OOC: Things to do in Caracasus before you die (MT/PMT/Dip)

[Caracasus]

Well, I better clear a few things as well.

Those that got married in Tekeristan (Marriage supplies citizenship), had a child in Tekeristan (again), or are born in Tekeristan (again) would not be removed. The remaining few are not immediately safe, but there are a few avenues there.

Those remaining have a few options.

1.) Apply for refugee status, granting instant protection
2.) Apply for citizenship
3.) Be sent to nations like Caracasus/Korva, not right to Carosi. This is also applicable.

How's that make things work?

Better but really, really not great. The refugees from Carosi come from a terrifying dictatorship where every facet of authority may arbitarily decide to have them imprisoned and killed - if they're lucky it's just them that gets killed. If they're unlucky it could be their friends and family too.

They've had to leave behind people in Carosi, people who will almost certainly suffer if attention is bought to light on them.

They finally get to a safe haven, when suddenly it is decided that due to the actions of the very regieme they managed to flee, they're being kicked out, and uprooted.

I would not be surprised of more than a few committed suicide. Sorry mate, but it was a really bad move. As a rule, think about who your actions are going to hurt the most.

[Significance]

I might change my nation's 'type' a bit of times, so just refer me as Flauc for now.

???

I thought we were talking about a name for you capital city, not what people refer to you as. Interesting plot point actually, of you want to insult our nation, simply call it Sig, it's a massive insult in our country. However, it's ok to use it in the OOC.

[Tekeristan]

It was a terrible move indeed. Don't know why I followed, but I guess I did. Another Oehiton-like flop.

I guess I should take action to 'salvage' such. Re-open the borders, compensate harmed families (Outside of Carosi, or that money goes straight to Carosi gov't), and an official apology. Something to do, I suppose. I'm going to try changing perspectives here a bit.

[Significance]

It was a terrible move indeed. Don't know why I followed, but I guess it did. Another Oehiton-like flop.

I guess I should take action to 'salvage' such. Re-open the borders, compensate harmed families (Outside of Carosi, or that money goes straight to Carosi gov't), and an official apology. Something to do, I suppose

Oh don't worry, I have plans for Advisor Penny to have massive flops. It's really going to screw over the country, and Peace is going to have a hard time cleaning up.

[Tekeristan]

It was a terrible move indeed. Don't know why I followed, but I guess it did. Another Oehiton-like flop.

I guess I should take action to 'salvage' such. Re-open the borders, compensate harmed families (Outside of Carosi, or that money goes straight to Carosi gov't), and an official apology. Something to do, I suppose

Oh don't worry, I have plans for Advisor Penny to have massive flops. It's really going to screw over the country, and Peace is going to have a hard time cleaning up.

Keeps things interesting I suppose, prevents me from being all 'good'. So there is that.

[Flauc]

Oh don't worry, I have plans for Advisor Penny to have massive flops. It's really going to screw over the country, and Peace is going to have a hard time cleaning up.

Keeps things interesting I suppose, prevents me from being all 'good'. So there is that.

Money going straight to an oppressive regime that has also occupied parts of Menthi.

Gee, I wonder what will they do with the money..

[Significance]

Oh don't worry, I have plans for Advisor Penny to have massive flops. It's really going to screw over the country, and Peace is going to have a hard time cleaning up.

Keeps things interesting I suppose, prevents me from being all 'good'. So there is that.

There can still be all good, just not how you'd think. Advisor Borris is my all good. Honestly if this meeting works outs, you'll understand. That man couldn't hurt a fly. Well, actually there's more to it than that. Hope you see.

[Tekeristan]

Keeps things interesting I suppose, prevents me from being all 'good'. So there is that.

Money going straight to an oppressive regime that has also occupied parts of Menthi.

Gee, I wonder what will they do with the money..

Did you even read what I said up there?

[Significance]

Money going straight to an oppressive regime that has also occupied parts of Menthi.

Gee, I wonder what will they do with the money..

Did you even read what I said up there?

Up there, where? I don't see anything up there.

Any Thomas the tank engine fans will get that joke.

[Significance]

Ok, can in just say the escort I met gave me a phone. Then I can move my own story arc along so tek will know I'm coming to the meeting.

[Tekeristan]

Assumptions being made out there on Tekeri's position with Ganos.

I'll address that whole thing in a moment.

[Tekeristan]

Released a lazy TG, will have to post the apology planned one later as I'm out of time.

[Caracasus]

Yeah, Caracasus is basically asserting Menthi's right to soverginty - main concern here is that with a collapse of Menthi, there'll be an inevitable war between Parsoh and Carosi, leading to more deaths.

[Significance]

I'm going to make assumptions again, this time worse. No offence, but I should of at least been able to make my phone call by now.

[Flauc]

I'm going to make assumptions again, this time worse. No offence, but I should of at least been able to make my phone call by now.

Wait for the person you want to help you to respond. Be patient, not everyone can be on the PC 24 hours a day.

Well, it is if you are waiting for someone. If not, assumptions..

[Significance]

I'm going to make assumptions again, this time worse. No offence, but I should of at least been able to make my phone call by now.

Wait for the person you want to help you to respond. Be patient, not everyone can be on the PC 24 hours a day.

Well, it is if you are waiting for someone. If not, assumptions..

I don't even know who it would be. Would be under Menthi as I'm talking to Menthian troops loyal to Ganos, or Ganos as they made the post of the troops being there.

[Flauc]

If you are in a city (if you are, idk) couldn't you use a payphone?

Or is Menthi so dirt poor they live in the 19th century?

[Caracasus]

If you are in a city (if you are, idk) couldn't you use a payphone?

Or is Menthi so dirt poor they live in the 19th century?

You can find expensive phones on the black market, often smuggled in from Caracasus or Parsoh.

[Significance]

If you are in a city (if you are, idk) couldn't you use a payphone?

Or is Menthi so dirt poor they live in the 19th century?

I could say they said use a payphone. That would work.

[Caracasus]

If you are in a city (if you are, idk) couldn't you use a payphone?

Or is Menthi so dirt poor they live in the 19th century?

I could say they said use a payphone. That would work.

Yep - that would. Payphones are common in Menthi's bars, restaurants and (weirdly - don't know why) churches.

[Significance]

I could say they said use a payphone. That would work.

Yep - that would. Payphones are common in Menthi's bars, restaurants and (weirdly - don't know why) churches.

Well, that gives more time to Ganos to respond then.

[Flauc]

So, the Pirates are asking Ganos Lao to finance them?

Ghosts of Oehition, here we go again..

[Ganos Lao]

Yep. No-one is coming out of this smelling of roses.

Saying that, I don't think Ganos is evil. Ganos is like the person who tries to compliment you, but ends up sounding insulting.

Insulting? Maybe, but that's because people don't intend on trying to understand that we really are complimenting. We are the good guys.

Also, OOCly, I can admit I have my own agenda. I want to make Menthi a territory of Ganosia, and then use it as a place for exciting storylines with y'all and my friends. I want to RP stuff set in a backwards, for lack of a better term, nation. Plus, it'll link up with my interests in Carosi, and I can mould the two together.

ICly, none of you knows this, of course.

And yes, we are not evil. If I wanted to be, I'd have just posted us being evil. Instead, we really do come in peace and we're trying our best. The problem is that y'all are either leftists or rightists. Ganosians are Hobbesians, and Hobbesianism does not believe in the left/right formula, believing the "wings should be clipped" as they hold back societies. Ganosian "colonialism" isn't even stereotypical colonialism. It is the equivalent to Canadians being colonialists and colonizing with tolerance and understanding.

Caracasus, I think it would be best if I controlled my sailors and all. Plus, the military handles armored vehicles and weapons, not some bloke hopped up on sea songs.



Trying to paint the Ganosian people as bloodthirsty rapists won't work. What are you going to do when we simply show evidence that none of that happened?

Fair enough - I can make alterations if you send me them. I did try to keep it as vague as possible for that reason - should be easily amended

You can do what you want, as long as anything major's cleared with me. ICly/OOCly, we/I both expected that it would not be easy to pacify Menthi. I'm just saying that it would seem silly to us ICly, especially considering our track record when dealing with people who do such things.

Caracasus, I think it would be best if I controlled my sailors and all. Plus, the military handles armored vehicles and weapons, not some bloke hopped up on sea songs.



Trying to paint the Ganosian people as bloodthirsty rapists won't work. What are you going to do when we simply show evidence that none of that happened?

Say you lied, it's your word against his. Also, on the matter of your posts, I would advise putting the spoiler bracket around it so if someone is scrolling it takes less time to skip your post. Like say if your trying to reach another post further down. Lastly, write a book honestly if you look writing that much, not in NS mind, I more mean in rl.

I think my style is just fine. I try to separate the post so each person I'm addressing knows what to reply to. And hey, we all have our reasons for coming on here.

Caracasus, I think it would be best if I controlled my sailors and all. Plus, the military handles armored vehicles and weapons, not some bloke hopped up on sea songs.



Trying to paint the Ganosian people as bloodthirsty rapists won't work. What are you going to do when we simply show evidence that none of that happened?

We say it is forged and we just make up fake scenes in the TV tower and say "lying bastards".

But I'm still thinking. I will also follow up a post with my agent adventures.

I hereby nullify by post a few weeks ago about the supposed liberation of Menthi, along with the encrypted message.

All I know is that Ganosian allies and people we've helped in other RPs would come out and proclaim that Ganosia is in the right.

Time to made Nanking-type propaganda in Flauc about Ganosians doing the stuff the Japanese did in Nanking in uhh... I think 1938?


I'm still thinking of it, but it is in unlikely. Probably some statement recognizing but not enouraging Menthian annexation.

Any capital idea names for Flauc (or Kankoku - Korea).

Very good, we would support that. They rule by force alone and don't even have traces of democracy in the nation they "bought". Caracaus had send thousands of tons of humanitarian aid to Menthi and never even though about the idea that they would now owe something to Caracaus or that this would give them the right to deprive them of elections or sovereignty. If Ganos would be moderately liberal they would leave the nation alone now. You can bet that they are as bloodthirsty as all other colonial powers.

You don't know much about Ganosia, Mal. The thing is that I'm focusing on dealing with all y'all first. I can't really post about how we would run Menthi because we're too busy trying not to be run out of it. Abishag hasn't even gotten the chance to make it all official yet. First, we don't rule by force. We are a democratic society. Everyone in Ganosia and her overseas territories votes regularly. We were once ruled by force, but we expelled the tyrants. Secondly, we do not deprive anyone. The goal is to establish a democratic government once everyone is off our backs. That's why we're trying to placate everyone. We want everyone to feel at peace with the situation. Thirdly, I haven't even officially stated Menthi would be a colony. For all any of you know, we may end up leaving anyway. Fourth, we are indeed liberal. There's a lot worse nations out there than me who could've ended up with Menthi.

And if we were bloodthirsty, you'd be reading posts explictly depicting this, not posts depicting us trying to go "can we all just get along?" the whole time.

Y'all ICly can believe what you want to. That's fine. I really do like reading your posts and getting to expand the "Ganosverse" further. But know that the truth will prevail, and either way, Ganosians are in the right and you are in the wrong.

tl;dr - Ganosia truly does mean peace, we're still formulating policy, please support peace and order. Make Menthi Great Again.

[Flauc]

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Well, you could have just brought it and let Carcasus and Malsti to steamroll inside Menthi when Parsoh leaves, hence beginning liberation.

You ICly made the situation worse for your nation - propaganda is depicting you as killers and the people of Menthi don't even want to be under your occupation - even if it is for, let's say, a half year.

I would not welcome Russian occupation if they said "Oh, it's only for a few years."

Not really saying that you are in the wrong.
If I were you, instead of being all fluffy, i'd do the same but I would 'dispose' of some 'unwanted' individuals.

Anyways, here's a joke a friend of mine from Finland told me when he asked his dad this:

"Dad, would we learn Russian if Russia occupied Finland?"

"Probably, but we would also learn how to use machine guns."

[Tekeristan]

I think it's a little to soon to make any judgements on the Ganioan occupation.