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War of North Gael [OOC, TWI]

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War of North Gael [OOC, TWI]

Postby Ostehaar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:07 pm

New RP idea since the initial one is impossible: viewtopic.php?p=29907500#p29907500




This is an OOC thread for a 1970's war RP. Posting in this OOC thread is open for TWI members only. Please don't post here if you are not a TWI member.

General background story

Oster people call the area west of Ostehaar "the land beyond the union" (or imer-ast darna in Oster). It is an area with native Oster communities that refused to be a part of the old Kingdom of Ostehaar, back a few centuries before present times. They remained a rather isolated collection of town and villages, until occupied by the British during the 18th century.

By the early 20th century the British had left the land, and the nation of Eutriston captured it and positioned a garrison there. In the late 1970's, strengthened Ostehaar decided to take the area from Eutriston, claiming the land belongs to the Oster people. Atnaia decided to assist Ostehaar in this war.

Current map of North Gael

Bonallocia currently covers the area, but since it's been inactive for many days, I assume it'll soon vanish.

Map of "the land beyond the union"

Map of Ostehaar and said area

The war

The war would be a 1970's style ground-based combat, mainly between the Oster military (and its allies) and the Eutristonian garrison (and Eutriston's allies). It might involve naval skirmishes in the Eterna Sea.

No new military factbooks would have to be written for this. To simplify things, we would just list the forces we're sending to battle (for example, only the forces I'm going to attack with, and only Eutriston's forces stationed in the area - not our entire military forces).

Feel free to suggest ideas and possible scenarios.



Participating forces

Attacking side: Ostehaar, Atnaia
Defending side: Eutriston

To join either side, please post here how you want to be included in this story. Try to be as specific as you can (reason for getting involved, general size of force, etc.), and take realism into consideration. Also, keep in mind that it may affect current day relations between participating nations.

I'll limit the number of participants in the actual war to 5-6, but others can and are encouraged to participate in other ways (espionage and special operations, diplomacy, assistance to the fighting parties, etc.).
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Postby Realm of Councilry » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:16 pm

I'd like to be on the attacking side, because my Prime Minister from this era favored Ostehaar, for they had better relations than Eutriston.
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Postby Taziristan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:19 pm

I would like to join the defending side. But to what end?
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Postby Ostehaar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:23 pm

Realm of Councilry wrote:I'd like to be on the attacking side, because my Prime Minister from this era favored Ostehaar, for they had better relations than Eutriston.

Are you talking about actual "boots on the ground" involvement? That's a serious commitment for a nation - your soldiers would be dying for another land, in a war they had nothing to do with. I'm not saying it's impossible, I just want to make sure you know what your nation is getting into.

Taziristan wrote:I would like to join the defending side. But to what end?

I don't know. Perhaps there was a small Muslim community there and your nation sought to protect it?

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Postby Corindia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:32 pm

I might be interested in sending up frigates and escorts (maybe a few destroyers) to protect Corindi shipping and fishing in the area, if there is enough naval conflict for that even to make sense, of course. I'm not really interested in a protracted naval war or embargo, but some skirmishes would be great. This would be my first RP.
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Postby Agadar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:35 pm

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Postby Eutriston » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:49 pm

I'm just going to list a criteria that I'll be grading potential allies in this war on:

  • Being Capatalist
  • Having and willing to give significant economic supplements
  • Being Conservative
  • Being Christian/Having Somewhat Christian policies
  • Having significant military strength
  • Ruthlessness
  • Willing to degrade relations with Ostehaar and Atnaia to help me.
  • Loyalty.
  • My overall judgement of what you bring to the table in this roleplay and how you would help enrich my story.

Of course this is Ostehaar's roleplay so it's his ruling in the end, this is just what make me interesting in having you.
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Postby Vancouvia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:18 pm

So during this time Vancouvia didn't exist, but the precursor Codman did, with a population of less than 100,000, mostly fishermen and traders, but heavily armed. Kinda think of them as like the modern day "Preppers." Is there a way for me to get involved on small scale like this?

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Postby Ostehaar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:32 pm

Vancouvia wrote:So during this time Vancouvia didn't exist, but the precursor Codman did, with a population of less than 100,000, mostly fishermen and traders, but heavily armed. Kinda think of them as like the modern day "Preppers." Is there a way for me to get involved on small scale like this?

An idea I just thought of is this - some of them could have been mercenaries hired by Eutriston or by Ostehaar, to perform specific tasks such as assassinating military commanders or executing sabotage operations.

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Postby Vancouvia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:59 pm

Ostehaar wrote:
Vancouvia wrote:So during this time Vancouvia didn't exist, but the precursor Codman did, with a population of less than 100,000, mostly fishermen and traders, but heavily armed. Kinda think of them as like the modern day "Preppers." Is there a way for me to get involved on small scale like this?

An idea I just thought of is this - some of them could have been mercenaries hired by Eutriston or by Ostehaar, to perform specific tasks such as assassinating military commanders or executing sabotage operations.


That sounds good, they can be poor so that's their motivation for coming out of nowhere

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Postby Taziristan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:06 pm

Eutriston wrote:I'm just going to list a criteria that I'll be grading potential allies in this war on:

  • Being Capatalist
  • Having and willing to give significant economic supplements
  • Being Conservative
  • Being Christian/Having Somewhat Christian policies
  • Having significant military strength
  • Ruthlessness
  • Willing to degrade relations with Ostehaar and Atnaia to help me.
  • Loyalty.
  • My overall judgement of what you bring to the table in this roleplay and how you would help enrich my story.

Of course this is Ostehaar's roleplay so it's his ruling in the end, this is just what make me interesting in having you.

I'm so muslim its crazy, but I could move in as a third party to defend a muslim population.
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Postby Corindia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:55 pm

I'm excited for this. I already geared up a 70s era frigate in Corindi livery.
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Postby Taziristan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:58 pm

Corindia wrote:I'm excited for this. I already geared up a 70s era frigate in Corindi livery.

This is a 1970s war though.
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Postby Corindia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:11 pm

Taziristan wrote:
Corindia wrote:I'm excited for this. I already geared up a 70s era frigate in Corindi livery.

This is a 1970s war though.

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That was one more late seventies/early eighties and may have been refitted later. This one was also seventies but with its initial configuration so it works a bit better.
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Postby Realm of Councilry » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:22 pm

Ostehaar wrote:
Realm of Councilry wrote:I'd like to be on the attacking side, because my Prime Minister from this era favored Ostehaar, for they had better relations than Eutriston.

Are you talking about actual "boots on the ground" involvement? That's a serious commitment for a nation - your soldiers would be dying for another land, in a war they had nothing to do with. I'm not saying it's impossible, I just want to make sure you know what your nation is getting into.

Taziristan wrote:I would like to join the defending side. But to what end?

I don't know. Perhaps there was a small Muslim community there and your nation sought to protect it?

Like more naval and air support than anything.

I don't think I'll have my Amry involved in this, but Navy and Air Force for sure.
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Postby Ostehaar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:11 pm

Vancouvia wrote:That sounds good, they can be poor so that's their motivation for coming out of nowhere

So is it on Eut's side or mine? Eut, what's your opinion?

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Postby Eutriston » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:50 pm

Ostehaar wrote:So is it on Eut's side or mine? Eut, what's your opinion?

I'll take him if he chooses me. It's up to him.
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Postby The Kingdoms of Jhaugher » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:52 pm

Can I join? I was imagining that there is a massive Baldrounien diaspora in the 1970s due to the environmental disasters and overpopulation that Baldroun faces during that decade.

Maybe there was a significant Baldrounien population in the area of conflict? If that is so, I would be defending (with probably 3 frigates, 500 men, and a few tanks and artillery or whatever).
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Postby Realm of Councilry » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:58 pm

So I'm an attacker then?
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Postby Ostehaar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:19 pm

The Kingdoms of Jhaugher wrote:Can I join? I was imagining that there is a massive Baldrounien diaspora in the 1970s due to the environmental disasters and overpopulation that Baldroun faces during that decade. Maybe there was a significant Baldrounien population in the area of conflict? If that is so, I would be defending (with probably 3 frigates, 500 men, and a few tanks and artillery or whatever).


With the intention of getting the people away to your nation?
Realm of Councilry wrote:So I'm an attacker then?

I assume so. We'll get to the actual planning-of-the-war part when we finish with the recruiting. :P

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Postby Realm of Councilry » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:21 pm

Okay den.
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Postby The Kingdoms of Jhaugher » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:44 pm

Ostehaar wrote:
The Kingdoms of Jhaugher wrote:Can I join? I was imagining that there is a massive Baldrounien diaspora in the 1970s due to the environmental disasters and overpopulation that Baldroun faces during that decade. Maybe there was a significant Baldrounien population in the area of conflict? If that is so, I would be defending (with probably 3 frigates, 500 men, and a few tanks and artillery or whatever).


With the intention of getting the people away to your nation?
Realm of Councilry wrote:So I'm an attacker then?

I assume so. We'll get to the actual planning-of-the-war part when we finish with the recruiting. :P


Yes, essentially. Although it would be cool if the military gets caught up in the more complex conflict between Ostehaar and allies and Eutriston :P
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Postby Agadar » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:33 am

I haven't been able to think of a reason yet why the Crowned Confederacy would have been involved in the conflict. I imagine the Agadarian kingdoms to be fairly neutral towards Ostehaar and the northern part of the continent, and maybe somewhat favored towards Eutriston purely because like the Agadarian kingdoms, it's a christian monarchy.
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Postby Verdon » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:14 pm

Do we have a date on which Eutriston took over from the British? I need more information before I can figure out if my nation would be involved.

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Postby Ostehaar » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:24 pm

Verdon wrote:Do we have a date on which Eutriston took over from the British? I need more information before I can figure out if my nation would be involved.

I didn't think of a date since it wasn't needed that much... It's not set in stone.

Eutriston - was there a specific time\decade in your nation's history during which occupying that area would have made sense?

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