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Declaration of war on India liberation movement

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Shaff
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Postby Shaff » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:18 pm

As the Shaffian gov't heard of a retaliatory strike with WMD's, the public was sent into panic. The Sultan declared martial law to keep things calm in the country. With that problem out of the way, the Shaffian military discussed its options. After 5 hours of intense deliberations, the General Mohamed of the Shaffian military ordered the army cease all actions and released this statement to all countries currently involved-

The Sultanate of Shaff does not respond to threats lightly but with pressure from the Shaffian population, we now strive for peaceful end to this conflict. We feel that Great Nepalese India is not worth the millions that are going to be dead after the bombs strike. We ask that you cancel the launches and begin deliberations on ending this conflict once and for all without shedding more blood.



_______________________________________________________________________________________
While the General waited for a reply,

the Sultan has declared war on MK45, Reich1, and Grand Nazi Germany and has ordered 4 nuclear powered submarines, 6 Montana-class battleships , and 4 Yamato class battleships to blockade Great Nepal's ports in an effort to cut off food, and supplies if negotiaitions on peace are futile.

Also 1,000,000 troops are sent out from Shaff to aid frontlines.

10 C-130J Super Hercules are also sent out with supplies, and ammunition to troops.
They will be escorted by 20 F-18's to protect from foreign forces.

Troops are ordered to enter Great Nepal to prepare a massive retaliatory invasion in the event the launches are successful and peaces talks are not successful.

OOC : (Great Nepal) I think we should get a peace treaty

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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:23 pm

OOC: We can have a peace treaty between Shaff, me, Grand Nazi Germany, Reich1 but this war will continue between me and liberation army.Our lunches are canceled at the last moment.
Last edited by Great Nepal on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by Great Nepal on Sun Nov 29, 1995 7:02 am, edited 1 time in total.


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Postby Reich1 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:25 pm

Reich1 agrees to Great Nepal and asks Shaff to come to a peaceful agreement but the war with liberation army will continue. If this attempt fails Reich1 will lunch 11 nukes to Shaff. And we also ask Shaff not to declare a war on the nations which are not involved in the war.
Last edited by Reich1 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Alexiandra
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Postby Alexiandra » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:30 pm

Shaff wrote:As the Shaffian gov't heard of a retaliatory strike with WMD's, the public was sent into panic. The Sultan declared martial law to keep things calm in the country. With that problem out of the way, the Shaffian military discussed its options. After 5 hours of intense deliberations, the General Mohamed of the Shaffian military ordered the army cease all actions and released this statement to all countries currently involved-

The Sultanate of Shaff does not respond to threats lightly but with pressure from the Shaffian population, we now strive for peaceful end to this conflict. We feel that Great Nepalese India is not worth the millions that are going to be dead after the bombs strike. We ask that you cancel the launches and begin deliberations on ending this conflict once and for all without shedding more blood.
I agree.The liberation army hates us though. :p


_______________________________________________________________________________________
While the General waited for a reply,

the Sultan has declared war on MK45, Reich1, and Grand Nazi Germany and has ordered 4 nuclear powered submarines, 6 Montana-class battleships , and 4 Yamato class battleships to blockade Great Nepal's ports in an effort to cut off food, and supplies if negotiaitions on peace are futile.

Also 1,000,000 troops are sent out from Shaff to aid frontlines.

10 C-130J Super Hercules are also sent out with supplies, and ammunition to troops.
They will be escorted by 20 F-18's to protect from foreign forces.

Troops are ordered to enter Great Nepal to prepare a massive retaliatory invasion in the event the launches are successful and peaces talks are not successful.

OOC : (Great Nepal) I think we should get a peace treaty
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Shaff
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Postby Shaff » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:32 pm

As the Sultan went over the requirements of the peace treaty, he sensed an opportunity and acted on it.

To: Great Nepal
Is there anyway I can join your side and help you destroy the India Liberation Movement, in return for some territory ? I would like to enhance my colonial possessions.

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Postby Alexiandra » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:32 pm

I agree. The liberation army hates me though. :p
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Postby Alexiandra » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:35 pm

Alexiandra wrote:I agree. The liberation army hates me though. :p

Yes you could help us...
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Postby Alexiandra » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:37 pm

Shaff wrote:As the Sultan went over the requirements of the peace treaty, he sensed an opportunity and acted on it.

To: Great Nepal
Is there anyway I can join your side and help you destroy the India Liberation Movement, in return for some territory ? I would like to enhance my colonial possessions.

I think he should join us.
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:47 pm

A unconditional peace has been declared between Shaff and Great Nepal and its allies, all the hostile actions are ceased.
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Postby Alexiandra » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:55 pm

Great Nepal wrote:A unconditional peace has been declared between Shaff and Great Nepal and its allies, all the hostile actions are ceased.

I declare a truce between Alexiandra and Shaff.
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:55 pm

we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry
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Shaff
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Postby Shaff » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:13 pm

Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

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Postby Almaniania » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:43 pm

Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:03 pm

Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all
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Never let it rest.
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And your better is best." -St. Jerome

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Postby Almaniania » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:07 pm

Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Ok. Just... fail. You fail.
Ignore cannon.
Now just please, go read the stickies. Please. No one can deal with you. Your RPing is horrible, and when someone points that out, you flame them.
Please, just shut up.

Well, the other nations, please continue. This is very interesting.
I used a total ignore cannon, so he's out.
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Postby Kelanis » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:16 pm

Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Mostly wrong.

If you're using MIRV, they can still all be easily individually intercepted with lasers and missile-launched kinetic kill vehicles, at least on the scale which you used them. He also could have intercepted them before your MIRV's had a chance to separate, thus destroying all of the warheads with one hit. Conventionally destroying the warheads would result in no damage or 'anarchy' to anything on the ground below.

As for intercepting them with a nuclear warhead, it's also very feasible, i.e. using an enhanced-radiation warhead to destroy them via neutron flux. Less desirible than conventional intercepts because of EMP, but if you are doing a midcourse intercept where the missiles are over someone else's territory, why do you care what the ramifications would be? You're fighting for your country's survival.

(And no, if a conventional kill vehicle strikes a nuclear warhead a detonation does not result.)
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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:18 pm

Almaniania wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Ok. Just... fail. You fail.
Ignore cannon.
Now just please, go read the stickies. Please. No one can deal with you. Your RPing is horrible, and when someone points that out, you flame them.
Please, just shut up.

Well, the other nations, please continue. This is very interesting.
I used a total ignore cannon, so he's out.
ooc: :palm: k well u do know that wmd having a cluster bomb capability is modern tech the united states has it also the russians have it, and most likly most of the nuclear powered nations have it so i will just do what i always do ignore ur ignore cannon.
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Never let it rest.
'Till your good is better
And your better is best." -St. Jerome

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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:23 pm

Kelanis wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Mostly wrong.

If you're using MIRV, they can still all be easily individually intercepted with lasers and missile-launched kinetic kill vehicles, at least on the scale which you used them. He also could have intercepted them before your MIRV's had a chance to separate, thus destroying all of the warheads with one hit. Conventionally destroying the warheads would result in no damage or 'anarchy' to anything on the ground below.

As for intercepting them with a nuclear warhead, it's also very feasible, i.e. using an enhanced-radiation warhead to destroy them via neutron flux. Less desirible than conventional intercepts because of EMP, but if you are doing a midcourse intercept where the missiles are over someone else's territory, why do you care what the ramifications would be? You're fighting for your country's survival.

(And no, if a conventional kill vehicle strikes a nuclear warhead a detonation does not result.)
ooc: i did not say that they cant be stopped and yes u r correct about how 2 destroy a nuke in mid-flight but the reason why i care about the other nations being effected by the emp is because it could result in nuclear war and knowing cons they would just jump at a chance 2 stop me in a nuclear war
"Good, better, best.
Never let it rest.
'Till your good is better
And your better is best." -St. Jerome

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Postby Kelanis » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:35 pm

Nitom wrote:
Kelanis wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Mostly wrong.

If you're using MIRV, they can still all be easily individually intercepted with lasers and missile-launched kinetic kill vehicles, at least on the scale which you used them. He also could have intercepted them before your MIRV's had a chance to separate, thus destroying all of the warheads with one hit. Conventionally destroying the warheads would result in no damage or 'anarchy' to anything on the ground below.

As for intercepting them with a nuclear warhead, it's also very feasible, i.e. using an enhanced-radiation warhead to destroy them via neutron flux. Less desirible than conventional intercepts because of EMP, but if you are doing a midcourse intercept where the missiles are over someone else's territory, why do you care what the ramifications would be? You're fighting for your country's survival.

(And no, if a conventional kill vehicle strikes a nuclear warhead a detonation does not result.)
ooc: i did not say that they cant be stopped and yes u r correct about how 2 destroy a nuke in mid-flight but the reason why i care about the other nations being effected by the emp is because it could result in nuclear war and knowing cons they would just jump at a chance 2 stop me in a nuclear war


OOC: I'll be honest with you: I would jump at a chance to stop ANYONE in a nuclear war. It's HORRIBLE form and completely unnecessary. It makes for stupid, uninteresting RP, and usually culminates in an ignorefest. So, if I could make you a suggestion: don't use your nukes unless you are attacked with nuclear arms first, or your country is about to fall to an invasion.
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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:42 pm

Kelanis wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Kelanis wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Almaniania wrote:
Shaff wrote:
Nitom wrote:we have launched 38 WMD (6 nukes, 30 hydrogen bombs, and 2 neutron bombs) we can not stop the wmd 20 are to hit the capital of shaff and the other major cities we believe the death toll will be up in the millions im sorry but they can not be destroied they are total war grade wmd i suggest you evacuate all that you can before they hit it will take about 15 mins. the other 18 are on the way to strike navel, airforce, and other military bases im sorry



If any of those missiles hit, we are in a state of war... I hereby warn you.
Do all it takes to stop them. I have launched 100 ABM's from my warships to stop them.

OOC:They can't hit.
He is under CoNS protection.
This means...


The nuclear missles were flying into the air. It seemed like they couldn't be stopped.
*Almanianian SDI active*
*Checking area*
*Area detects 38 WMDs*
*Launch retaliatory defense*
The satellites shot missiles at the WMDs... the WMDs were destroyed in a fiery blast.

OOC: No one can say this is godmodding. It isn't.
well even if u could destroy them there would be a massive emp that would do cosiderable damage to the nations in its range also the fact of the explotion 1. u have to worry about anarchy and damage and also the missles arnt really much of a friendly type of thing u see as they r total war grade wmd they have a cluster bomb effect that when threatened to do the most damage several warheads shoot out and take out even more targets u could take them out with a wmd but that would cause a lot of damage or just shoot all the missles that u can at them and see if u can hit them all


OOC: Mostly wrong.

If you're using MIRV, they can still all be easily individually intercepted with lasers and missile-launched kinetic kill vehicles, at least on the scale which you used them. He also could have intercepted them before your MIRV's had a chance to separate, thus destroying all of the warheads with one hit. Conventionally destroying the warheads would result in no damage or 'anarchy' to anything on the ground below.

As for intercepting them with a nuclear warhead, it's also very feasible, i.e. using an enhanced-radiation warhead to destroy them via neutron flux. Less desirible than conventional intercepts because of EMP, but if you are doing a midcourse intercept where the missiles are over someone else's territory, why do you care what the ramifications would be? You're fighting for your country's survival.

(And no, if a conventional kill vehicle strikes a nuclear warhead a detonation does not result.)
ooc: i did not say that they cant be stopped and yes u r correct about how 2 destroy a nuke in mid-flight but the reason why i care about the other nations being effected by the emp is because it could result in nuclear war and knowing cons they would just jump at a chance 2 stop me in a nuclear war


OOC: I'll be honest with you: I would jump at a chance to stop ANYONE in a nuclear war. It's HORRIBLE form and completely unnecessary. It makes for stupid, uninteresting RP, and usually culminates in an ignorefest. So, if I could make you a suggestion: don't use your nukes unless you are attacked with nuclear arms first, or your country is about to fall to an invasion.
well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons
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Postby Trescott » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:03 pm

Nitom wrote: well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons


OOC: Disarm? There's always that possibility.
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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:26 pm

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Nitom wrote: well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons


OOC: Disarm? There's always that possibility.
ooc: i will never disarm a nuke unless its 2 save my nation.
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Nitom wrote:
Trescott wrote:
Nitom wrote: well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons


OOC: Disarm? There's always that possibility.
ooc: i will never disarm a nuke unless its 2 save my nation.


OOC: Well, how about we put it this way. If you disarm your nukes and/or stop launching them aimlessly for every RP you are involved in (for all i am aware of), then the Community might stop using their "ignore cannons" on you and you don't have to use yours either. Maybe do an RP where a nuke does get blown up, but not like 50 of them all at the same time. If that happens, then the ignore cannons come... Anyways, just my suggestion. Besides, if you keep using nukes to try to end/participate in an RP, then people will either still continue with the RP and totally ignore you, or create a new thread. Basically, nukes and RP don't really mix that well unless if there is drama and definite reason in the usage (ex. annihilation of your own nation, extremists, etc.). Reasons such as "i want to destroy your nation just cause like i felt like it" isn't really a good reason to start an all-out nuclear war. Those kinds of reasons would just make the RPing community laugh and not want to RP with you.

In summary: Using Nukes to end/participate in an RP is beyond a doubt, idiotic, to a point.
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Postby Nitom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:45 pm

Trescott wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Trescott wrote:
Nitom wrote: well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons


OOC: Disarm? There's always that possibility.
ooc: i will never disarm a nuke unless its 2 save my nation.


OOC: Well, how about we put it this way. If you disarm your nukes and/or stop launching them aimlessly for every RP you are involved in (for all i am aware of), then the Community might stop using their "ignore cannons" on you and you don't have to use yours either. Maybe do an RP where a nuke does get blown up, but not like 50 of them all at the same time. If that happens, then the ignore cannons come... Anyways, just my suggestion. Besides, if you keep using nukes to try to end/participate in an RP, then people will either still continue with the RP and totally ignore you, or create a new thread. Basically, nukes and RP don't really mix that well unless if there is drama and definite reason in the usage (ex. annihilation of your own nation, extremists, etc.). Reasons such as "i want to destroy your nation just cause like i felt like it" isn't really a good reason to start an all-out nuclear war. Those kinds of reasons would just make the RPing community laugh and not want to RP with you.

In summary: Using Nukes to end/participate in an RP is beyond a doubt, idiotic, to a point.
ooc: really i only use nuclear weapons 2 heat stuff up try and get the rp rollin a little more or if i have 2 so far i have only had 2 launch nuclear weapons as a last resort 2 times
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Postby Trescott » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:00 pm

Nitom wrote:
Trescott wrote:
Nitom wrote:
Trescott wrote:
Nitom wrote: well what do i do with all my extra nuclear weapons


OOC: Disarm? There's always that possibility.
ooc: i will never disarm a nuke unless its 2 save my nation.


OOC: Well, how about we put it this way. If you disarm your nukes and/or stop launching them aimlessly for every RP you are involved in (for all i am aware of), then the Community might stop using their "ignore cannons" on you and you don't have to use yours either. Maybe do an RP where a nuke does get blown up, but not like 50 of them all at the same time. If that happens, then the ignore cannons come... Anyways, just my suggestion. Besides, if you keep using nukes to try to end/participate in an RP, then people will either still continue with the RP and totally ignore you, or create a new thread. Basically, nukes and RP don't really mix that well unless if there is drama and definite reason in the usage (ex. annihilation of your own nation, extremists, etc.). Reasons such as "i want to destroy your nation just cause like i felt like it" isn't really a good reason to start an all-out nuclear war. Those kinds of reasons would just make the RPing community laugh and not want to RP with you.

In summary: Using Nukes to end/participate in an RP is beyond a doubt, idiotic, to a point.
ooc: really i only use nuclear weapons 2 heat stuff up try and get the rp rollin a little more or if i have 2 so far i have only had 2 launch nuclear weapons as a last resort 2 times


OOC: You're not understanding what i'm trying to say. The fact is, you shouldn't use nukes at all! If you keep using nukes, even to "heat stuff up", no one will take you seriously. RPing is about telling a story. Its not about sending nukes to try to end/start a war. You are telling a story. It's not a story about you pushing the big red button to launch the nukes and destroy a nation. No. Its about telling the epicness of YOUR nation. These stories are not about how your nation sends nukes in its defense/offense, but about how it participates in the NS World and Community. Its about telling the stories of individuals and nations that don't exist in the real world, but exist in this world. NationStates is a place for people to have fun and enjoy themselves, but at the same time, be serious about what they are doing for the sake of other players. It is NOT a place to abrubtly end/start wars out of nowhere. However, it is also a game, and should be kept as a game.

Haha, i sound too serious in this. I don't mean to be, but i get sucked into my writing. :p
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