1991: Breakup of an Empire [Alternate History][Closed]

[Gyrenaica]

They wouldn't join you. Ok? Simple as that, no one just gives up their identity for no reason whatsoever.

[Gyrenaica]

They're commonwealth, they wouldn't go for it. Plus they got their independence in 1940s(?)

I'll force take it then if I have to.

You'd seem hypocritical considering you condemned Yemen for invading UAE which (supposedly) attacked their military base.

[New Tuva SSR]

I'll force take it then if I have to.

You'd seem hypocritical considering you condemned Yemen for invading UAE which (supposedly) attacked their military base.

What government isn't? I'll just wsit until the Byzantine War and I'll expand like wildfire.

[The Manticoran Empire]

You'd seem hypocritical considering you condemned Yemen for invading UAE which (supposedly) attacked their military base.

What government isn't? I'll just wsit until the Byzantine War and I'll expand like wildfire.

Right. Good luck with that, particularly when China jumps in to kick your ass.

[The United Russian Republic]

You'd seem hypocritical considering you condemned Yemen for invading UAE which (supposedly) attacked their military base.

What government isn't? I'll just wsit until the Byzantine War and I'll expand like wildfire.

And when China comes in to kick your ass, Russia will come in to back you up.

[The Manticoran Empire]

What government isn't? I'll just wsit until the Byzantine War and I'll expand like wildfire.

And when China comes in to kick your ass, Russia will come in to back you up.

China will kick both of your asses then.

[Republic of the Cristo]

where is IC?

[The United Russian Republic]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=361908

[The United Russian Republic]

And when China comes in to kick your ass, Russia will come in to back you up.

China will kick both of your asses then.

Well, I would doubt that, but hey, stranger things have happened.

[The Manticoran Empire]

China will kick both of your asses then.

Well, I would doubt that, but hey, stranger things have happened.

I've got a population 10 times bigger than the two of you combined (an exaggeration but still). I have more soldiers, more ships, more planes.

[The United Russian Republic]

Well, I would doubt that, but hey, stranger things have happened.

I've got a population 10 times bigger than the two of you combined (an exaggeration but still). I have more soldiers, more ships, more planes.

More people, yes. More ships and more planes, no.

Not to mention, you don't have a bigger budget, you don't have the military build up Russia has had over the past few decades, and accounting for all the Islamic extremist bull crap the US put the Soviet's through in the 70's and 80's, Chinese troops do not have more experience.

Besides, both Persia and Russia are now friends with the Empire of Japan, which correct me if I am mistaken, but that is another nation that would happily go to war with China given a good excuse. You'd be fighting a multi-front war, and your only ally would be the Byzantines, who would be quite busy with Persia. In addition, good luck invading Russia, because that war will last a long time, and before long you find yourself fighting in the winter (that is, if you make it to the winter).

If you thought the Russian winter was bad, wait til you see the Siberian winter.

[Reiynstan]

Well, I would doubt that, but hey, stranger things have happened.

I've got a population 10 times bigger than the two of you combined (an exaggeration but still). I have more soldiers, more ships, more planes.

Unfortunately, a numerical advantage in manpower and war machines is often not enough to bring around the end of a rival. Diplomatic and economic ties with neighboring countries are important as well. How will you expect your industries to continue spinning out war technology without the import of a sufficient amount of raw materials?

[The Manticoran Empire]

I've got a population 10 times bigger than the two of you combined (an exaggeration but still). I have more soldiers, more ships, more planes.

Unfortunately, a numerical advantage in manpower and war machines is often not enough to bring around the end of a rival. Diplomatic and economic ties with neighboring countries are important as well. How will you expect your industries to continue spinning out war technology without the import of a sufficient amount of raw materials?

Persia should consider the same thing. Besides, I don't ever fight longer than I need to. With Persia's antiquated Soviet equipment, it should not be difficult. Kill off a bunch of T-72s and Mig-21s and I'll be well on my way to victory.

[Reiynstan]

Unfortunately, a numerical advantage in manpower and war machines is often not enough to bring around the end of a rival. Diplomatic and economic ties with neighboring countries are important as well. How will you expect your industries to continue spinning out war technology without the import of a sufficient amount of raw materials?

Persia should consider the same thing.

Indeed, I was addressing all parties around. I noticed a lot of nations were so focused on solely military matters that they've forgotten about "the gasoline that drives their tank from here to there."

[The Manticoran Empire]

Persia should consider the same thing.

Indeed, I was addressing all parties around. I noticed a lot of nations were so focused on solely military matters that they've forgotten about "the gasoline that drives their tank from here to there."

I'm working on replacing that gas with other stuff.

[New Tuva SSR]

Unfortunately, a numerical advantage in manpower and war machines is often not enough to bring around the end of a rival. Diplomatic and economic ties with neighboring countries are important as well. How will you expect your industries to continue spinning out war technology without the import of a sufficient amount of raw materials?

Persia should consider the same thing. Besides, I don't ever fight longer than I need to. With Persia's antiquated Soviet equipment, it should not be difficult. Kill off a bunch of T-72s and Mig-21s and I'll be well on my way to victory.

Stop being so full of yourself. We were their enemies for the better half of the 20th Century. We use our own weapons. And Persia's economy is one of the best in the world, mind you.

[The United Russian Republic]

Indeed, I was addressing all parties around. I noticed a lot of nations were so focused on solely military matters that they've forgotten about "the gasoline that drives their tank from here to there."

I would hope you've read my detailing about the Lukovsky Plan, and everything I said about the Russian oil industry in my first post, before directing such a comment at my RPing.

[Reiynstan]

Indeed, I was addressing all parties around. I noticed a lot of nations were so focused on solely military matters that they've forgotten about "the gasoline that drives their tank from here to there."

I would hope you've read my detailing about the Lukovsky Plan, and everything I said about the Russian oil industry in my first post, before directing such a comment at my RPing.

My apologies on the murky clarification, but I directly replied to the nation RP'ing as China in my first post. In my second, the one you have quoted above, I said that I've noticed "a lot of nations" (these include observations of the interactions between nations in other threads) doing this; you're not one of them.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

Wait WTF Persia, like what are you gonna arm your troops with, old WW2 Weapons and spears? how are you gonna transport them and handle the logistics, as far as I know the middle east doesn't have the best agriculture, expect most of your 5 million troops to starve when they get bogged down along the Phoenix Line,the OP clearly states be Realistic and you clearly have not followed that.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

BTW could you respond to my message Manticore?

[Rannoria]

!Do not remove!
Nation name: The United Kingdom of Greater Benelux
Flag (use a spoiler):

Population: 94.5 Mil.
Territory (if fictional): Netherlands, Belgium, Holland, North third of Germany (or at least a bit of Germany), possibly south Norway
Head of Government: King Diederick Wispels
History (if fictional): After Germany was split back into several small states due to economic crisis(later unified again), the Netherlands took this chance as an opportunity to seize land. They managed to defeat northern Germany and annexed them. Soon, Luxembourg ceded to the Netherlands, due to the size of NL, and the fear of an invasion. They joined the Netherlands, and decided to persuade Belgium into entering too. After a deal, Belgium would be split into two. NederBelgie and BelgieFlan. NederBelgie soon completely ceded to NL, and BF became closer to NL, soon ceding to it. They renamed themselves the Benelux Empire, and set for new lands. They fought against Norway, seeking new land, and in the end, struck a deal. Norway would keep most of its land, but must give some to Benelux, and both agreed, forming the United Kingdom of Greater Benelux.
Head of State*: (Same [Diedrick])
Military size*:
Active = 308,100
Reserves = 1,200,000

[New Republika Srpska]

Tag.

Going to make an app once I get access to a PC.

[Communist and Socialist Unions]

!Do not remove!
Nation name: The United Kingdom of Greater Benelux
Flag (use a spoiler):

(Image)

Population: 77,250,000
Territory (if fictional): Netherlands, Belgium, Holland, North third of Germany (or at least a bit of Germany), possibly south Norway
Head of Government: King Diederick Wispels
History (if fictional): After Germany was split back into several small states due to economic crisis(later unified again), the Netherlands took this chance as an opportunity to seize land. They managed to defeat northern Germany and annexed them. Soon, Luxembourg ceded to the Netherlands, due to the size of NL, and the fear of an invasion. They joined the Netherlands, and decided to persuade Belgium into entering too. After a deal, Belgium would be split into two. NederBelgie and BelgieFlan. NederBelgie soon completely ceded to NL, and BF became closer to NL, soon ceding to it. They renamed themselves the Benelux Empire, and set for new lands. They fought against Norway, seeking new land, and in the end, struck a deal. Norway would keep most of its land, but must give some to Benelux, and both agreed, forming the United Kingdom of Greater Benelux.
Head of State*: (Same [Diedrick])
Military size*:
Active = 308,100
Reserves = 1,200,000

Yo, Rannoires! Glad you're here!

[Rannoria]

Hey! You too. I wonder what the future holds in store for these nations.

[Communist and Socialist Unions]

Hey! You too. I wonder what the future holds in store for these nations.

Probably not much, as we are far away from each other. Anyway, *jokingness intensifies* ACCEPTED!