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Postby Rannoria » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:48 am

New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:
Rannoria wrote:Yeah, that's very true. Traansval's been very active since day one, and the unexplained period of silence that ended brought him back to be active yet again.

Sorry mon, but it's kind of logical.


But then, there's ME....

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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:51 am

I think we can all agree if this was a show like Game of Thrones, Manticore would be the villain.

C'mon

They are a relatively big empire that doesn't give a crap to anyone and wants to take over the world.

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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:55 am

I so much want to use Sabaton's music in the war.

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:03 am

Skarten wrote:I think we can all agree if this was a show like Game of Thrones, Manticore would be the villain.

C'mon

They are a relatively big empire that doesn't give a crap to anyone and wants to take over the world.


At the same time however, there is such a romanticism that can not really be described shortly, that occurs in such an empire, than one can only love.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:04 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:I think we can all agree if this was a show like Game of Thrones, Manticore would be the villain.

C'mon

They are a relatively big empire that doesn't give a crap to anyone and wants to take over the world.


At the same time however, there is such a romanticism that can not really be described shortly, that occurs in such an empire, than one can only love.

Well.
But anyway
If Manticore doesn't consider me a threat, then why the hell Does It's like i'm their Top 1 Enemy?

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:09 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
At the same time however, there is such a romanticism that can not really be described shortly, that occurs in such an empire, than one can only love.

Well.
But anyway
If Manticore doesn't consider me a threat, then why the hell Does It's like i'm their Top 1 Enemy?


Well you are near an empire, I'd imagine you'd probably know what the consequences of that is.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:13 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:Well.
But anyway
If Manticore doesn't consider me a threat, then why the hell Does It's like i'm their Top 1 Enemy?


Well you are near an empire, I'd imagine you'd probably know what the consequences of that is.

I do.
But if they take me down, it's gonna be on a fire and they are going with me.


Also

If the alliance wins The World war, it will probably annex most of the world and weaken the rest.

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:15 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
Well you are near an empire, I'd imagine you'd probably know what the consequences of that is.

I do.
But if they take me down, it's gonna be on a fire and they are going with me.


Also

If the alliance wins The World war, it will probably annex most of the world and weaken the rest.


As I am part of the Alliance I am obliged to fight you. Three nations will be against you (maybe even four, TTI), I don't see how you'd do anything of much effect.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:19 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:I do.
But if they take me down, it's gonna be on a fire and they are going with me.


Also

If the alliance wins The World war, it will probably annex most of the world and weaken the rest.


As I am part of the Alliance I am obliged to fight you. Three nations will be against you (maybe even four, TTI), I don't see how you'd do anything of much effect.


Well

Then there is a good chance of having in my side (BECAUSE YOU INVADED ME MANTICORE)
Arenging,Wargloria,Halium,Aclus,Maybe NSCU,And possibly Crimetropolis
But that's just if a World-Wide War happens.
By that i mean if the Alliance attacks me.

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:25 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
As I am part of the Alliance I am obliged to fight you. Three nations will be against you (maybe even four, TTI), I don't see how you'd do anything of much effect.


Well

Then there is a good chance of having in my side (BECAUSE YOU INVADED ME MANTICORE)
Arenging,Wargloria,Halium,Aclus,Maybe NSCU,And possibly Crimetropolis
But that's just if a World-Wide War happens.
By that i mean if the Alliance attacks me.


Either way, the Alliance shall prevail.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:28 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Well

Then there is a good chance of having in my side (BECAUSE YOU INVADED ME MANTICORE)
Arenging,Wargloria,Halium,Aclus,Maybe NSCU,And possibly Crimetropolis
But that's just if a World-Wide War happens.
By that i mean if the Alliance attacks me.


Either way, the Alliance shall prevail.

Nah.
You are the villains.

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:30 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
Either way, the Alliance shall prevail.

Nah.
You are the villains.


Even the "villains" can win sometimes. The GDU is weak, and welcomes small weak and poor nations into their group, and leans on the ideals of opposing views, such as Communism and Fascism. It will never last.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:32 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:Nah.
You are the villains.


Even the "villains" can win sometimes. The GDU is weak, and welcomes small weak and poor nations into their group, and leans on the ideals of opposing views, such as Communism and Fascism. It will never last.

Allies,WW2.

*boom*

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Postby Norcourt » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:37 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
Even the "villains" can win sometimes. The GDU is weak, and welcomes small weak and poor nations into their group, and leans on the ideals of opposing views, such as Communism and Fascism. It will never last.

Allies,WW2.

*boom*


You make it seem as if we are the villains. And then you point out World War 2, where in which the "allies" fought against Nazi Germany a fascist state (a fascist state who couldn't maintain a relationship with the USSR, thus eventually attacking their communist allies) . There are no villainic nations in war, but individuals. (with few exceptions however, Assyrians, Phoenicians, etc)
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:58 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:Allies,WW2.

*boom*


You make it seem as if we are the villains. And then you point out World War 2, where in which the "allies" fought against Nazi Germany a fascist state (a fascist state who couldn't maintain a relationship with the USSR, thus eventually attacking their communist allies) . There are no villainic nations in war, but individuals. (with few exceptions however, Assyrians, Phoenicians, etc)


*places knife on your throat* Lad, I hate to tell you dis, but my form of communism is a bit, contradictory. To be blunt, I am similar to Wargloria, except, we have capitalism in our communism, and we label that communism. So before you say anything about opposing views, remember this, I have capitalism.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:32 am

Skarten wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
As I am part of the Alliance I am obliged to fight you. Three nations will be against you (maybe even four, TTI), I don't see how you'd do anything of much effect.


Well

Then there is a good chance of having in my side (BECAUSE YOU INVADED ME MANTICORE)
Arenging,Wargloria,Halium,Aclus,Maybe NSCU,And possibly Crimetropolis
But that's just if a World-Wide War happens.
By that i mean if the Alliance attacks me.

First of all, Skarten I didn't invade you.
Second, the Alliance and VDU are not getting involved. You want a war Skarten? You'll start it.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:48 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Well

Then there is a good chance of having in my side (BECAUSE YOU INVADED ME MANTICORE)
Arenging,Wargloria,Halium,Aclus,Maybe NSCU,And possibly Crimetropolis
But that's just if a World-Wide War happens.
By that i mean if the Alliance attacks me.

First of all, Skarten I didn't invade you.
Second, the Alliance and VDU are not getting involved. You want a war Skarten? You'll start it.


You know Manticore, personally, the amount of care levels I have left about being cautious of war is quickly going down to 0%
And btw, I am not responsible for what my allies do, I am not their babysitter, this would all have been avoided if you people simply accepted that Wargloria wanted peace

And when you realise your mistake, your nation will burn, your people dead, your armies ruined, and if Wargloria must fall to accomplish such a task, so BE IT! If and when this war begins, every inch of land you take will be payed in the blood of 10 men, every meter, 100, every mile 1000!

And Remember these words when your doom begins.....if you cut off one head, 3 more shall take it's place, HAIL HY- I mean, Sieg Heil Viktoria to Wargloria, ja, that's what I meant......
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Postby Aclus » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:45 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:Nah.
You are the villains.


Even the "villains" can win sometimes. The GDU is weak, and welcomes small weak and poor nations into their group, and leans on the ideals of opposing views, such as Communism and Fascism. It will never last.

Halt right there ya filthy imperial baboon, the GDU accepts diversity of the nations in it, if their government's work well for their people there is no reason to change their ideals and install different ones, "Alliance of Republican Nations", you are all power hungry Imperials. TTI is excluded from my statement for he/she is an ally of Aclus
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:53 am

Norcourt wrote:
Skarten wrote:Allies,WW2.

*boom*


You make it seem as if we are the villains. And then you point out World War 2, where in which the "allies" fought against Nazi Germany a fascist state (a fascist state who couldn't maintain a relationship with the USSR, thus eventually attacking their communist allies) . There are no villainic nations in war, but individuals. (with few exceptions however, Assyrians, Phoenicians, etc)


I can't believe that your are comparing every single bit of Wargloria, and suspecting that every single bit of it is Nazi Germany, here are some differences you damn Imperialistic, false republic bastard

1. Warglorian Regime is not racist. With the exception of the Himmler Regime (Himmler being the ONLY Rising Sun controlled politician to become Führer), most people in Wargloria had equal civil rights, whether you be Foreign or Native, as long as you are loyal to Wargloria

2. Wargloria is not interested in backstabbing allies. Not really need for any explanation, besides that as long as these allies are reliable, Wargloria permits

3. Wargloria's leaders are not idiots. Though you might think so, there is a strict background and info check by a group known as the "Political Testing Agency", which tests each candidate for Führer with different tests to see that the next leader is at the very least a stable and reliable one (Himmler, to be fair, did technically pass this, as he did in fact have a high IQ, and he never did anything to rash that would hurt Wargloria internally, I mean besides the Warmonger and racism, but you know, War, we Glory it!)
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Postby Rannoria » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:10 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Norcourt wrote:
You make it seem as if we are the villains. And then you point out World War 2, where in which the "allies" fought against Nazi Germany a fascist state (a fascist state who couldn't maintain a relationship with the USSR, thus eventually attacking their communist allies) . There are no villainic nations in war, but individuals. (with few exceptions however, Assyrians, Phoenicians, etc)

1. Warglorian Regime is not racist. With the exception of the Himmler Regime (Himmler being the ONLY Rising Sun controlled politician to become Führer), most people in Wargloria had equal civil rights, whether you be Foreign or Native, as long as you are loyal to Wargloria

Lol yet Klaus ordered the aid of genociding Maxtopians?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:07 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:First of all, Skarten I didn't invade you.
Second, the Alliance and VDU are not getting involved. You want a war Skarten? You'll start it.


You know Manticore, personally, the amount of care levels I have left about being cautious of war is quickly going down to 0%
And btw, I am not responsible for what my allies do, I am not their babysitter, this would all have been avoided if you people simply accepted that Wargloria wanted peace

And when you realise your mistake, your nation will burn, your people dead, your armies ruined, and if Wargloria must fall to accomplish such a task, so BE IT! If and when this war begins, every inch of land you take will be payed in the blood of 10 men, every meter, 100, every mile 1000!

And Remember these words when your doom begins.....if you cut off one head, 3 more shall take it's place, HAIL HY- I mean, Sieg Heil Viktoria to Wargloria, ja, that's what I meant......

Oh I'm positively quaking with fear.[/sarcasm] Give me a break.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:09 am

Seriously, Wargloria? You can't even spell Panzerkampfwagen? What the hell is this?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:15 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:(Horribly outnumbered and outgunned)


I see that your horribly unhealthy and very annoying obsession with:
1. Continuously posting OOC in IC

and

2. Showing off and telling your enemies of how your forces are superior in every way in the current situation, oh, how so very predictable.

1. While not unhealthy, I can see how it can be annoying.

2. Is there supposed to be a point here? Explaining that I have 539,000 men to Skarten's 100,000 and that I have 3,500 tanks to his roughly 900 and that I have several orders of magnitude more armored cars and transport trucks than he does is not showing off. It is a simple statement and, since you lot like to say how "inferior" I am every chance you get, I am entitled to refute your statements. The simple fact is not one single GDU member has enough mechanization to fight a modern land war, enough airships to fight an air war, or enough naval ships to fight a naval war. This isn't me making stuff up. This is fact. Your armies are largely horse drawn or foot mobile, making them slow and extremely vulnerable. Your supply lines would be immense, so large and long that even a blind man could drop a bomb on them. You may have a larger quantity of men but it hardly makes up for your lack of mobility. And mobility wins wars.
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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:02 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
I see that your horribly unhealthy and very annoying obsession with:
1. Continuously posting OOC in IC

and

2. Showing off and telling your enemies of how your forces are superior in every way in the current situation, oh, how so very predictable.

1. While not unhealthy, I can see how it can be annoying.

2. Is there supposed to be a point here? Explaining that I have 539,000 men to Skarten's 100,000 and that I have 3,500 tanks to his roughly 900 and that I have several orders of magnitude more armored cars and transport trucks than he does is not showing off. It is a simple statement and, since you lot like to say how "inferior" I am every chance you get, I am entitled to refute your statements. The simple fact is not one single GDU member has enough mechanization to fight a modern land war, enough airships to fight an air war, or enough naval ships to fight a naval war. This isn't me making stuff up. This is fact. Your armies are largely horse drawn or foot mobile, making them slow and extremely vulnerable. Your supply lines would be immense, so large and long that even a blind man could drop a bomb on them. You may have a larger quantity of men but it hardly makes up for your lack of mobility. And mobility wins wars.

Coff coff *Rússia,Ww2* coff coff.

Also
Your breaking da rules. More than the max permitted.
I know because i based my numbers on the max.500 thousand would be half of your army..

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Postby Skarten » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:40 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Halium wrote:
wait. People have tanks? Tanks weren't developed until at least four years after this, and even then, they were really weak


To follow up my other post responding to this, here are the:

Official Rules on Tanks and other Armored Vehicles



1. A Tank must not have more armor than 2 1/2 inches (See point 10)

2. A Armored Car must not have armor thicker than 3/4 inches

3. The Majority of your Tanks must use machine guns, a small portion can use small Explosive Guns (See point 9)

4. Self Propelled Artillery is allowed, but must be used for Indirect Fire Purposed Only.

5. A Armored Car cannot be faster than 30 mph TOP SPEED

6. A Tank cannot be faster than 8 MPH if considered a Heavy Tank, 15 MPH if considered a Medium Tank, or 20 MPH if considered a Light Tank.

7. You can only have a max limit of 5,000 Armored Cars (NOTE: Cars such as my BAC-3 Transports do not factor in, because they are used for Transport not Combat)

8. You can only have a max limit of 800 Heavy Tanks, 1,500 Medium Tank's, 2,250 Light Tanks.

9. Of your nations Medium Tanks, only 2% can use Explosive Guns (An Explosive Gun will be categorized as anything that fired a projectile whose sole purpose is to explode. Incendiary Bullets are exempt from this). 15% of your Heavy Tanks can use Explosive Guns. 1% of your Light Tanks can use Explosive Guns.

10. Tanks will be categorized by these attributed:
Heavy Tank: Must have armor between 1 3/4 and 2 1/2. 4-6 Guns or Turrents.

Medium Tank: Must have Armor between 1 and 1 1/2. 2-3 Guns or Turrents.

Light Tank: Armor between 0 and 3/4. One Main Gun or Turrent.

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