Hiedenburghian -Bohemian peace summit

[Hardenburgh]

Here opens the Hiedenburghian - Bohemian peace summit where we will finalize the agreements regarding Bohemia and its post war situation

[NS Gregaria]

IC:

Gregaria will be sending Special Envoy Mr. John C. Rooke. We request the summit not begin formally until all concerned partied have arrived.

~ Secretary of State Nancy Munden

[Hardenburgh]

We will be sending our foreign minister Klaus Spilermann , our Defense minister , Mr J.k Effgett and our International development secretary Baron Von Harbermachen , the head of our armed forces Lord Maxheim will also be in attendance

[Northwest bohemia]

The Bohemian delegation will consist of ;

Bendict Von Carion - President

Carl echelheimer - Foreign secretary

Bernad Montissier - Defence minister

Albert Gotthiemer - Chancellor

Andreas Van Dam - Development secretary

General Peter Hesshalfen - Head of Bohemian armed forces

[Hiedenburgh-Hardenburg]

Hiedenburgh intends to attend the peace conference , it will send the following delegates ;

- Gerhard Sesselmyher - Foreign minister

- Admiral Gunter Hardmennburgh - Current head of armed forces

- John Spiezman - Minister of Internal affairs

[NS Gregaria]

OOC:

Question. I'm volunteering my services as the location of the summit. Does anybody have a problem with this?

[Vladenhok]

No , go ahead , we need a neutral host

I am sending my President , Minister for Foreign affairs and Home Minister

[NS Gregaria]

OOC:

In that case, provided nobody objects, please regard the summit as taking place in Gainesville, New District of Columbia, the United States.

[Hardenburgh]

The summit will commence tomorrow , parties not present will have to miss out , we can't leave this situation in limbo

[Reich1]

Representing Reich1 Futher and his cabinate are in the summit. And present the following terms:-
We as a nation thinks the peace teams should include at least:-

ARMY:-
-10,000 untrained soldiers (and a 500 reserve force)
-100 tanks
-300 vehicle's (land rovers , hummers , trucks ...)
-10 transport helicopters
-a ban should be placed on attack helicopters until further notice.
- 10 Maritime patrol aircraft
- 20 transport aircraft
- No fighters or bombers should be allowed until further notice.
- 2 patrol frigates
- 3 corvettes (once again , designed for patrol missions and border protection)
- 2 auxiliaries (designed to support the navy in its mission)
- 10 Augusta Westlands
- 1,000 marines
- LSD banned until further notice.
- Submarines banned until further notice
-Aircraft carriers banned until further notice
- Nukes and agent orange banned for ever.
- Any weapons which Hiedenburghian -Bohemian if holds now which excedes the limit should be distributed to all of us.
- Stop their weapons manufacturing and start supplying their armed forces ourselves (which they will pay for)

Reparations:-
- 7000 billion have to be paid by Hiedenburghian -Bohemian to us (And then will de distributed)

Goverment:-
- All of us will rule Hiedenburghian -Bohemian for a year and as they want every one will get 1 turn.
- Embassy will be set up in Hiedenburghian -Bohemian which will have right to question government decisions and government may not hold any secrets from our embassy.
- All of our citizens will have right to vote in there all elections.

PRODUCTION:-
1. Each of our allies will take what they want from Hiedenburghian -Bohemian.
2. During our rule of 5years 80% of total resource and production of Hiedenburghian -Bohemian will be of ours.
3. After that we will get 10% of the total production and resource for next 30 years.

LAND:-
- 30% of the total land of Hiedenburghian -Bohemian will be distributed between all of us.
- Our troops will be able to cross Hiedenburghian -Bohemian with out any trouble forever.
- No resistance movement should be there in country.

Foreign Relationships:-
- Will not be allowed to declare war on us.

[NS Gregaria]

IC:

Reich1's terms are those of barbarians seeking to levy tribute. The ability to take what you please, as you please? Forcible land removal? Perhaps it is you who should have been attacked. Your citizens voting in their election? Unacceptable bullshit. Nations such as yours are too dangerous.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

[Reich1]

IC:

Reich1's terms are those of barbarians seeking to levy tribute. The ability to take what you please, as you please? Forcible land removal? Perhaps it is you who should have been attacked. Your citizens voting in their election? Unacceptable bullshit. Nations such as yours are too dangerous.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

IC:
The terms I have laid are completely Fair and is just. It is a bit too harsh because of huge death on both sides the safety is the most important. Northwest bohemia have surrendered now but tomorrow it may declare war on us. At that time it will be another bloody war killing millions of people on both sides. So terms I laid will keep this peace long team. With out military Northwest bohemia wont attack us. And the treaty had been harsh due to fact that "Northwest bohemia" didn't surrendered till last moment which is the part when most death occurred. This terms may be harsh now but it will keep peace for ever.

-Futher Of Reich1

[Hardenburgh]

Here are the amendments we have decided to make

ARMY:-
-10,000 untrained soldiers (and a 500 reserve force) - we agree with this , in principle , however , the force should be highly trained and effective
-100 tanks - older less advanced vehicles
-300 vehicle's (land rovers , hummers , trucks ...) - yep thats fine
-10 transport helicopters - could we increase this to 20 - we see Bohemia supporting our regional operations
-a ban should be placed on attack helicopters until further notice. - good idea , they can be pesky little buggers
- 10 Maritime patrol aircraft - yep , could this even be increased to 20
- 20 transport aircraft - what about 50 , I fancy a free ride for my armed forces
- No fighters or bombers should be allowed until further notice. - yep
- 2 patrol frigates - yep
- 3 corvettes (once again , designed for patrol missions and border protection) - yep
- 2 auxiliaries (designed to support the navy in its mission) - yep
- 10 Augusta Westlands - that seems fine to me
- 1,000 marines - yes , they can complement the ground forces in the event of war
- LSD banned until further notice. - yes
- Submarines banned until further notice - thats fine
-Aircraft carriers banned until further noticeYep, we will review this decision in 30 years
- Nukes and agent orange banned for ever.yep , and it means that if they start manufacturing them we invade
- Any weapons which Bohemia if holds now which excedes the limit should be distributed to all of us.Agree , we need to rebuild our stockpiles anyway
- Stop their weapons manufacturing and start supplying their armed forces ourselves (which they will pay for)Provides some business for us and we can limit the size
- Ban anti-Aircraft defenses , so if they do attack again , bombing is made easy

Reparations:-
- 7000 billion have to be paid by Bohemia to us (And then will de distributed) If Hardenburgh is going to support this , cancel interest , otherwise its too much money

Goverment:-
- All of us will rule Bohemia for a year and as they want every one will get 1 turn.No , lets not do that ,we can set up a new cabinet with politicians we have chosen
- Embassy will be set up in Bohemia which will have right to question government decisions and government may not hold any secrets from our embassy.Thats more like it , before passing any legislation they can report to us
- All of our citizens will have right to vote in there all elections.thats taking it too far , and the elections would become a over long process - how about banning the political parties we dont like

PRODUCTION:-
1. Each of our allies will take what they want from Bohemia .no, no , no - we can't do that , we need to help rebuild the country we don't want to make the population want revenge - that could mean another war
2. During our rule of 5years 80% of total resource and production of Bohemia will be of ours.A) no rule , were not imperialists B) they should hand over materials , what about a more reasonable figure 40%?
3. After that we will get 10% of the total production and resource for next 30 years.I agree with that

LAND:-
- 30% of the total land of Bohemia will be distributed between all of us. Or , we create a set of Autonomous republics out of it , which are our satellite states /colonies/protectorates with their own administrative powers
- Our troops will be able to cross Bohemia with out any trouble forever.We should maintain a combined presence of 50,000 soldiers
- No resistance movement should be there in country.why we should maintain a presence of 50,000 soldiers

Foreign Relationships:-
- Will not be allowed to declare war on us.good idea
-we determine who they can forge alliances with
-If one of us goes to war , they support us in every way
-They do not align themselves with our enemies

[Reich1]

Here are the amendments we have decided to make

ARMY:-
-10,000 untrained soldiers (and a 500 reserve force) - we agree with this , in principle , however , the force should be highly trained and effective
-100 tanks - older less advanced vehicles
-300 vehicle's (land rovers , hummers , trucks ...) - yep thats fine
-10 transport helicopters - could we increase this to 20 - we see Bohemia supporting our regional operations
-a ban should be placed on attack helicopters until further notice. - good idea , they can be pesky little buggers
- 10 Maritime patrol aircraft - yep , could this even be increased to 20
- 20 transport aircraft - what about 50 , I fancy a free ride for my armed forces
- No fighters or bombers should be allowed until further notice. - yep
- 2 patrol frigates - yep
- 3 corvettes (once again , designed for patrol missions and border protection) - yep
- 2 auxiliaries (designed to support the navy in its mission) - yep
- 10 Augusta Westlands - that seems fine to me
- 1,000 marines - yes , they can complement the ground forces in the event of war
- LSD banned until further notice. - yes
- Submarines banned until further notice - thats fine
-Aircraft carriers banned until further noticeYep, we will review this decision in 30 years
- Nukes and agent orange banned for ever.yep , and it means that if they start manufacturing them we invade
- Any weapons which Bohemia if holds now which excedes the limit should be distributed to all of us.Agree , we need to rebuild our stockpiles anyway
- Stop their weapons manufacturing and start supplying their armed forces ourselves (which they will pay for)Provides some business for us and we can limit the size
- Ban anti-Aircraft defenses , so if they do attack again , bombing is made easy

Reparations:-
- 7000 billion have to be paid by Bohemia to us (And then will de distributed) If Hardenburgh is going to support this , cancel interest , otherwise its too much money

Goverment:-
- All of us will rule Bohemia for a year and as they want every one will get 1 turn.No , lets not do that ,we can set up a new cabinet with politicians we have chosen
- Embassy will be set up in Bohemia which will have right to question government decisions and government may not hold any secrets from our embassy.Thats more like it , before passing any legislation they can report to us
- All of our citizens will have right to vote in there all elections.thats taking it too far , and the elections would become a over long process - how about banning the political parties we dont like

PRODUCTION:-
1. Each of our allies will take what they want from Bohemia .no, no , no - we can't do that , we need to help rebuild the country we don't want to make the population want revenge - that could mean another war
2. During our rule of 5years 80% of total resource and production of Bohemia will be of ours.A) no rule , were not imperialists B) they should hand over materials , what about a more reasonable figure 40%?
3. After that we will get 10% of the total production and resource for next 30 years.I agree with that

LAND:-
- 30% of the total land of Bohemia will be distributed between all of us. Or , we create a set of Autonomous republics out of it , which are our satellite states /colonies/protectorates with their own administrative powers
- Our troops will be able to cross Bohemia with out any trouble forever.We should maintain a combined presence of 50,000 soldiers
- No resistance movement should be there in country.why we should maintain a presence of 50,000 soldiers

Foreign Relationships:-
- Will not be allowed to declare war on us.good idea
-we determine who they can forge alliances with
-If one of us goes to war , they support us in every way
-They do not align themselves with our enemies

You are a genius.
1. We can make number 2 of production to 50% instead of 40% the rest are fine as you said.
2. And in land number 1 one we suggested is fine, Every one of us used conscription during this war to get more military all of nation present here have there citizens angry due to this reason. So we can give them more land to make them happy!!!

[NS Gregaria]

IC:

Reich1's terms are those of barbarians seeking to levy tribute. The ability to take what you please, as you please? Forcible land removal? Perhaps it is you who should have been attacked. Your citizens voting in their election? Unacceptable bullshit. Nations such as yours are too dangerous.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

IC:
The terms I have laid are completely Fair and is just. It is a bit too harsh because of huge death on both sides the safety is the most important. Northwest bohemia have surrendered now but tomorrow it may declare war on us. At that time it will be another bloody war killing millions of people on both sides. So terms I laid will keep this peace long team. With out military Northwest bohemia wont attack us. And the treaty had been harsh due to fact that "Northwest bohemia" didn't surrendered till last moment which is the part when most death occurred. This terms may be harsh now but it will keep peace for ever.

-Futher Of Reich1

I have a sneaking suspicion justice is not so much on your mind as profit, my friend. Perhaps you should be excluded from this summit, if you can not behave like a civilized nation should.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

[Reich1]

IC:

Reich1's terms are those of barbarians seeking to levy tribute. The ability to take what you please, as you please? Forcible land removal? Perhaps it is you who should have been attacked. Your citizens voting in their election? Unacceptable bullshit. Nations such as yours are too dangerous.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

IC:
The terms I have laid are completely Fair and is just. It is a bit too harsh because of huge death on both sides the safety is the most important. Northwest bohemia have surrendered now but tomorrow it may declare war on us. At that time it will be another bloody war killing millions of people on both sides. So terms I laid will keep this peace long team. With out military Northwest bohemia wont attack us. And the treaty had been harsh due to fact that "Northwest bohemia" didn't surrendered till last moment which is the part when most death occurred. This terms may be harsh now but it will keep peace for ever.

-Futher Of Reich1

I have a sneaking suspicion justice is not so much on your mind as profit, my friend. Perhaps you should be excluded from this summit, if you can not behave like a civilized nation should.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

I am not thinking about profit nor about justice. I know I am not doing justice. But it is about long lasting peace I am concerned about. Even though my terms is unjust, it will bring long lasting peace between us. The summit name is PEACE summit not JUSTICE summit.

[NS Gregaria]

IC:

Reich1's terms are those of barbarians seeking to levy tribute. The ability to take what you please, as you please? Forcible land removal? Perhaps it is you who should have been attacked. Your citizens voting in their election? Unacceptable bullshit. Nations such as yours are too dangerous.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

IC:
The terms I have laid are completely Fair and is just. It is a bit too harsh because of huge death on both sides the safety is the most important. Northwest bohemia have surrendered now but tomorrow it may declare war on us. At that time it will be another bloody war killing millions of people on both sides. So terms I laid will keep this peace long team. With out military Northwest bohemia wont attack us. And the treaty had been harsh due to fact that "Northwest bohemia" didn't surrendered till last moment which is the part when most death occurred. This terms may be harsh now but it will keep peace for ever.

-Futher Of Reich1

I have a sneaking suspicion justice is not so much on your mind as profit, my friend. Perhaps you should be excluded from this summit, if you can not behave like a civilized nation should.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

I am not thinking about profit nor about justice. I know I am not doing justice. But it is about long lasting peace I am concerned about. Even though my terms is unjust, it will bring long lasting peace between us. The summit name is PEACE summit not JUSTICE summit.

That, sir, is where you are wrong. You will serve only to infuriate and agitate the Bohemians, sowing the seeds which will becomes a new military conflict. All because you want to deprive a people of self-determination, and lay claim to land which is not yours.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

[Reich1]

That, sir, is where you are wrong. You will serve only to infuriate and agitate the Bohemians, sowing the seeds which will becomes a new military conflict. All because you want to deprive a people of self-determination, and lay claim to land which is not yours.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

Thats where you have got huge wrong. How can a country with so low military start a war ? I would be quite amazed if a nation with that less military start a war and win. And if there is no chance of wining why will nation start a war?

[Almaniania]

That, sir, is where you are wrong. You will serve only to infuriate and agitate the Bohemians, sowing the seeds which will becomes a new military conflict. All because you want to deprive a people of self-determination, and lay claim to land which is not yours.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

Thats where you have got huge wrong. How can a country with so low military start a war ? I would be quite amazed if a nation with that less military start a war and win. And if there is no chance of wining why will nation start a war?

If I make a small suggestion...
having the loser pay reparations would be murderous to their economy.
I recently read a book called World War 2
In it, a country named Germany lost the First World War. They had to pay reparations. Extreme nationalism followed, and then an evil man named Adolf Hitler came to power and help cause WW2.
Now... what is so different about this from World War 2?

[Reich1]

That, sir, is where you are wrong. You will serve only to infuriate and agitate the Bohemians, sowing the seeds which will becomes a new military conflict. All because you want to deprive a people of self-determination, and lay claim to land which is not yours.

~ Mr. John C. Rooke

Thats where you have got huge wrong. How can a country with so low military start a war ? I would be quite amazed if a nation with that less military start a war and win. And if there is no chance of wining why will nation start a war?

If I make a small suggestion...
having the loser pay reparations would be murderous to their economy.
I recently read a book called World War 2
In it, a country named Germany lost the First World War. They had to pay reparations. Extreme nationalism followed, and then an evil man named Adolf Hitler came to power and help cause WW2.
Now... what is so different about this from World War 2?

I never said they will pay that amount at once! I said they can pay for long time with interest.

[Lazermaz]

Our Prime Executive Legislator will be coming to the peace summit. We hope to have peace soon. Also I believe that no interest should be charged. The amount should be paid overtime and that is it. Or perhaps another war will follow? Money can do strange things to people, even the best of men can be turned astray by the clinking of coins you know.