Chosanese war (OOC)

[Zhouran]

Me and Singy have a wasted fleet right now

Ayyy, 500 frigates?

asigna is still fooked tho m8

Nuclear or conventional ICBMs, Asigna's still gonna get fucked sideways.

Manila and Zamboanga are gonna turn into seas of destruction.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yeah, i could work with this. (No matter how impractical the nature of the attack would be)

Yes. I love this idea.

I should mention that because Ausitoria won't know that they're conventional, they'll still try to protect Asigna with their ballistic missile defence systems. We should probably work out roughly how effective that is likely to be, and I'm not an expert in that area, so... any experts in the house?

Yes.

Try 0% chance.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I should mention that because Ausitoria won't know that they're conventional, they'll still try to protect Asigna with their ballistic missile defence systems. We should probably work out roughly how effective that is likely to be, and I'm not an expert in that area, so... any experts in the house?

Yes.

Try 0% chance.

Honestly Paddy, I haven't yet told you what we're talking about.

We're talking about something similar to a functional strategic defence initiative.

Now, if you're an expert, what you need to do is not just say "Oh, 0%/20%/90%" or whatever, but rather, to ask important leading questions to allow you to determine how effectively it works.

I don't know what the questions should be, but I imagine you'd also need to know how many satellites are involved, what the tracking facilities are, etc.?

[Sharko Federation]

Of course, it will expend their ICBM force given that it is thousands of missiles. Me and PAC will still be able to counter tenfold.

"PAC"

> Implying im heping you

nnnnnnoooooooooppppppppeeeeeeeeee!

kek

can I murder Asigna in the name of nihon

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes.

Try 0% chance.

Honestly Paddy, I haven't yet told you what we're talking about.

We're talking about something similar to a functional strategic defence initiative.

Now, if you're an expert, what you need to do is not just say "Oh, 0%/20%/90%" or whatever, but rather, to ask important leading questions to allow you to determine how effectively it works.

I don't know what the questions should be, but I imagine you'd also need to know how many satellites are involved, what the tracking facilities are, etc.?

None of it matters.

SLBM going Mach 24 launched from <500miles will impact the target area in literally minutes from launch. By the time you actually detect the missiles, radio command saying "holyfuckingshit were under attack", and alert the nearest defensive command, the guys scrambling from their bunks to man the fire control systems will be shadowed before they can blink.

It's the reason why "Alpha" strikes using SLBM's are so damn scary and work really, really well as a nuclear deterrent.

[New Chilokver]

If you guys are going to discuss an attack on Asigna, start a new thread. This one is for the attack on Choson.

[New Aeyariss]

If you guys are going to discuss an attack on Asigna, start a new thread. This one is for the attack on Choson.

I will start one tomorrow. Await it please.

[Sharko Federation]

If you guys are going to discuss an attack on Asigna, start a new thread. This one is for the attack on Choson.

I will start one tomorrow. Await it please.

May I participate in the attack on the Bayan?

[New Aeyariss]

A slight calculation.

POFite / Shazite navy fired from around 402 km.

Each SLBM moves with around 29 401 km/h.

As such from classic formula taught in junior high school about calculating speed, distance and time, Asigna has 49 seconds until the missile impact (forgive me if I mistaken any data).

Ausitorians won't do a thing in such time. Before the entire infrastructure will be activated, trajectory calculated, ABMs fueled and prepared, Asigna would be emitting a warm glow... if we hadn't agreed on them being conventional .

[Novaya Equestria]

Your post doesn't make sense, Arstotzka. The Novayan RDPR just up guards (to protect the Novayan Red Cross personnel), Novayan Red Cross personnel, and humanitarian supplies by air, not by sea. Read this post again, mon. Ten flights of C-130s were divided into two groups: Novayan Emergency Humanitarian Group, West Chosan and Novayan Emergency Humanitarian Group, East Chosan.

And you may retcon yer post, but please, contact the two Novayan EHGs if the planes were carrying guards, Red Cross personnel, and humanitarian supplies. I'm also allowing you to inspect, verify, and confirm that the planes were, indeed, carrying guards (to protect Red Cross personnel), Red Cross personnel, and humanitarian supplies.

[Novaya Equestria]

A slight calculation.

POFite / Shazite navy fired from around 402 km.

Each SLBM moves with around 29 401 km/h.

As such from classic formula taught in junior high school about calculating speed, distance and time, Asigna has 49 seconds until the missile impact (forgive me if I mistaken any data).

Ausitorians won't do a thing in such time. Before the entire infrastructure will be activated, trajectory calculated, ABMs fueled and prepared, Asigna would be emitting a warm glow... if we hadn't agreed on them being conventional .

May I ask if you don't do PMT RPs? Just wanting to check.

[National Koryo]

POFite / Shazite navy fired from around 402 km.

402 km from what? 402 km away from Philippine coast?

If so, then that's probably way too short-range for an ICBM/SLBM. Plus, 49 seconds would not be enough time for the ICBM/SLBM to separate its stages and warhead delivery bus, and arm the MIRVs.

- zhou

[Shazbotdom]

POFite / Shazite navy fired from around 402 km.

402 km from what? 402 km away from Philippine coast?

If so, then that's probably way too short-range for an ICBM/SLBM. Plus, 49 seconds would not be enough time for the ICBM/SLBM to separate its stages and warhead delivery bus, and arm the MIRVs.

- zhou

According to everything I've read, a SRBM's range is anywhere under 1,000 Miles. Making it feasible for it to be used from within the range that Paddy and I used them for.

Unless you can show anything that says otherwise.

[National Koryo]

According to everything I've read, a SRBM's range is anywhere under 1,000 Miles. Making it feasible for it to be used from within the range that Paddy and I used them for.

Unless you can show anything that says otherwise.

How far away from the Philippines was the SLBM launched from?

[Shazbotdom]

Paddy launched from roughly 450 Miles out, I launched from about 230 Miles out. On two different trajectories, as well.

[National Koryo]

Paddy launched from roughly 450 Miles out, I launched from about 230 Miles out.

The missiles you and Paddy launched where submarine-launched ballistic missiles, right? Was it a Trident SLBM?

Also, explain to me this "different trajectories"?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Paddy launched from roughly 450 Miles out, I launched from about 230 Miles out.

The missiles you and Paddy launched where submarine-launched ballistic missiles, right? Was it a Trident SLBM?

Also, explain to me this "different trajectories"?

It's pretty self explanatory, puppet.

[Paddy O Fernature]

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

[Shazbotdom]

Paddy launched from roughly 450 Miles out, I launched from about 230 Miles out.

The missiles you and Paddy launched where submarine-launched ballistic missiles, right? Was it a Trident SLBM?

Also, explain to me this "different trajectories"?

Yes. With the launch trajectory, the arc would add in a lot more distance. The complete arc would put the time from launch to impact at ~3 Minutes. Separation occurs at roughly 40 seconds before impact. More than enough time to make the arc, separate, and impact.

And "different trajectories" means from two different locations. Hell, I'm not even in the military and I understand that much.


BTW.
If you are going to try and use a puppet for a fact-finding mission to sniff out flaws in our logic to try and discredit our attack, try again. My subs went silent running right before, and just after, the lunch. They bottomed out and are awaiting further orders.

[Common Territories]

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

To be perfectly honest. People who hide behind a puppet account to interrogate or shit talk are cowards. Just my personal opinion, but felt like chiming in there's no reason to hide behind a puppet to ask for information.

[Paddy O Fernature]

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

To be perfectly honest. People who hide behind a puppet account to interrogate or shit talk are cowards. Just my personal opinion, but felt like chiming in there's no reason to hide behind a puppet to ask for information.

QFT.

[Zhouran]

It's pretty self explanatory, puppet.

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

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If you can't explain, then that means you don't know.

Depressed Trajectory SLBMs: A Technical Evaluation and Arms Control Possibilities

We find that current US and CIS SLBMs flown on depressed trajectories would have the capability to attack bomber bases at ranges of up to about 2,000 kilometers, and possibly at ranges up to 3,000 kilometers.

The most energy-efficient trajectory for flying a ballistic missile over a given range carries it high above the atmosphere; the maximum range for a given missile is achieved by traveling on such a trajectory. If a missile is flown over shorter ranges, the excess energy can be used to fly less energy-efficient trajectories, such as low-apogee or "depressed" trajectories. Missiles flown on a depressed trajectory (DT) can have significantly shorter flight paths, and therefore significantly shorter flight times, than those flown on a standard trajectory of the same range.

We will see that a Trident II SLBM on a depressed trajectory could travel 1,850 kilometers in roughly 7 minutes (rather than the 12.5 minute flight time on a standard trajectory), and could therefore reduce the survivability of a large fraction of the bomber forces that would not be vulnerable to attack by SLBMs on standard trajectories.

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

To be perfectly honest. People who hide behind a puppet account to interrogate or shit talk are cowards. Just my personal opinion, but felt like chiming in there's no reason to hide behind a puppet to ask for information.

K.

[Paddy O Fernature]

It's pretty self explanatory, puppet.

What's wrong Zhouran, cat got your tongue?

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If you can't explain, then that means you don't know.

Depressed Trajectory SLBMs: A Technical Evaluation and Arms Control Possibilities

We find that current US and CIS SLBMs flown on depressed trajectories would have the capability to attack bomber bases at ranges of up to about 2,000 kilometers, and possibly at ranges up to 3,000 kilometers.

The most energy-efficient trajectory for flying a ballistic missile over a given range carries it high above the atmosphere; the maximum range for a given missile is achieved by traveling on such a trajectory. If a missile is flown over shorter ranges, the excess energy can be used to fly less energy-efficient trajectories, such as low-apogee or "depressed" trajectories. Missiles flown on a depressed trajectory (DT) can have significantly shorter flight paths, and therefore significantly shorter flight times, than those flown on a standard trajectory of the same range.

We will see that a Trident II SLBM on a depressed trajectory could travel 1,850 kilometers in roughly 7 minutes (rather than the 12.5 minute flight time on a standard trajectory), and could therefore reduce the survivability of a large fraction of the bomber forces that would not be vulnerable to attack by SLBMs on standard trajectories.

To be perfectly honest. People who hide behind a puppet account to interrogate or shit talk are cowards. Just my personal opinion, but felt like chiming in there's no reason to hide behind a puppet to ask for information.

K.

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Really failing to see how this disproves anything I, or Shaz, has already said.

[Shazbotdom]

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If you can't explain, then that means you don't know.

Depressed Trajectory SLBMs: A Technical Evaluation and Arms Control Possibilities



K.

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Really failing to see how this disproves anything I, or Shaz, has already said.

Because it doesn't?

[Paddy O Fernature]

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Really failing to see how this disproves anything I, or Shaz, has already said.

Because it doesn't?

Sure looks that way.