or a nations we made up, in the past.

[The Traansval]

You know Ceso, i know we kinda kicked you out of the European Isles, but you can still do stuff with us...

NCSU is merging the East Imperium (Which you are a member of) with the GDU. So you can get big allies like Arengin, Skarten, Wargloria, Aclus...

[Rannoria]

STATE OF TURTLESHROOM, IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY

NATION INFORMATION

Nation name: Kingdom of the United Turtles, Mushrooms, and Men of TurtleShroom

National goals: Trade, friendship, diplonacy

Nation's Leader: Queen Mary Agnesyevna Klyde (Russian naming convention subject to change based on accuracy, adjusted for matriarchial society of turtles) (turtle), King Alexander Ronald Nebbie (mushroom)

National Government: Theodemocratic constitutional monarchy

National history: TurtleShroom was founded in 1796 AD through the union of a human Russian colony (in name only, it also had a significant English/Anglo-Saxxon minority) and the non-human Myrtled and Pawleed Khanates. The first settlers of what would become TurtleShroom arrived shortly after 1600 AD, at the height of the Time of Troubles in Russia. These settlers were Protestant heretics that supported Tsar False Dmitry I in the Time of Troubles, whose escape he financed.

Territory: Same as modern day, except that northwest portion did not exist

Language: English (official) and Russian (widely spoken minority)

National Religion: Baptist Christianity

National Culture/Identity: In the twentieth century, TS would undergo a rapid cultural shift from early American culture and Russian culture to Southeastern USA culture (both antebellum and post-bellum). However, TS has always maintained, and continues to maintain, a very much Russian and Slavic political climate of strongmen and an expectation of the status quo.

National Passtime: Going to church, playing together, agriculture.

National holiday: October 13th (Founders' Day), religious holidays

Nation's Population: Three hundred million

Allies: Looking for some

Enemies: Mackonia, raiders

Political issues: In this time period, TS' Russian ties and culture are starting to sunset. TS began receiving its first Confederate asylum seekers. Beginning shortly after 1900 AD, this trickle would become a storm, as rich CSA investors set up schools in every corner of the state, both ending TS' illiteracy and Russia-oriented culture (outside of politics), and imparting their values and dialect on TS. This fundamental shift would completely drive both Russian accents and Russian culture out of the country by 1920 AD. Control the children, control the culture. In addition, the first pangs of the Industrial Revolution would finally reach the country, with the large-scale advent of the railroad and factories by 1895 AD. TS would enter its own version of the Gilded Age in the 1920s AD, but it would never leave. The Industrial Revolution would totally be cemented by 1920 AD, but it was not until 1933 AD, under the extensive reforms of the Fascist Servant Party, that TS was finally brought out of the nineteenth century (and earlier) and incorporated into a modern state. The TS military would use medieval Russian and Mongolian tactics until TS' participation in the Russian Civil War. After that, the miltiary would be reorganized entirely

Chance of revolt: Essentially impossible.

Greatest Victory: None in this time period. TS would not see armed conflict until its aid in the Russian Civil War.

Most Embarrassing Defeat: See above.

MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Tarkhan (General) Boris Dooley (a mushroom)

Military strength: Five hundred thousand levies (mostly infantry of all three species), twenty five thousand active human calvarymen, ten thousand non-human infantrymen. TurtleShroom would only mobilize its full strength in the event of an invasion. Most of the thirty five thousand active soldiers in this time period were actually used for engineering and construction at home. Aside from beating back raiders, bandits, gang posses, train robbers, and general rebel troublemakers, TS would not see actual combat until the Russian Civil War.

List artillery, if any: Large cast-bronze cannons based on medieval models, the Dardenelles Cannon, and siege engines

INFANTRY

Almost all humans in the military in this time period were calvarymen. As needed, they would dismount from their horse and serve as normal infantry. Non-humans were carried in supply wagons by mules and provided battlefield medicine,

Primary Weapon: Confederate Springfield Model 1863 Musket-Rifle (infantry)

Secondary Weapon: Double-barreled shotgun (infantry)

Melee Weapon: Bayonet (official, they also used the rifles as clubs)

Uniform: (I will eventually draw it) Pre-Tsar Peter Streltsy uniforms, but colored khaki and with a distinctive harvest-gold colored sask worn from the shoulder to the hip for

Pack gear: Rations, ammunition, Bible or religious text, light blanket for desert nights, weaponry, with backpack

Greatest Strengths: Mongol-style rapid warfare on horseback, experts at horseback archery, can dismount and use their guns (above) as normal infantrymen, world-class discipline and morale

Greatest Weaknesses: [blocktext]

• Archaic structure
• Centuries old tactics
• Almost entirely defensive and reliant on home terrain and what would later be called guerilla warfare
• Must import iron and therefore relies on copper, bronze, tin, etc.
• Technologically backward, small in size
• Non-human soldiers must be transported by horse-drawn supply wagon
• Artillery consists of crude, pre-medieval copper and bronze cannons
• Continued reliance on siege engines

Tactics: Irregular, skirmish-based, Mongol-style warfare, armed archers on horseback that dismount and serve as infantry (all calvaryman had guns as well as crossbows)

Specialty: Attrition, defensive warfare, irregular warfare, guerilla warfare

CALVARY

Almost all human soldiers were calvarymen. They had the same guns on their person as infantrymen, and could use them on horseback, but they preferred Mongol crossbows on horseback and guns as infantry. Non-human infantry rode on supply wagons pulled by mules.

[*]Primary Weapon:[/b] Advanced Mongolian crossbow, generally good at penetrating infantrymen armor

Secondary Weapon: Same weaponry as infantry (above), calvarymen will dismount

Melee Weapon: Bayonette on the gun, gun as club

Uniform: Same as infantry

Pack gear: Same as infantry, but with provisions for the horse, horse has saddlebags and rider has a backpack

Greatest Strengths: See above

Greatest Weaknesses: See above

Tactics: See above

Specialty: See above

ARTILLERY

Cannon Types: Crude, medieval copper and bronze cannons. For homeland defense, TS cities were equipped with Dardanelles Cannon artillery (and there were two for mobile use)

Mortar Types: Dardanelle Cannons used twenty-five inch gunpowder-laced cannonballs that exploded on impact, could resort to stone balls

Rockets: Y, congreve rockets

Howitzers: N/A

Shell types: Explosive cannonballs, siege engine armanents (rocks, bombs, etc.)

Men per artillery crew: A dozen to many dozens, a hundred or more for the Dardanelles Cannon

Mules/Horses: Mules

1. Change your "Territory". By that, i mean choose one or more Territories on our Map.
https://i.imgur.com/mowhWXG.png

2. This is more of a Recommendation, the current year is 1896. We have Tanks, Armored Cars, Bolt Action Rifle, Small amounts of early Semi-Automatics used by Elite Troops, and smokeless powder. Its not recommended using a 1860 Musket.

3. No non-human species, you can keep the whole Mushroom and Turtle thing, but turn it into a thing with Tribals rather than Humanoid-Mushroom things.

4. This is completely different from the real world. There is no United States or Russia. There is Arengin, who is pretty much Tsarist Russia, and me(I'm pretty much the United States)

Also, sorry if the way i wrote this sounded demanding, I'm just laying down the terms for me to be able to accept this.

Adding on that.

300 MILLION PEOPLE! Lower that tremendously.

[Rannoria]

Guys, in 41 more pages, we'll hit OOC 2.

I still make that OOC, but the continuation thread will be made by someone else.

[Rannoria]

So, uh, it's gonna be a long way until we vote on a new OP, but.

Who would like to nominate themselves? Or at least who plans to?

[The Traansval]

Guys, in 41 more pages, we'll hit OOC 2.

I still make that OOC, but the continuation thread will be made by someone else.

Wait, there is a cap on how many pages we can have?

[The Traansval]

So, uh, it's gonna be a long way until we vote on a new OP, but.

Who would like to nominate themselves? Or at least who plans to?

Do i even have to say it

[Rannoria]

South Eaka has capitulated.

[Rannoria]

Guys, in 41 more pages, we'll hit OOC 2.

I still make that OOC, but the continuation thread will be made by someone else.

Wait, there is a cap on how many pages we can have?

Duh. You didn't know?

The cap is 500, but they usually lock the thread a bit earlier or later.

BUT NOTE, I WILL MAKE THE NEXT OOC. THE OOC FOR THE 1870-1920 ERA WAR THREAD.

The continuation thread (still part of our canon universe) will be in a different era and stuff.

[The Traansval]

On this day, January 13th, 2017, the Nation of South Eaka officially Capitulates to inner turmoil within the empire.

Their government has collapsed, and their land is now unclaimed, leaving behind the Eakan and Asgeirrian Infrastructure and Citizens in its wake.

[The Traansval]

Wait, there is a cap on how many pages we can have?

Duh. You didn't know?

The cap is 500, but they usually lock the thread a bit earlier or later.

BUT NOTE, I WILL MAKE THE NEXT OOC. THE OOC FOR THE 1870-1920 ERA WAR THREAD.

The continuation thread (still part of our canon universe) will be in a different era and stuff.

So, wait, they admins themselves have to lock it?

[Rannoria]

Duh. You didn't know?

The cap is 500, but they usually lock the thread a bit earlier or later.

BUT NOTE, I WILL MAKE THE NEXT OOC. THE OOC FOR THE 1870-1920 ERA WAR THREAD.

The continuation thread (still part of our canon universe) will be in a different era and stuff.

So, wait, they admins themselves have to lock it?

yea

[Rannoria]

On this day, January 13th, 2017, the Nation of South Eaka officially Capitulates to inner turmoil within the empire.

Their government has collapsed, and their land is now unclaimed, leaving behind the Eakan and Asgeirrian Infrastructure and Citizens in its wake.

And remember.


THESE BUCKOS WILL NOT JUST LET YOU IN THEIR LANDS! MAKE IT REALISTIC! IT TOOK ME A GRUELING MINI-WAR TO TAKE BARRUM!

[Rannoria]

On this day, January 13th, 2017, the Nation of South Eaka officially Capitulates to inner turmoil within the empire.

Their government has collapsed, and their land is now unclaimed, leaving behind the Eakan and Asgeirrian Infrastructure and Citizens in its wake.

And remember.


THESE BUCKOS WILL NOT JUST LET YOU IN THEIR LANDS! MAKE IT REALISTIC! IT TOOK ME A GRUELING MINI-WAR TO TAKE BARRUM!

Unless you were Asgeirrian or South Eakan allies who they trusted you, then this rule is exempt.

[Norcourt]

What ever happened to Conoga? He applied at page 4. And The United Tribes of Sacheyenya?

[Rannoria]

What ever happened to Conoga? He applied at page 4. And The United Tribes of Sacheyenya?

They both never fixed their apps, and so they got the boot.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Seriously, Wargloria? You can't even spell Panzerkampfwagen? What the hell is this?

Look Manticore, spelling mistakes happen, I forgot how to spell

Why can't you just go "Dude, you spelled Panzerkampfwagen wrong", instead of going all hate, you remind me too much of my bloody sister