The Trifaction Crisis (Diplomacy/OOC/OPEN)

[Mazanteria]

Clearly nobody, because you tried to bum both factions to fetch your Jutland.

When did we try to bum the TS? We were going to do exactly as we said, fight Zeanbia's allies.

Also funny enough, the TS are the only ones with a water navy. With most of the ships coming from us, the land focused power. Something went a bit wrong there.

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

[Fascistisk State]

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

like those fighters from that really fun mission in Halo Reach?

[Mazanteria]

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

like those fighters from that really fun mission in Halo Reach?

No, not like those fighters. Bigger, and more powerful. But, yeah that mission was pretty fun, let's be honest. Too bad Jorge died...

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

I was going off of factbooks. If it isn't in a factbook I don't know that it exists, unless someone tells me otherwise.

[Epsilon Aquarii]

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

I was going off of factbooks. If it isn't in a factbook I don't know that it exists, unless someone tells me otherwise.

I mean.... I have a water navy too. Before you pull the factbook card, it's there. You just never looked.

[Mazanteria]

False. I have a water navy. My nation is technically along the Mediterranean, so water-borne vessels are a must. I do have a few space-capable combat ships, but they would be like the earliest versions you would see in reality. Basically, these vessels need powerful boosters to get into orbit to fight.

I was going off of factbooks. If it isn't in a factbook I don't know that it exists, unless someone tells me otherwise.

Well, I obviously have not finished my factbook, so...

[New Aerios]

Also funny enough, the TS are the only ones with a water navy. With most of the ships coming from us, the land focused power. Something went a bit wrong there.

False, I have a water navy. You may recall that I made a post in the IC thread about a month ago that was set on board an aircraft carrier in the North Sea.

Before you pull the factbook card, I'm too lazy to write a navy factbook.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

I was going off of factbooks. If it isn't in a factbook I don't know that it exists, unless someone tells me otherwise.

I mean.... I have a water navy too. Before you pull the factbook card, it's there. You just never looked.

I assumed you didn't have one because you already had the space one.Well, you know what they say about assumptions.

False, I have a water navy. You may recall that I made a post in the IC thread about a month ago that was set on board an aircraft carrier in the North Sea.

Before you pull the factbook card, I'm too lazy to write a navy factbook.

I remembered that right before I went to bed.

Now, is there any other way I have made a fool out myself?

[Epsilon Aquarii]

I mean.... I have a water navy too. Before you pull the factbook card, it's there. You just never looked.

I assumed you didn't have one because you already had the space one.Well, you know what they say about assumptions.

False, I have a water navy. You may recall that I made a post in the IC thread about a month ago that was set on board an aircraft carrier in the North Sea.

Before you pull the factbook card, I'm too lazy to write a navy factbook.

I remembered that right before I went to bed.

Now, is there any other way I have made a fool out myself?

Joining the TS maybe?

[Mazanteria]

I assumed you didn't have one because you already had the space one.Well, you know what they say about assumptions.



I remembered that right before I went to bed.

Now, is there any other way I have made a fool out myself?

Joining the TS maybe?

Git REKT.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

Git REKT.

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

[Epsilon Aquarii]

Git REKT.

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

I mean he's got a point...

[Fascistisk State]

Git REKT.

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

Git REKT

[Zaurell]

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

Git REKT

Darned whippersnappers can't even spell "Get wrecked".

[Mazanteria]

Git REKT.

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

I'm sorry, do you not understand the underwater acoustics of the Med? If you have nuclear-powered subs, and you plan to use them in the Mediterranean, then you're fucked against my diesel-electric Kilo-class subs from Russia. The Med is such a difficult place to fight anti-submarine warfare that I'm surprised you think you can win. Also, mines? You know those work both ways right? Most modern mines can be placed at the seabed, set on an autonomous mode so that the mine can seek out its own targets, and basically launch a torpedo against a vessel. The US Navy has this technology, and has had the tech since the freaking nineties! What makes you think I haven't done so already? C'mon man, I'm a military brat. You simply can not win.

Also, what strategic locations? Show me, and I will tell you whether or not you are a good tactician.

[The Hook Islands]

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

I'm sorry, do you not understand the underwater acoustics of the Med? If you have nuclear-powered subs, and you plan to use them in the Mediterranean, then you're fucked against my diesel-electric Kilo-class subs from Russia. The Med is such a difficult place to fight anti-submarine warfare that I'm surprised you think you can win. Also, mines? You know those work both ways right? Most modern mines can be placed at the seabed, set on an autonomous mode so that the mine can seek out its own targets, and basically launch a torpedo against a vessel. The US Navy has this technology, and has had the tech since the freaking nineties! What makes you think I haven't done so already? C'mon man, I'm a military brat. You simply can not win.

Also, what strategic locations? Show me, and I will tell you whether or not you are a good tactician.

The Strait of Gibraltar and the Suez Canal. Answered the question for him because why not?

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

Says the one whose navy we can easily trap in the Mediterranean with a few wolfpacks and mines in strategic locations.

I'm sorry, do you not understand the underwater acoustics of the Med? If you have nuclear-powered subs, and you plan to use them in the Mediterranean, then you're fucked against my diesel-electric Kilo-class subs from Russia. The Med is such a difficult place to fight anti-submarine warfare that I'm surprised you think you can win. Also, mines? You know those work both ways right? Most modern mines can be placed at the seabed, set on an autonomous mode so that the mine can seek out its own targets, and basically launch a torpedo against a vessel. The US Navy has this technology, and has had the tech since the freaking nineties! What makes you think I haven't done so already? C'mon man, I'm a military brat. You simply can not win.

Also, what strategic locations? Show me, and I will tell you whether or not you are a good tactician.

We have no nuclear U-boats, our U-boats are diesel with AIP systems to make them even more silent (right in our navy fact book, a renamed type 212 u-boat). Also we don't we to be in the Med, only keep you from getting out. Which is easily since there are only two exits to it.

The Strait of Gibraltar(14 km) and the Suez Canal(200m). Answered the question for him because why not?

We just have to stop your ships from exiting those two places and your navy is useless. Your ships can't fire far enough to hit Prussia while plans from aircraft carriers have to deal with our Austrian AA guns, SAMs, and fighters.

[Mazanteria]

I'm sorry, do you not understand the underwater acoustics of the Med? If you have nuclear-powered subs, and you plan to use them in the Mediterranean, then you're fucked against my diesel-electric Kilo-class subs from Russia. The Med is such a difficult place to fight anti-submarine warfare that I'm surprised you think you can win. Also, mines? You know those work both ways right? Most modern mines can be placed at the seabed, set on an autonomous mode so that the mine can seek out its own targets, and basically launch a torpedo against a vessel. The US Navy has this technology, and has had the tech since the freaking nineties! What makes you think I haven't done so already? C'mon man, I'm a military brat. You simply can not win.

Also, what strategic locations? Show me, and I will tell you whether or not you are a good tactician.

The Strait of Gibraltar and the Suez Canal. Answered the question for him because why not?

Question: Did Prussia or you suddenly take control of those two areas, because I'm sure the United Kingdom and Egypt, respectively, would not appreciate that. If they exist in this reality, I'm assuming. They do at least in mine. So continuing on, two foreign nations encroaching on other sovereign countries turf never ended well. Look at Italy and Germany attacking Great Britain. Who won? What I should say is that although you have a valid point, it is voided by other entities who would be quite upset if someone started laying mines in their territorial waters. Also, what about Spain and Morocco? Or other nations around the globe? Thousands of internationally owned and/or operated vessels pass through those two points on the Mediterranean every day. Those same vessels would become massive political headaches if they were to suddenly blow up and sink by your own damn mines.

My point still stands.

[Mazanteria]

We have no nuclear subs, our subs are diesel with AIP systems to make them even more silent (right in our navy fact book). Also we don't we to be in the Med, only keep you from getting out. Which is easily since there are only two exits to it.

To be honest, I checked afterwards, so I know. Still...

We just have to stop your ships from exiting those two places and your navy is useless. Your ships can't fire far enough to hit Prussia while plans from aircraft carriers have to deal with our Austrian AA guns, SAMs, and fighters.

Long-range weapons are my specialty.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

We just have to stop your ships from exiting those two places and your navy is useless. Your ships can't fire far enough to hit Prussia while plans from aircraft carriers have to deal with our Austrian AA guns, SAMs, and fighters.

Long-range weapons are my specialty.

It's ours too, and its counter measures.

The Strait of Gibraltar and the Suez Canal. Answered the question for him because why not?

Question: Did Prussia or you suddenly take control of those two areas, because I'm sure the United Kingdom and Egypt, respectively, would not appreciate that. If they exist in this reality, I'm assuming. They do at least in mine. So continuing on, two foreign nations encroaching on other sovereign countries turf never ended well. Look at Italy and Germany attacking Great Britain. Who won? What I should say is that although you have a valid point, it is voided by other entities who would be quite upset if someone started laying mines in their territorial waters. Also, what about Spain and Morocco? Or other nations around the globe? Thousands of internationally owned and/or operated vessels pass through those two points on the Mediterranean every day. Those same vessels would become massive political headaches if they were to suddenly blow up and sink by your own damn mines.

My point still stands.

The Hook Islands and me are both part of NATO which in this universe (The one Prussia, Hook, New Aeros, HE, and Fastick are in for this rp) has at least lost France to the HE. As long as we don't attack British ships we can use that relationship to let us do it. For the Suez, we could ask them to not let any armed ship through of any nation, and keep a wolfpack based around there paying triple for supplies. If an armed ship does come through, immediately sink it and offer compensation to the Egyptians. You're right that mines can't be used in those shipping lanes though. We'd have to send Meerwolfen on mine missions to your lanes or near your naval bases using their AIP and deep diving ability. Each one carries 30 mines so just one getting through can cause a lot of damage.

[Mazanteria]

The Hook Islands and me are both part of NATO which in this universe has at least lost France to the HE. As long as we don't attack British ships we can use that relationship to let us do it. For the Suez, we could ask them to not let any armed ship through of any nation, and keep a wolfpack based around there paying triple for supplies. If an armed ship does come through, immediately sink it and offer compensation to the Egyptians. You're right that mines can't be used in those shipping lanes though. We'd have to send Meerwolfen on mine missions to your lanes or near your naval bases using their AIP and deep diving ability. Each one carries 30 mines so just one getting through can cause a lot of damage.

That... May be a problem... And I don't mean your tactics. I mean NATO. Mazanteria is technically part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and has been since 1967. I know, I know, factbook does not say that. Remember, still work in progress. Anyways, your alliance with the British may help you in some case; the Egyptians won't be so easily swayed. I know, wankiness is about to be told, but due to a "near constant state of war" and Egypt being my neighbor and all, I can just bully them into fighting off your ships. Even if they can not successfully defeat a task force, I'm always nearby to help.

Now, for long-range weaponry, I have something special for you buddy. It is called the XMAL-206 Streaker, a modified Tahoe missile from Quavara, which is known to be quite deadly and effective. No normal countermeasure can stop a two-meter long Tungsten rod going at near eight times the speed of sound. The XMAL-206 has been miniaturized to fit onto a normal F-15E size/type aircraft, which means it is very, very effective in being deployed rapidly. So, basically, I hope you brought your big boy pants, because I'm not screwing around in this war.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

The Hook Islands and me are both part of NATO which in this universe has at least lost France to the HE. As long as we don't attack British ships we can use that relationship to let us do it. For the Suez, we could ask them to not let any armed ship through of any nation, and keep a wolfpack based around there paying triple for supplies. If an armed ship does come through, immediately sink it and offer compensation to the Egyptians. You're right that mines can't be used in those shipping lanes though. We'd have to send Meerwolfen on mine missions to your lanes or near your naval bases using their AIP and deep diving ability. Each one carries 30 mines so just one getting through can cause a lot of damage.

That... May be a problem... And I don't mean your tactics. I mean NATO. Mazanteria is technically part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and has been since 1967. I know, I know, factbook does not say that. Remember, still work in progress. Anyways, your alliance with the British may help you in some case; the Egyptians won't be so easily swayed. I know, wankiness is about to be told, but due to a "near constant state of war" and Egypt being my neighbor and all, I can just bully them into fighting off your ships. Even if they can not successfully defeat a task force, I'm always nearby to help.

Now, for long-range weaponry, I have something special for you buddy. It is called the XMAL-206 Streaker, a modified Tahoe missile from Quavara, which is known to be quite deadly and effective. No normal countermeasure can stop a two-meter long Tungsten rod going at near eight times the speed of sound. The XMAL-206 has been miniaturized to fit onto a normal F-15E size/type aircraft, which means it is very, very effective in being deployed rapidly. So, basically, I hope you brought your big boy pants, because I'm not screwing around in this war.

The next NATO meeting is going to be awkward.

Now on to Egypt. I have the carrot and you the stick. What do you mean by bully? Prussia has many strengths and it could try to alleviate your bully attempts short of you declaring war on them, which has its own problems. Plus we could offer them future support against you.

Nice missile, but it has to get past our XLV-1 defender lasers(name not in factbooks, is just listed as anti-missile laser). The laser goes out for quite a few kilometers and causes vibrations in the missile or plane that it hits until the object rips itself apart. The fun thing about it; the faster the object is, the more vibrations the laser causes. (Based off the USAF anti missile laser.)

[Mazanteria]

That... May be a problem... And I don't mean your tactics. I mean NATO. Mazanteria is technically part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and has been since 1967.


The next NATO meeting is going to be awkward.

Now on to Egypt. I have the carrot and you the stick. What do you mean by bully? Prussia has many strengths and it could try to alleviate your bully attempts short of you declaring war on them, which has its own problems. Plus we could offer them future support against you.

Nice missile, but it has to get past our XLV-1 defender lasers(name not in factbooks, is just listed as anti-missile laser). The laser goes out for quite a few kilometers and causes vibrations in the missile or plane that it hits until the object rips itself apart. The fun thing about it; the faster the object is, the more vibrations the laser causes. (Based off the USAF anti missile laser.)

NATO. You really think it has not been awkward in any previous meeting? Remember, furries. Practically half of NATO hates me, but only allows me because I have massive experience in war. Also, oil.

Now, your laser may seem a credible threat, but due realize that the Tungsten rod is fired out at about thirty kilometers. When first launched, it is going close to eleven, maybe twelve times the speed of sound? Then it slows to eight after a short period, yet I still doubt your little flashlight can effectively destroy something like that. You say it is based of America's airborne laser, right? The AL-1, a modified Boeing 747-400, which is currently mothballed? Dude, firing that thing used up so much energy, I would be surprised if they could fire it more than four or five times. I'm sorry, but there is no way you have put nuclear power into all your ships, because after a few potshots at incoming missiles, you will need to recharge your power to fire it again. Lasers basically focus light energy into a beam, which is then magnified in terms of strength and then directed towards a target. This requires a ton of energy, quite literally. You have to have a constant power source, otherwise you are simply wasting fuel meant to run your ships' propellers. Now, I admit I may have my science wrong, so do correct me if I am.

[The Army Republic of Prussia]

Now on to Egypt. I have the carrot and you the stick. What do you mean by bully? Prussia has many strengths and it could try to alleviate your bully attempts short of you declaring war on them, which has its own problems. Plus we could offer them future support against you.

Nice missile, but it has to get past our XLV-1 defender lasers(name not in factbooks, is just listed as anti-missile laser). The laser goes out for quite a few kilometers and causes vibrations in the missile or plane that it hits until the object rips itself apart. The fun thing about it; the faster the object is, the more vibrations the laser causes. (Based off the USAF anti missile laser.)

NATO. You really think it has not been awkward in any previous meeting? Remember, furries. Practically half of NATO hates me, but only allows me because I have massive experience in war. Also, oil.

Now, your laser may seem a credible threat, but due realize that the Tungsten rod is fired out at about thirty kilometers. When first launched, it is going close to eleven, maybe twelve times the speed of sound? Then it slows to eight after a short period, yet I still doubt your little flashlight can effectively destroy something like that. You say it is based of America's airborne laser, right? The AL-1, a modified Boeing 747-400, which is currently mothballed? Dude, firing that thing used up so much energy, I would be surprised if they could fire it more than four or five times. I'm sorry, but there is no way you have put nuclear power into all your ships, because after a few potshots at incoming missiles, you will need to recharge your power to fire it again. Lasers basically focus light energy into a beam, which is then magnified in terms of strength and then directed towards a target. This requires a ton of energy, quite literally. You have to have a constant power source, otherwise you are simply wasting fuel meant to run your ships' propellers. Now, I admit I may have my science wrong, so do correct me if I am.

Funny enough be we would one of the nations that didn't hate you because Prussian ideology is against racism and speciesm. Also many NATO members also hate us for WW2(we didn't have any nazies) and being liberal fascists that suppress democracy movements in our nation, we just have a lot of big guns, hate communism, and made the perfect bluffer. We'd be brothers if Zeanbia hadn't stolen our land.

As for the laser, this nation is based a few years in the future where the batteries have shrunk as well as the power needs. Plus when I said based on the USAF, I meant the concept of it. Our laser is a different beast than it since it doesn't target hard to kill ballistic missiles so it has less power needs. As for what it can kill, this thread explains lasers in depth. For 100 KW, a laser can affect aircraft and cruise missiles at short range and UAVs at long range. For hundreds of KWs, the laser can affect aircraft, cruise missiles, and artillery shells at long range. For a MW, the laser can affect a ballistics missile. I have no idea what they mean by range, and I assume affect means to destroy in this case.

Our Zeppelin and ship lasers are on the lower end of the hundreds KW scale while ground based lasers may go from the higher hundreds of KE scale to the MW scale.

[Hydraic Empire]

I would like to note (on a completely different topic) for anyone who wishes to capture my citizens or convince them to revolt:

The main body is loyal to the last man. The conquered go through the Lazarus Programne (also known as the Rebirth Programne) which basically turns them into a whole new person with all the memories and knowledge of the host.

And

Finally