OOC: Things to do in Caracasus before you die (MT/PMT/Dip)

[Tekeristan]

Due to increased attention being required with both real life work, my current region, D&D group, and friends, I'm afraid I'm going to have to withdraw from this for the time being. I'm uncertain of when I can continue in the future.

As for my various elements..
Roman returns to Caracasus safely..
Helping Hands also returns to Caracasus after dumping its materials in Karthos on its way out (Not the security equipment).. No actual ties to any human smuggling and such. They willingly share their own video footage of their side, using established security cameras..
Tekeri ships are protected by small groups of PMC's and rear-facing torpedo drag nets..
On going investigation and trials in Tekeri to locate criminals of the old regime.. To be tried in international court..
Diplomatic meeting is still up to whomever..

I apologize, will be here for any further questions.

[Flauc]

So basically, all of that happens but you won't be posting a lot anymore?

Oh well, bugger.

Anyways, time to begin destroying Karthos.

Carcasus, what would your reaction be if a Carcasus citizen died in Karthos as part of the communist support mission? Is it condemnation? Because to be realistic, you can't be angry at, let's say Flauc, if we accidentally/on purpose hurt a Carcasus citizen - after all, he is in a war zone/disputed territory.

[Significance]

Speaking of the meeting....was anyone going anyway lol. Also, expect a post soon, sorry for the delay, I don't have an excuse, I've just been lazy recently.

[Significance]

Ok post made. Btw, if tek really isn't able to post, perhaps the responsibility of the meeting can be passed on the someone else.

[Caracasus]

So basically, all of that happens but you won't be posting a lot anymore?

Oh well, bugger.

Anyways, time to begin destroying Karthos.

Carcasus, what would your reaction be if a Carcasus citizen died in Karthos as part of the communist support mission? Is it condemnation? Because to be realistic, you can't be angry at, let's say Flauc, if we accidentally/on purpose hurt a Carcasus citizen - after all, he is in a war zone/disputed territory.

It'd completely depend on the circumstances. Generally speaking, armed soldiers turning up in Karthos isn't going to make Caracasus happy, but declaring war over it is very unlikely.

[Significance]

I cant post anymore about Peace and company till I know what's happening to the meeting. While I know tek wishes for someone to carry on the process, it seems no on wishes to take the reins. While some may suggest I'd be an excellent candidate, I feel my agenda would not be best for a meeting where we are trying to solve problems, not create them.

My personal vote therefore goes to Watersville. For while not many trust them (just going to say I personally trust them) they would want peace on the penisular, which is the driving force for discussion. Tek also would likely trust Watersville, as they both are trying to supply aid on the penisular, and peacefully.

This doesn't mean Waterville has to do the meeting, but tek could be said to of asked them to do it, and then watersville decides the next move.

What's everyone else's thoughts on the matter and why?

[Flauc]

I don't think Wattersville should be chosen because they will most likely not allow you to use guns, and I don't think any world leader would go to a meeting with no security in his mind.

Well, Nan Jiwa could host it, but we would also use our position as the host nation against everyone else.

[Significance]

I don't think Wattersville should be chosen because they will most likely not allow you to use guns, and I don't think any world leader would go to a meeting with no security in his mind.

Well, Nan Jiwa could host it, but we would also use our position as the host nation against everyone else.

I'm fine if you wish to do that, I just wouldn't want to do it myself.

What I believe, as in being fair to everyone, and what my nation believes, achieving its own agenda, are two different things. I just couldn't do it realistically without feeling guilty.

If you can do it, I don't mind what you do, as long as I don't have to feel guilty.

[Flauc]

OK, then I will invite people to Nan Jiwa, and I won't spit the OOC reason out, because I have decided of a reason, this one:

"The Communists of Tekeristan will not be able to keep a neutral stance in the meeting, and might even attempt to conduct assassinations or intimidations against their political opponents in the Iberis Peninsula. Thus, we invite you to debate in a neutral ground in Nan Jiwa."

Ofcourse, that is a VERY VERY short statement - it will be bigger.

[Watersville]

I cant post anymore about Peace and company till I know what's happening to the meeting. While I know tek wishes for someone to carry on the process, it seems no on wishes to take the reins. While some may suggest I'd be an excellent candidate, I feel my agenda would not be best for a meeting where we are trying to solve problems, not create them.

My personal vote therefore goes to Watersville. For while not many trust them (just going to say I personally trust them) they would want peace on the penisular, which is the driving force for discussion. Tek also would likely trust Watersville, as they both are trying to supply aid on the penisular, and peacefully.

This doesn't mean Waterville has to do the meeting, but tek could be said to of asked them to do it, and then watersville decides the next move.

What's everyone else's thoughts on the matter and why?

I think that you have a good idea, however, I will warn you that guns are strictly forbidden for everyone, and I mean everyone. Also, like you said, there are many who do not trust me, so we feel that meetings in Watersville wouldn't nessesarily bring anything to the situation.

[Flauc]

TL;DR:

Watersville is a death trap.

Come to Nan Jiwa.

[Significance]

I think that you have a good idea, however, I will warn you that guns are strictly forbidden for everyone, and I mean everyone. Also, like you said, there are many who do not trust me, so we feel that meetings in Watersville wouldn't nessesarily bring anything to the situation.

Flauc mentioned your hatred of guns problem, it's why flauc suggested himself to host a new one. It was just my idea of who could take it forward, but your best just seeing what other people think and decide if you personally think you doing it would be a good idea. If you don't want to do it, flauc will probably do it, unless others suggest themselves.

[Flauc]

Can someone explain to why were the Jesuits expelled? Are they affected by something similar to antisemitism?

[Cardulan]

I don't think Wattersville should be chosen because they will most likely not allow you to use guns, and I don't think any world leader would go to a meeting with no security in his mind.

Well, Nan Jiwa could host it, but we would also use our position as the host nation against everyone else.

This sounds very good. Your delegates will not get assassinated if the summit does not take place in Watersville, because in Watersville only criminals have guns. If the summit does take place in Flauc Cardulan can participate.

[Significance]

I don't think Wattersville should be chosen because they will most likely not allow you to use guns, and I don't think any world leader would go to a meeting with no security in his mind.

Well, Nan Jiwa could host it, but we would also use our position as the host nation against everyone else.

This sounds very good. Your delegates will not get assassinated if the summit does not take place in Watersville, because in Watersville only criminals have guns. If the summit does take place in Flauc Cardulan can participate.

Well that's another vote, I think you could say, for flauc. I'd participate too, so we just have to hope others will too.

[Caracasus]

Can someone explain to why were the Jesuits expelled? Are they affected by something similar to antisemitism?

Carosi has its own motives and motivations. It is, perhaps, possible that the leader saw them as a threat in some way.

[Flauc]

There we go.

When nations begin posting their attendances, we will have a.. uhh... communist cleaning campaign. We brush them with 'soap' and 'clean them up'.

I don't know if it will count as a war crime in this RP (specifically, a war crime in the conflict), but that is that.

[Caracasus]

There we go.

When nations begin posting their attendances, we will have a.. uhh... communist cleaning campaign. We brush them with 'soap' and 'clean them up'.

I don't know if it will count as a war crime in this RP (specifically, a war crime in the conflict), but that is that.

It might count as an act of war! You'd be executing diplomats.....

[Tekeristan]

Funny thing is Tekeri is obviously not communist, with a large free private market.
Pretty tarnishing to spout easily disproved lies as foreign policy,

[Significance]

There we go.

When nations begin posting their attendances, we will have a.. uhh... communist cleaning campaign. We brush them with 'soap' and 'clean them up'.

I don't know if it will count as a war crime in this RP (specifically, a war crime in the conflict), but that is that.

I will post about attending soon, however, I hope you realise I will be bringing up points such as democratic menthi elections and revenge on Parsoh (which is secretly my way of puppeting Parsoh).

While we are closer to friends rather than enemies now, our agendas may clash in the future. Have fun.

[Flauc]

I won't be executing diplomats, I am not crazy, even if I am in the process of being evaluated for SACTO (Santiago Anti Communist Organization).

*shoots communist in line before continuing*

Flauc will sway/execute communists in Flauc to 'shut up' in the period of the meetings. Well, there aren't a lot of communists anyways, but you gotta make them shush. Basically, a Bodo League Massacre but in Flauc and in ultimate secrecy, not out in open fields.


@Tekeristan

Sure, it's capitalism. Flauc likes to spit out propaganda for 'purposes', since Cardulan hates Tekeristan too. Carcasus.. well.. they are neutral towars you.

[Tekeristan]

Tarnishing nonetheless.

[Significance]

Tarnishing nonetheless.

Well I don't hate you. You can be assured Significance will try to take the pressure off you, if only to put it on Parsoh to take them out.

While communism is frowned upon by us, if you are democratic we will happily look the other way. Significance prides itself on democracy, and freedom to choose, with capitalism seen as a symbol of that choice.

Our enemies are ones who stifle choice completely, which does sometimes mean communists, but mainly revolves around dictators. China for instance wouldn't be our best friend, because they stifle democracy.

Although ironically being a as I like to say 'constitutional empire', we aren't fully democratic ourselves, but my point stands.

But anyway, Parsoh is the main enemy to us.

[Tekeristan]

Tarnishing nonetheless.

Well I don't hate you. You can be assured Significance will try to take the pressure off you, if only to put it on Parsoh to take them out.

While communism is frowned upon by us, if you are democratic we will happily look the other way. Significance prides itself on democracy, and freedom to choose, with capitalism seen as a symbol of that choice.

Tekeri is very democratic and has a large capitalist market,

[Flauc]

Well I don't hate you. You can be assured Significance will try to take the pressure off you, if only to put it on Parsoh to take them out.

While communism is frowned upon by us, if you are democratic we will happily look the other way. Significance prides itself on democracy, and freedom to choose, with capitalism seen as a symbol of that choice.

Tekeri is very democratic and has a large capitalist market,

*sends in agents to make pro-communist riots to make you look pro communist*