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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:27 am

What would my TG mean?

A change of heart? Me supporting Ganos?
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:42 am

Flauc wrote:What would my TG mean?

A change of heart? Me supporting Ganos?


What TG? Care to share?

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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:42 am

Significance wrote:
Flauc wrote:What would my TG mean?

A change of heart? Me supporting Ganos?


What TG? Care to share?


The one I posted on the IC.. I meant the message to Ganos.
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:48 am

Flauc wrote:
Significance wrote:
What TG? Care to share?


The one I posted on the IC.. I meant the message to Ganos.


Well getting peacekeeping troops into Menthi might be a little difficult.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:54 am

Flauc wrote:
Significance wrote:
What TG? Care to share?


The one I posted on the IC.. I meant the message to Ganos.


Oh ok. This should be interesting. Your supporting the 'fascists' I see. There seems to be more than two sides to this you know. For instance, while my country is not a fan of communism/socialism, neither do we support the nationalists. We are more on the side of the Bull than any other. We also have our main hate at Parsoh, not Ganos. I can't wait to see the who other nations support/hate.

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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:02 am

Why would it be hard if Ganos helps me land them?
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Postby Buja » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:04 am

Flauc wrote:Why would it be hard if Ganos helps me land them?

Why would they help you land?

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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:06 am

Flauc wrote:Why would it be hard if Ganos helps me land them?


Well, if you want to land anything much more than a small force in Menthi, you're going to have to use a deepwater dock. That means either Parsoh docks or Quoris City.

Parsoh is cut off following Significance's attacks on the tunnels. Caracasus will not let you land troops to march through to Menthi in support of Ganos.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:08 am

Buja wrote:
Flauc wrote:Why would it be hard if Ganos helps me land them?

Why would they help you land?


He want Ganos and him to be allies. Although I doubt it from what little I know of Ganos, Ganos doesn't seem to be behind the nationalists, so I doubt they'll work with Flauc to make the nationalists take power. Just my theory though, have to wait for Ganos to respond.

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Postby Buja » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:09 am

Let's not overwhelm Ganos.

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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:13 am

Oh btw. I'm planning to write a brief lore in terms of role play for my nation. This will be in my Factbook. Come read if your interested.

Also, where is the Iberis Penisular in the world. It'll dictate some things.

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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:23 am

Ugh, you guys are misunderstanding so much..

Flauc is in support of the nationalists, but they won't use violence on Karthos. We just don't like Karthos taking power.

Also, Carcasus, on what basis will Carcasus remove my allowance to transport through your nation? It's not like your nation intercepts every message I send to foreign nations. Then I can ask Malsti and maybe do a coup d' etat in their capital while I'm at it (just kidding).

Plus, we are not supporting Ganos. Well, we are *kinda*. We just want to ensure that no Macheteros are running around, 'enforcing' laws by murder. We want to keep internal violence at a low, since it's probably gonna make us have problems in the elections in Menthi. Plus, we want Ganos to hand Menthi their independence back at some time, and will use violence if they deny it.

Well, I don't think I'm putting strain on Ganos. He can respond whenever he wants.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:28 am

Flauc wrote:Ugh, you guys are misunderstanding so much..

Flauc is in support of the nationalists, but they won't use violence on Karthos. We just don't like Karthos taking power.

Also, Carcasus, on what basis will Carcasus remove my allowance to transport through your nation? It's not like your nation intercepts every message I send to foreign nations. Then I can ask Malsti and maybe do a coup d' etat in their capital while I'm at it (just kidding).

Plus, we are not supporting Ganos. Well, we are *kinda*. We just want to ensure that no Macheteros are running around, 'enforcing' laws by murder. We want to keep internal violence at a low, since it's probably gonna make us have problems in the elections in Menthi. Plus, we want Ganos to hand Menthi their independence back at some time, and will use violence if they deny it.

Well, I don't think I'm putting strain on Ganos. He can respond whenever he wants.


I never said you were violent, I just meant your putting a very interesting point of view across. Any socialist nations who find out your plans are likely not going to be happy. With one hand you want peace for Menthi, on the other, you sound corrupt. And of like Ganos lol.

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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:55 am

Flauc wrote:Ugh, you guys are misunderstanding so much..

Flauc is in support of the nationalists, but they won't use violence on Karthos. We just don't like Karthos taking power.

Also, Carcasus, on what basis will Carcasus remove my allowance to transport through your nation? It's not like your nation intercepts every message I send to foreign nations. Then I can ask Malsti and maybe do a coup d' etat in their capital while I'm at it (just kidding).

Plus, we are not supporting Ganos. Well, we are *kinda*. We just want to ensure that no Macheteros are running around, 'enforcing' laws by murder. We want to keep internal violence at a low, since it's probably gonna make us have problems in the elections in Menthi. Plus, we want Ganos to hand Menthi their independence back at some time, and will use violence if they deny it.

Well, I don't think I'm putting strain on Ganos. He can respond whenever he wants.


The basis would be because we don't like the idea of several thousand soldiers whose allegiance is unknown to us running around in an unstable country right on our doorstep.... not too unreasonable I think.
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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:04 am

Caracasus wrote:
Flauc wrote:Ugh, you guys are misunderstanding so much..

Flauc is in support of the nationalists, but they won't use violence on Karthos. We just don't like Karthos taking power.

Also, Carcasus, on what basis will Carcasus remove my allowance to transport through your nation? It's not like your nation intercepts every message I send to foreign nations. Then I can ask Malsti and maybe do a coup d' etat in their capital while I'm at it (just kidding).

Plus, we are not supporting Ganos. Well, we are *kinda*. We just want to ensure that no Macheteros are running around, 'enforcing' laws by murder. We want to keep internal violence at a low, since it's probably gonna make us have problems in the elections in Menthi. Plus, we want Ganos to hand Menthi their independence back at some time, and will use violence if they deny it.

Well, I don't think I'm putting strain on Ganos. He can respond whenever he wants.


The basis would be because we don't like the idea of several thousand soldiers whose allegiance is unknown to us running around in an unstable country right on our doorstep.... not too unreasonable I think.


We could say we have a reason:

Ganos has given us the chance to begin peacekeeping operations in Menthi to prevent violence.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:17 am

I did it. It's not the best but you should understand my nation better.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=sig ... /id=612734

It also points out where I am in the world, just so you guys don't get confused.

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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:47 am

Significance wrote:I did it. It's not the best but you should understand my nation better.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=sig ... /id=612734

It also points out where I am in the world, just so you guys don't get confused.


Thanks a lot for that Significance, it helps considerably.

For additional info, here's Caracasus:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=car ... /id=546242
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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:57 am

I'm gonna write my history about in a few weeks.

Prepare for Nihonjin and anti-communism, coup d' etat and Korean guys escaping to islands.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:16 am

Caracasus wrote:
Significance wrote:I did it. It's not the best but you should understand my nation better.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=sig ... /id=612734

It also points out where I am in the world, just so you guys don't get confused.


Thanks a lot for that Significance, it helps considerably.

For additional info, here's Caracasus:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=car ... /id=546242


Thanks for the compliment and your information, although you did a far better job at explaining than I did.

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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:20 am

Also, I'd like to ask:

If I can't land on Ganosian Menthi if I have support from Ganosia, then why does he even have troops in Menthi? If the only ports are two, then why can he land thousands of soldiers and I can't?
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:25 am

Flauc wrote:Also, I'd like to ask:

If I can't land on Ganosian Menthi if I have support from Ganosia, then why does he even have troops in Menthi? If the only ports are two, then why can he land thousands of soldiers and I can't?


I don't really know myself. Two explanations. He tried to through Caracus but failed, as shown by one of Caracus' post. Or, he did what I did and used landing craft to ship whatever was on his ships to shore, which would take slightly longer than just going to a deep water port.

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Postby Caracasus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:17 pm

Flauc wrote:Also, I'd like to ask:

If I can't land on Ganosian Menthi if I have support from Ganosia, then why does he even have troops in Menthi? If the only ports are two, then why can he land thousands of soldiers and I can't?


He landed troops before Significance blew up the tunnel.
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:22 pm

Caracasus wrote:
Flauc wrote:Also, I'd like to ask:

If I can't land on Ganosian Menthi if I have support from Ganosia, then why does he even have troops in Menthi? If the only ports are two, then why can he land thousands of soldiers and I can't?


He landed troops before Significance blew up the tunnel.


I don't know why but the fact that that's now a critical plot point makes me smile.

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Postby Flauc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:32 pm

I will kill Penny and the other guy or whatever now, I swear. :twisted:

Just kidding.


I see.. but Carcasus, we have good relations, help me :)

By the way, I'm still not helping Ganos in Menthi by sending troops there. If I wanted to, I could use them against it. Basically, I'm trying to create semi-friendly relations as a base of negotiation regarding Menthi.

Plus, do you guys not want international investigations on crimes in Menthi?!
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Postby Significance » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:38 pm

Flauc wrote:I will kill Penny and the other guy or whatever now, I swear. :twisted:

Just kidding.


Lol. Governor Peace, Advisor Penny and Advisor Borris. The one you want is Penny, she gave the order to the submarines. You can possible blame Significance too, because that attack couldn't have been rebels. If Peace had had his way people would just assume rebels due to his plan being more covert. But of course someone didn't listen to orders and now the blame game begins.

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