The Trifaction Crisis (Diplomacy/OOC/OPEN)

[Fascistisk State]

Go for it bud,

I am probably going to have a bunch of the new Sjokk Korps get attacked and slaughtered by the Paladins, if that's alright?

Don't expect much material for the "woe is me" propaganda campaign. We haven't reached that stage in the "Spec Ops: The Line" syndrome for Paladins to start getting brutal. And besides, The League will probably try to break the Fascistisk's ideological brainwashing any chance they get. 'Specially with Sven running around.

No no no not for a woe is me campaign, for something else

[Zaurell]

Why is that?

Between UIJ's dumb fucking hero logic, Fascistisk's acquisition of Anzios, the nullification of anything that makes the Paladins useful, the infighting between League members, my autistic inability to properly process chat banter without being demoralized OOC, and all the shit going on for me IRL?

UIJ's "hero" logic- His Satanic wank means nothing.
Anzios- What about them?
Nullification- False, they are simply not invincible.
Infighting- I believe we can resolve any internal conflicts.
Banter- You just need practice.
IRL stuff- If you need, I can hold the League together while you attend to IRL matters.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

Hey the Paladins are still the toughest, besides the FT tech nations, special ops soldiers in the rp. Almost no small arms can harm them. Here is a complete list of the things in the Prussian arsenal that might be able to take one down.

Mass Artillery
Tank cannons
Air strikes
Panzerscheck anti-tank missile
Panzerfuast anti-tank railgun
Strumtropper breaching charge(has to be planted at melee range)
Combat engineer or griffin cavalry explosives(either has to be set up before hand or somehow get the explosives near the paladin)
Flammenwerfer (Depends whether or not the paladin armor has any open spaces to let the liquid fire get into the armor)
Substantiated .50 cal machine gun fire(The same machine gun that can rip normal humans in half with one shot)

Everything on this list is anti vehicle, with most of it being anti-tank.Your paladins in a Seal Team 6 role are basically unstoppable with the only danger being if they take a shock trooper role.

[Caelestiam]

Hey the Paladins are still the toughest, besides the FT tech nations, special ops soldiers in the rp. Almost no small arms can harm them. Here is a complete list of the things in the Prussian arsenal that might be able to take one down.

Mass Artillery
Tank cannons
Air strikes
Panzerscheck anti-tank missile
Panzerfuast anti-tank railgun
Strumtropper breaching charge(has to be planted at melee range)
Combat engineer or griffin cavalry explosives(either has to be set up before hand or somehow get the explosives near the paladin)
Flammenwerfer (Depends whether or not the paladin armor has any open spaces to let the liquid fire get into the armor)
Substantiated .50 cal machine gun fire(The same machine gun that can rip normal humans in half with one shot)

Everything on this list is anti vehicle, with most of it being anti-tank.Your paladins in a Seal Team 6 role are basically unstoppable with the only danger being if they take a shock trooper role.

Would a 20mm be able to wreck one in a single shot? You're probably one of the most experienced here when it comes to military realism. Describe the 20mm and its effects?

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

Would a 20mm be able to wreck one in a single shot? You're probably one of the most experienced here when it comes to military realism. Describe the 20mm and its effects?

I have no idea. I am not a military man or know anything about ballistics. All my information comes from Wikipedia. So take what I say with a grain of salt.

The 20 mm is a cannon round, able to be filled with HE and other fun stuff. You were talking about the Anzio, which has a Wikipedia article. According to the article, it has over three times the power of a .50 cal(or 12.7mm) from a comparable rifle. The famous Barrett .50 cal is not comparable as the Anzio has about twice the barrel length, giving the bullet about twice the distance to accelerate. That said, the Barrett is the only anti-material rifle I know anything about.

The Barrett is design to do heavy damage to military engine blocks and is very powerful. I remember watching a documentary on the History channel where they tested its power. They set up a target that was made up of 6 steel plates each about an inch think with about an inch of space between them. The Barrett sent the target flying and managed to penetrate up the the fifth plate. From this, we can infer that the Barrett .50 cal can penetrate about 5 inches of steel, if I remember it right.

In conclusion, I'd say that it might be able to kill paladin. The Anzio is likely at least 4-5 more powerful than a Barrett due the more powerful round and longer barrel. I can not say for sure how powerful it is, because I don't know the physics inside a gun barrel. I can not say much about what happens when the round hits the paladin, as I don't know much about ballistics or what strength to use for carbon nano tubes or titanium. In addition there situations where steel is stronger than titanium and vice versa. I am not sure sure which situation this is. However, do keep in mind that this is a 27kg (59 lb) to 59+ (130 lb) kg rifle. This needs a lot of preparation before hand and will be very clumsily. If a paladin surprises a group of soldiers armed with it, they would likely be helpless due to the rifle's sheer weight.

[Fascistisk State]

I have no idea. I am not a military man or know anything about ballistics. All my information comes from Wikipedia. So take what I say with a grain of salt.

The 20 mm is a cannon round, able to be filled with HE and other fun stuff. You were talking about the Anzio, which has a Wikipedia article. According to the article, it has over three times the power of a .50 cal(or 12.7mm) from a comparable rifle. The famous Barrett .50 cal is not comparable as the Anzio has about twice the barrel length, giving the bullet about twice the distance to accelerate. That said, the Barrett is the only anti-material rifle I know anything about.

The Barrett is design to do heavy damage to military engine blocks and is very powerful. I remember watching a documentary on the History channel where they tested its power. They set up a target that was made up of 6 steel plates each about an inch think with about an inch of space between them. The Barrett sent the target flying and managed to penetrate up the the fifth plate. From this, we can infer that the Barrett .50 cal can penetrate about 5 inches of steel, if I remember it right.

In conclusion, I'd say that it might be able to kill paladin. The Anzio is likely at least 4-5 more powerful than a Barrett due the more powerful round and longer barrel. I can not say for sure how powerful it is, because I don't know the physics inside a gun barrel. I can not say much about what happens when the round hits the paladin, as I don't know much about ballistics or what strength to use for carbon nano tubes or titanium. In addition there situations where steel is stronger than titanium and vice versa. I am not sure sure which situation this is. However, do keep in mind that this is a 27kg (59 lb) to 59+ (130 lb) kg rifle. This needs a lot of preparation before hand and will be very clumsily. If a paladin surprises a group of soldiers armed with it, they would likely be helpless due to the rifle's sheer weight.

The Sjokk Korps will only be using that rifle when the Paladins are a safe distance away, trying to use such a rifle at short range would be nothing short of suicidal topkek

[Hydraic Empire]

The Anzios does not make the Paladins useless, it gives me the ability to defeat them. Without the Anzio you have made it quite clear that they are pretty much invincible.

I kept that separate for a reason. Mo7's = stupid.
Mo8's = obsolete.
Armor = Paper Maché.
Years of training and skill throughout a legacy of combat possibly stretching back centuries for some Paladins = Fuck that, take a bullet to the face and end it in less than a second.

I'm sorry about your paladins, I feel bad for them. Normal armor is completely useless against advanced weaponry :/
On a different note, who here has "zombie" magic? We could cowrite a post where my Death G.U.E.S.S. are shown. Since it is only for demonstrative purposes, the other person would win (not me).

[Zaurell]

I kept that separate for a reason. Mo7's = stupid.
Mo8's = obsolete.
Armor = Paper Maché.
Years of training and skill throughout a legacy of combat possibly stretching back centuries for some Paladins = Fuck that, take a bullet to the face and end it in less than a second.

I'm sorry about your paladins, I feel bad for them. Normal armor is completely useless against advanced weaponry :/
On a different note, who here has "zombie" magic? We could cowrite a post where my Death G.U.E.S.S. are shown. Since it is only for demonstrative purposes, the other person would win (not me).

The Zaurellians are masters of the dark art of necromancy.

[Caelestiam]

Hey. Question. How is Anchorwatt on illegal in humane experimentation, genetic manipulation, and magic biowarfare? I had some creatures in my lore I wanted to use to let Anchorwatt not get roflstomped.

[Anchorwatt]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

[Caelestiam]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

I more or less plan for Aquadale to take over as the provisional leader, since he is significantly more intelligent than 99.99 percent of the population, and he's actually decent company.

But you need to actually put forth some effort to be a horrible nation. Put up concentration camps and shit.

[Fascistisk State]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

I more or less plan for Aquadale to take over as the provisional leader, since he is significantly more intelligent than 99.99 percent of the population, and he's actually decent company.

But you need to actually put forth some effort to be a horrible nation. Put up concentration camps and shit.

But what about muh precious moral ambiguity...?

[Anchorwatt]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

I more or less plan for Aquadale to take over as the provisional leader, since he is significantly more intelligent than 99.99 percent of the population, and he's actually decent company.

But you need to actually put forth some effort to be a horrible nation. Put up concentration camps and shit.

I would but that would require that we have a place where your people would be coming from. and we don't. No one would want to risk transport your citizens just so they can be executed. and I highly doubt any of your citizens are coming over here on purpose.

[Caelestiam]

I more or less plan for Aquadale to take over as the provisional leader, since he is significantly more intelligent than 99.99 percent of the population, and he's actually decent company.

But you need to actually put forth some effort to be a horrible nation. Put up concentration camps and shit.

I would but that would require that we have a place where your people would be coming from. and we don't. No one would want to risk transport your citizens just so they can be executed. and I highly doubt any of your citizens are coming over here on purpose.

We discussed the possibility of Anchorwatt building concentration camps on or near Caelestian soil during a counter invasion. That, and a hell of a lot of our people are in fact intentionally coming to Anchorwatt.

With guns.

[Zaurell]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

That's actually a great idea. I wasn't sure what to sentence him to.

I more or less plan for Aquadale to take over as the provisional leader, since he is significantly more intelligent than 99.99 percent of the population, and he's actually decent company.

But you need to actually put forth some effort to be a horrible nation. Put up concentration camps and shit.

But what about muh precious moral ambiguity...?

There is none.

[Anchorwatt]

We discussed the possibility of Anchorwatt building concentration camps on or near Caelestian soil during a counter invasion. That, and a hell of a lot of our people are in fact intentionally coming to Anchorwatt.

With guns.

Okay. I am more than willing to be more incredibly evil. But as you are very aware, I suck at writing fluidly. I can come up with ideas all day an write them down, but they aren't anywhere close to being presentable. So I am going to need help with that.

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

That's actually a great idea. I wasn't sure what to sentence him to.

Thanks!

[Caelestiam]

They think it's immoral like just about everything else. But There is an underground lab where captured Scientist from other nations we have been at war with are held to do said experiments. Mainly because people in Anchorwatt Aren't smart. The only reason Cornelius is an A.I is because another nation made it for us. Magic on the other hand is almost completely unknown. And feel free to roflstomp away. I am perfectly fine with this nation being destroyed. I am playing on another nation more now and i plan on it being my final nation. Just promise me if you do you'll make Cornelius be forced to be in a museum exhibit about the war. I just picture him being pissed off for eternity having to live in a museum exhibit dedicated to how his nation was destroyed. Either that or send him to my other nation so I can put him a museum.

That's actually a great idea. I wasn't sure what to sentence him to.

But what about muh precious moral ambiguity...?

There is none.

Give him to my museums. We can stick him in the Citadel Archives Institution, our equivalent of the Smithsonian. He'll forever be surrounded by the very nonhumans, homosexuals, and "immoral beasts" he so despises. Forever.

[Anchorwatt]

That's actually a great idea. I wasn't sure what to sentence him to.


There is none.

Give him to my museums. We can stick him in the Citadel Archives Institution, our equivalent of the Smithsonian. He'll forever be surrounded by the very nonhumans, homosexuals, and "immoral beasts" he so despises. Forever.

That's the idea.

When I have a chance i'll improve this. using photoshop clones never turn out good.

[Aterria]

We have gulags in Northern Canada and Alaska for enemies of the state.

[Fascistisk State]

We have gulags in Northern Canada and Alaska for enemies of the state.

Thats nice buddy

[Aterria]

We have gulags in Northern Canada and Alaska for enemies of the state.

Thats nice buddy

We turned them into death camps in the 70s (or will) for Nippon's non human population.

[Fascistisk State]

We turned them into death camps in the 70s (or will) for Nippon's non human population.

Thats not so nice buddy

[Aterria]

We turned them into death camps in the 70s (or will) for Nippon's non human population.

Thats not so nice buddy

Aterrian law states that all humans are created equal. If you don't apply, well... yeah.

[Caelestiam]

Thats not so nice buddy

Aterrian law states that all humans are created equal. If you don't apply, well... yeah.

You touch any of our nonhumans and it will be hell.

[Aterria]

Aterrian law states that all humans are created equal. If you don't apply, well... yeah.

You touch any of our nonhumans and it will be hell.

atomic weapons are used on non human nations with extreme prejedice. Also, the Eurasians (our verse) can probabaly be convinced to send in their human waves too.