The continental blockade (MT/INVITE ONLY/OOC)

[Flardania]

Cooperation is a two-way street. You can't possibly expect us to concede any further than we already have.

I am so fucking tired of people expecting me to keep giving in when the other side refuses to budge over the stupidest shit.

The problem with Ardoki is that he does not realize how quickly I could decimate his nuclear arsenal, thus rendering any second response extremely weak; and the fact that even without that I could do serious damage even without firing a bullet. Soviet military theoreticians fully agreed that nuclear war is winnable with as much as 80% of total potential their state had before the war erupted.

Peace is not really in interest of the Empire of Greater Nihon; damaging Ardoki as a nation is. If Ardoki wants peace, it has to give something in return.

I urge you to not to mix the IC agreement Ardoki is making with Inyursta with the OOC demand that Thaus be represented accurately.

[New Aeyariss]

I urge you to not to mix the IC agreement Ardoki is making with Inyursta with the OOC demand that Thaus be represented accurately.

I am not mixing anything; I am explaining solely what Kojiro believes in and what plans does he have.

Nihonese government has completely different views, ideas and solutions to this problem than has government of Inyursta, but is willing to go along with Inyurstan vision so far... Nihonese interests are far different too, and it should be taken into consideration.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Making sure something you create does not drastically change when handed the account is in another hand is not stupid shit. I would expect if I was to borrow your account you would want me to rp appropriate to how Inyursta would react in the same way as you would not be able to properly rp my nation without discussion with me.

But you wouldn't be borrowing Inyursta. You would be borrowing like North Guerroca or PRT which historically have been part of Inyursta, but aren't necessarily Inyursta proper, and me trying to make a big deal because the linguistic blend must be a perfect 40% Spanish, 35% French and 25% original...
I'm not asking for Ardoki, hell I already caved in my demands for Aanglandian independence down to some tiny island.

Additionally, I know where this road goes. I have seen what happens when someone tries to pull some jumble about similar culture in a former territory. Lolloh used to try and do that all the time so he could cock-block a proper defense of rogue colonies...
It's just another way of keeping control...

Besides, if sentence structure is more important than blockades and war, then why should after everything I have done, bother to continue to negotiate?

[New Aeyariss]

Thuas was supposed to be a small island near Ardoki in the middle of an ocean. Ardokian explorers discovered it several hundreds of years ago (I would say probably the 15th Century); it became an outpost and then a stopover point for Ardokian ships headed to and from the colonies, all the while settlers arrived.

So far I remember 50 different versions that you created. Perhaps care to stop twisting your canon to accommodate your wishes?

If there was a separate ethnicity there; how did they arrive before the Ardokians (the island is a lot closer to Ardoki than anywhere else)? Why did no Ardokians move there and eventually become a majority (there was about 500 years of Ardokian rule)? Why was there no assimilation or adoption of Ardokian culture and customs?

Serbs, Bulgarians and other southern Slavs withstood over 500 years of Ottoman rule, and although it created some cultural influence, in their language the very word "Turk" is considered offensive. Bulgarians lost their state after Vidin Tsardom fallen in 1396, following battle of Nikopolis. Battle of Kosovo field ended Serbian state at 15 June 1389. Bulgaria regained independence in 1878, after 482 years of Ottoman rule - and yet today anti-Turkish riots are common...

Some established cultures are very hard to break. After all, someone coming from a nation that had no state for over 150 years of Austrian, Prussian and Russian occupation can clearly say how strong the culture proven in wake of Russification and Germanization attempts.

If Thuas was an Ardokian colony, that would make sense. However, it was intended to be a small island near Ardoki.

Well I remember that you even merged it with Aanglandia at one point...

[Ardoki]

I merged Thuas with Aanglandia, because I didn't see myself ever having the opportunity to use Thuas again and I didn't want to retcon everything. Then everyone threw a fuss, so I stopped the merger.

Now, people are complaining that Thuas isn't merged with Aanglandia.

[Inyourfaceistan]

I merged Thuas with Aanglandia, because I didn't see myself ever having the opportunity to use Thuas again and I didn't want to retcon everything. Then everyone threw a fuss, so I stopped the merger.

Now, people are complaining that Thuas isn't merged with Aanglandia.

No they are complaining that something that has had its canon changed multiple times is too valuable to risk loosing the perfect sentence structure of its inhabitants...

[Inyourfaceistan]

OOC: I don't consider the blockade cannon, as not even the arrival of a single ship has been written. I find it incredibly unfair that people think they can just claim Ardoki is instantly under a blockade without giving me the opportunity to try and prevent or respond to it.

Okay. Expect arrival posts shortly.

[Independent State of Pridusia]

Hello, curious if I could join?
I have been discussing in game plans with Ardoki.

[Ardoki]

OOC: I don't consider the blockade cannon, as not even the arrival of a single ship has been written. I find it incredibly unfair that people think they can just claim Ardoki is instantly under a blockade without giving me the opportunity to try and prevent or respond to it.

Okay. Expect arrival posts shortly.

I'd also like all still-valid ORBATs listed in the OP please.

[Ardoki]

Map

There is the mainland, Aanglandia, and Thuas... (to the right of Aanglandia). The major cities are listed, with the capital being highlighted.

[Ardoki]

Map

There is the mainland, Aanglandia, and Thuas... (to the right of Aanglandia). The major cities are listed, with the capital being highlighted.

Ignore the map above. This is the correct map: https://i.imgur.com/8mcxLXa.png

[Inyourfaceistan]

I'd also like all still-valid ORBATs listed in the OP please.

Updated my ORBAT and basically just changed the names of my equipment from mostly US-names to local names.
But Nuveau-Lyon class is still a US-built Nimitz, D'Andalucia class is still Arleigh Burke, Anguilla is still Ohio class.

Ignore the map above. This is the correct map: https://i.imgur.com/8mcxLXa.png

Looks great but it's not exactly helpful lol...

How far away is the nearest landmass to Ardoki?

[Ardoki]

Ignore the map above. This is the correct map: https://i.imgur.com/8mcxLXa.png

Looks great but it's not exactly helpful lol...

How far away is the nearest landmass to Ardoki?

If I can recall correctly, it is at least five thousand kilometres.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Looks great but it's not exactly helpful lol...

How far away is the nearest landmass to Ardoki?

If I can recall correctly, it is at least five thousand kilometres.

Okay good.

Is there anything else close? I just don't want to plan on fighting in a wide open isolated ocean space and suddenly dozens of shipping short-routes pop-up...

[Ardoki]

If I can recall correctly, it is at least five thousand kilometres.

Okay good.

Is there anything else close? I just don't want to plan on fighting in a wide open isolated ocean space and suddenly dozens of shipping short-routes pop-up...

I only ever talked to one person regarding proximity (which is there the 5,000 km figure came from), so I can't say that there is anything else close.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Tag for interest

[Inyourfaceistan]

Okay, so I'm going to post this one last freaking time.

I'm not posting this because I or anyone else who I have assessed the situation with feels Ardoki is anything close to a serious threat, I'm not posting this because the Inyurstans are afraid of the garbage coming out of Field Marshal McIver's mouth (indeed his posts are so stupid Inyurstan military intelligence has actually pegged him as a poorly-disguised counter-intel dangle). Right now to be entirely honest I'm extremely confident the combined fleets of SACTO with IFC and Axis Commonwealth nations along with every other nation tired of Ardokian genocidal trash-talk (plus the montage of rogue nations and privateers looking to make a buck of sinking or stealing Ardokian ships and killing or ransoming Ardokian sailors)
Honestly I'm of the impression the Inyurstan military could easily defeat it's Ardokian counterparts if it weren't for the home field advantage. Cusc, Ris, TECT, et al know how I plan military conflicts and do not let my feisty nature fool you I am the furthest thing from confident, especially when dealing with a competent foe like New Hayesalia or Mitheldalond; so don't just wave this off as me being cocky and over-confident.
And it's definitely not because tactical nukes have been threatened, because let me tell you whatever target you would be shooting a tactical nuke at is a lot harder to hit than the targets we would be shooting tactical nukes at. So don't think for one minute "dur hur hur n00x" worked, because trust me everyone here would be glad to get into a tactical nuclear exchange with you.


No, this is because I honestly don't see this thread going very far. I will be glad to sink as many Ardokian ships as I can before it dies and probably kill a submarine or bomb a port or two, but I do not see this as a healthy OOC situation.

So for that reason and that reason alone, I offer this deal ONE LAST TIME:

Okay, here is what (I assume) we are working with in terms of an OOC agreement:

- Ardoki hands over Raghnall Sloane and at least 25 unnamed officials (politicians, military leaders, scientists, ect.) responsible for genocides, tolerance camps, human medical/biowarfare experimentation, political executions, etc. to Inyursta
- Ardoki grants Thaus independence (OOC control given to SACTO)

- Inyursta and other SACTO nations call off the blockade, leave Ardokian shipping lanes open, and don't invade the Ardokian mainland (unless some crazy shit goes down)
- Inyursta hands back most of the PoW's captured in Lebanon

This agreement doesn't expect or enforce:

- A change of Ardoki's government or constitution
- Moriarty, O'Brien, Jakeman, or any other important named character of Ardoki's to be handed over
- Any foreign or SACTO control or influence of Ardokian government or sovereignty

- Inyursta or SACTO to stop covert support of NAFF rebels
- Inyursta or SACTO to automatically* normalize relations with Ardoki or automatically* engage in friendly actions with Ardoki (Of course if Ardoki shows serious legitimate reform and other policy changes encouraging such relations)

---

In order to satiate everyone else involved I agreed to turn over some of the war criminals to each nation I got to agree, which was pretty much every major power involved

Take it or leave it, because the cargo ship hunting starts tonight...

[Ardoki]

Okay, so I'm going to post this one last freaking time.

I'm not posting this because I or anyone else who I have assessed the situation with feels Ardoki is anything close to a serious threat, I'm not posting this because the Inyurstans are afraid of the garbage coming out of Field Marshal McIver's mouth (indeed his posts are so stupid Inyurstan military intelligence has actually pegged him as a poorly-disguised counter-intel dangle). Right now to be entirely honest I'm extremely confident the combined fleets of SACTO with IFC and Axis Commonwealth nations along with every other nation tired of Ardokian genocidal trash-talk (plus the montage of rogue nations and privateers looking to make a buck of sinking or stealing Ardokian ships and killing or ransoming Ardokian sailors)
Honestly I'm of the impression the Inyurstan military could easily defeat it's Ardokian counterparts if it weren't for the home field advantage. Cusc, Ris, TECT, et al know how I plan military conflicts and do not let my feisty nature fool you I am the furthest thing from confident, especially when dealing with a competent foe like New Hayesalia or Mitheldalond; so don't just wave this off as me being cocky and over-confident.
And it's definitely not because tactical nukes have been threatened, because let me tell you whatever target you would be shooting a tactical nuke at is a lot harder to hit than the targets we would be shooting tactical nukes at. So don't think for one minute "dur hur hur n00x" worked, because trust me everyone here would be glad to get into a tactical nuclear exchange with you.


No, this is because I honestly don't see this thread going very far. I will be glad to sink as many Ardokian ships as I can before it dies and probably kill a submarine or bomb a port or two, but I do not see this as a healthy OOC situation.

So for that reason and that reason alone, I offer this deal ONE LAST TIME:

Okay, here is what (I assume) we are working with in terms of an OOC agreement:

- Ardoki hands over Raghnall Sloane and at least 25 unnamed officials (politicians, military leaders, scientists, ect.) responsible for genocides, tolerance camps, human medical/biowarfare experimentation, political executions, etc. to Inyursta
- Ardoki grants Thaus independence (OOC control given to SACTO)

- Inyursta and other SACTO nations call off the blockade, leave Ardokian shipping lanes open, and don't invade the Ardokian mainland (unless some crazy shit goes down)
- Inyursta hands back most of the PoW's captured in Lebanon

This agreement doesn't expect or enforce:

- A change of Ardoki's government or constitution
- Moriarty, O'Brien, Jakeman, or any other important named character of Ardoki's to be handed over
- Any foreign or SACTO control or influence of Ardokian government or sovereignty

- Inyursta or SACTO to stop covert support of NAFF rebels
- Inyursta or SACTO to automatically* normalize relations with Ardoki or automatically* engage in friendly actions with Ardoki (Of course if Ardoki shows serious legitimate reform and other policy changes encouraging such relations)

---

In order to satiate everyone else involved I agreed to turn over some of the war criminals to each nation I got to agree, which was pretty much every major power involved

Take it or leave it, because the cargo ship hunting starts tonight...

If so, I will no longer recognise Thuas... though; as I don't trust anyone to RP it anywhere near the expected standards, so I'll need to distance myself from it completely.

Anyway, why would I just let you blockade my country, sink my ships, and take hostages? What's in it for me?

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Shunning probably

[Ardoki]

Shunning probably

Excuse me?

[Flardania]

Okay, so I'm going to post this one last freaking time.

I'm not posting this because I or anyone else who I have assessed the situation with feels Ardoki is anything close to a serious threat, I'm not posting this because the Inyurstans are afraid of the garbage coming out of Field Marshal McIver's mouth (indeed his posts are so stupid Inyurstan military intelligence has actually pegged him as a poorly-disguised counter-intel dangle). Right now to be entirely honest I'm extremely confident the combined fleets of SACTO with IFC and Axis Commonwealth nations along with every other nation tired of Ardokian genocidal trash-talk (plus the montage of rogue nations and privateers looking to make a buck of sinking or stealing Ardokian ships and killing or ransoming Ardokian sailors)
Honestly I'm of the impression the Inyurstan military could easily defeat it's Ardokian counterparts if it weren't for the home field advantage. Cusc, Ris, TECT, et al know how I plan military conflicts and do not let my feisty nature fool you I am the furthest thing from confident, especially when dealing with a competent foe like New Hayesalia or Mitheldalond; so don't just wave this off as me being cocky and over-confident.
And it's definitely not because tactical nukes have been threatened, because let me tell you whatever target you would be shooting a tactical nuke at is a lot harder to hit than the targets we would be shooting tactical nukes at. So don't think for one minute "dur hur hur n00x" worked, because trust me everyone here would be glad to get into a tactical nuclear exchange with you.


No, this is because I honestly don't see this thread going very far. I will be glad to sink as many Ardokian ships as I can before it dies and probably kill a submarine or bomb a port or two, but I do not see this as a healthy OOC situation.

So for that reason and that reason alone, I offer this deal ONE LAST TIME:

Okay, here is what (I assume) we are working with in terms of an OOC agreement:

- Ardoki hands over Raghnall Sloane and at least 25 unnamed officials (politicians, military leaders, scientists, ect.) responsible for genocides, tolerance camps, human medical/biowarfare experimentation, political executions, etc. to Inyursta
- Ardoki grants Thaus independence (OOC control given to SACTO)

- Inyursta and other SACTO nations call off the blockade, leave Ardokian shipping lanes open, and don't invade the Ardokian mainland (unless some crazy shit goes down)
- Inyursta hands back most of the PoW's captured in Lebanon

This agreement doesn't expect or enforce:

- A change of Ardoki's government or constitution
- Moriarty, O'Brien, Jakeman, or any other important named character of Ardoki's to be handed over
- Any foreign or SACTO control or influence of Ardokian government or sovereignty

- Inyursta or SACTO to stop covert support of NAFF rebels
- Inyursta or SACTO to automatically* normalize relations with Ardoki or automatically* engage in friendly actions with Ardoki (Of course if Ardoki shows serious legitimate reform and other policy changes encouraging such relations)

---

In order to satiate everyone else involved I agreed to turn over some of the war criminals to each nation I got to agree, which was pretty much every major power involved

Take it or leave it, because the cargo ship hunting starts tonight...

If so, I will no longer recognise Thuas... though; as I don't trust anyone to RP it anywhere near the expected standards, so I'll need to distance myself from it completely.

Anyway, why would I just let you blockade my country, sink my ships, and take hostages? What's in it for me?

Plot? Story? Something to acknowledge in our canons? (Just guessing, not my views)

[New Aeyariss]

If so, I will no longer recognise Thuas... though; as I don't trust anyone to RP it anywhere near the expected standards, so I'll need to distance myself from it completely.

Anyway, why would I just let you blockade my country, sink my ships, and take hostages? What's in it for me?

Why are you assuming that Ardoki is you? It should be "What is in it for Ardoki"?

And if you do not want to RP then why are you still here?

[Ardoki]

If so, I will no longer recognise Thuas... though; as I don't trust anyone to RP it anywhere near the expected standards, so I'll need to distance myself from it completely.

Anyway, why would I just let you blockade my country, sink my ships, and take hostages? What's in it for me?

Plot? Story? Something to acknowledge in our canons? (Just guessing, not my views)

But there is no plot, I requested that but no one replied. I'm personally interested in RPs for the story and how it relates to my nation. But this seems just to be about beating Ardoki.

[Ardoki]

If so, I will no longer recognise Thuas... though; as I don't trust anyone to RP it anywhere near the expected standards, so I'll need to distance myself from it completely.

Anyway, why would I just let you blockade my country, sink my ships, and take hostages? What's in it for me?

Why are you assuming that Ardoki is you? It should be "What is in it for Ardoki"?

And if you do not want to RP then why are you still here?

I enjoy RPs for the story and how it relates to my nation. I don't care about what Ardoki gets, all I want is an interesting and well-planned plot.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Plot? Story? Something to acknowledge in our canons? (Just guessing, not my views)

But there is no plot, I requested that but no one replied. I'm personally interested in RPs for the story and how it relates to my nation. But this seems just to be about beating Ardoki.

Well you get POW's back which is about high time that happened, SACTO doesn't frogmarch over your capital and you get some breathing space, that's assuming you can play ball, SACTO gets what it wants and you get the most important thing, time and distance