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1991: Breakup of an Empire [Alternate History][Closed]

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Nation name: Peoples' Republic of India
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History (if fictional): With the weakness of the Indian government now apparent to all, the maoist rebels in the country rose up against the weak local governments and have claimed the land that is rightfully the peoples
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Nation name: The Republic of Greater Yemen
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Population: 128.475 million
Territory (if fictional): Yemen, Oman, Eritrea, and Ethiopia
Head of Government: President Nadheer Al Haddad
History (if fictional): Conquered Oman and Ethiopia, Diplo-annexed Eritrea
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Military size*: 900,000 infantry
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:06 am

Republic of the Cristo wrote:!Do not remove!
Nation name: Peoples' Republic of India
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Population: 453,000,000
Territory (if fictional):
Head of Government: Anit Patel
History (if fictional): With the weakness of the Indian government now apparent to all, the maoist rebels in the country rose up against the weak local governments and have claimed the land that is rightfully the peoples
Head of State*: Anit Patel
Military size*: 5 million, 10 million if necessary.

Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:!Do not remove!
Nation name: The Republic of Greater Yemen
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Population: 128.475 million
Territory (if fictional): Yemen, Oman, Eritrea, and Ethiopia
Head of Government: President Nadheer Al Haddad
History (if fictional): Conquered Oman and Ethiopia, Diplo-annexed Eritrea
Head of State*: Vice President Jamil Al Assad
Military size*: 900,000 infantry
1,000 tanks
1,000 planes
150 ships

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Nation name: Republic of Eistria (sometimes Greater Eistria)
Flag (use a spoiler): same as this nation
Population: 14,761,349

Territory (if fictional): Croatian Istria, Southern half of Slovenian Istria, Croatian islands of Cres Krk
Head of Government: Prime Minister Igor Pavlovick
History (if fictional): same as Slovenia and Croatia until 1988, Istria revolts, 1990 Istria becomes independent under the Istriot name 'Eistria'
Head of State*: same as head of government
Military size*: active = 450,000 reserve = 1,500,000

Slovenia is already controlled by Italy, but Istria alone would be too small to be seen on the map anyways.
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Postby Communist and Socialist Unions » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:15 am

Where be the IC?
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:19 am

Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:Where be the IC?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=361908
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Postby Communist and Socialist Unions » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:44 am

Crockerland wrote:
Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:Where be the IC?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=361908


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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:08 pm

What is the time scale for this RP? I ask because the PLAAF IRL has the following Generation 5 aircraft due to be deployed in 2018: the Chengdu J-20 and the Shenyang J-31. Most of my aircraft are also post 1991. I want an idea of how long it will take us to get to 2000.
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:13 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:What is the time scale for this RP? I ask because the PLAAF IRL has the following Generation 5 aircraft due to be deployed in 2018: the Chengdu J-20 and the Shenyang J-31. Most of my aircraft are also post 1991. I want an idea of how long it will take us to get to 2000.

I dunno, what do you think it should be?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:15 pm

Crockerland wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:What is the time scale for this RP? I ask because the PLAAF IRL has the following Generation 5 aircraft due to be deployed in 2018: the Chengdu J-20 and the Shenyang J-31. Most of my aircraft are also post 1991. I want an idea of how long it will take us to get to 2000.

I dunno, what do you think it should be?

Well, we originally had 1 RL day is the same as 1 RP week but an RP that I do with Gyrenaica has 1 IC page=3 RP months. Personally, I'm good with either one of them.
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:18 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Crockerland wrote:I dunno, what do you think it should be?

Well, we originally had 1 RL day is the same as 1 RP week but an RP that I do with Gyrenaica has 1 IC page=3 RP months. Personally, I'm good with either one of them.

The second one sounds best.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:19 pm

Crockerland wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well, we originally had 1 RL day is the same as 1 RP week but an RP that I do with Gyrenaica has 1 IC page=3 RP months. Personally, I'm good with either one of them.

The second one sounds best.

So it is April, 1991.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:19 pm

Crockerland wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well, we originally had 1 RL day is the same as 1 RP week but an RP that I do with Gyrenaica has 1 IC page=3 RP months. Personally, I'm good with either one of them.

The second one sounds best.

Seconded.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:22 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:
Crockerland wrote:The second one sounds best.

Seconded.

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Postby The United Russian Republic » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:24 pm

Crockerland wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well, we originally had 1 RL day is the same as 1 RP week but an RP that I do with Gyrenaica has 1 IC page=3 RP months. Personally, I'm good with either one of them.

The second one sounds best.


I agree. I had assumed that we would move at a pace like that. It would take forever to get the story to move along with the first one. An RP can't move that slow, because it would take forever for events to occur, and that would be boring.

However the one issue is that 1 IC page=3 months is if people slow down posting, then others who want time to move along may have difficulty being able to do what they want to. There is even the opposite that poses a problem, where posting can pick up dramatically, and one night you go to sleep, and the next morning you wake up and you've missed like 6 months of RP time.

So it's not a bad idea, however it can cause a problem only like, 20-25% of the time, if even.

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Postby The United Russian Republic » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:25 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Crockerland wrote:The second one sounds best.

So it is April, 1991.


No, it would have to be 1992, because the USSR collapsed in late 1991. December 26th, to be specific.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:26 pm

The United Russian Republic wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:So it is April, 1991.


No, it would have to be 1992, because the USSR collapsed in late 1991. December 26th, to be specific.

Oh. My bad.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:28 pm

The United Russian Republic wrote:
Crockerland wrote:The second one sounds best.


I agree. I had assumed that we would move at a pace like that. It would take forever to get the story to move along with the first one. An RP can't move that slow, because it would take forever for events to occur, and that would be boring.

However the one issue is that 1 IC page=3 months is if people slow down posting, then others who want time to move along may have difficulty being able to do what they want to. There is even the opposite that poses a problem, where posting can pick up dramatically, and one night you go to sleep, and the next morning you wake up and you've missed like 6 months of RP time.

So it's not a bad idea, however it can cause a problem only like, 20-25% of the time, if even.

Yes, it will be an issue early on. But, as more people arrive and the storyline heats up, it will pick up.
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Postby The United Russian Republic » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:29 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
The United Russian Republic wrote:
I agree. I had assumed that we would move at a pace like that. It would take forever to get the story to move along with the first one. An RP can't move that slow, because it would take forever for events to occur, and that would be boring.

However the one issue is that 1 IC page=3 months is if people slow down posting, then others who want time to move along may have difficulty being able to do what they want to. There is even the opposite that poses a problem, where posting can pick up dramatically, and one night you go to sleep, and the next morning you wake up and you've missed like 6 months of RP time.

So it's not a bad idea, however it can cause a problem only like, 20-25% of the time, if even.

Yes, it will be an issue early on. But, as more people arrive and the storyline heats up, it will pick up.


Oh yeah, I'm sure everything will be fine. This will be much better.

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Postby New Tuva SSR » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:46 pm

Mwahahahahaha. Crockerland, could you update the map to include Persia's new Kurd and Georgian territories.
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Postby Crockerland » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Contrary to what you seem to think, people don't really want to give up their nationality and enter your servitude and sphere of influence for no reason.
Kurdistan especially is highly nationalistic, and Georgia just got it's independence. Both countries also have a history of fighting tooth and nail to maintain their independence.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:13 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:Mwahahahahaha. Crockerland, could you update the map to include Persia's new Kurd and Georgian territories.

He won't. :)

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Postby The United Russian Republic » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:00 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:Mwahahahahaha. Crockerland, could you update the map to include Persia's new Kurd and Georgian territories.


Gotta agree with Crockerland on this one. It's only 1992, and Gerogia has only just gained its independence. They fiercely drove for independence from the Soviet Union, not so they could join another Union, but so they could be on their own. Georgia was actually right behind the the Baltic States in the drive for independence. It's why I'm not doing anything like unifying with Ukraine right now, it would be too unrealistic, and the OP specifically says Be Realistic.

Also, this is nothing personal. It's just what I think about this subject based off of what I know about Georgians and their history.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:09 pm

The United Russian Republic wrote:
New Tuva SSR wrote:Mwahahahahaha. Crockerland, could you update the map to include Persia's new Kurd and Georgian territories.


Gotta agree with Crockerland on this one. It's only 1992, and Gerogia has only just gained its independence. They fiercely drove for independence from the Soviet Union, not so they could join another Union, but so they could be on their own. Georgia was actually right behind the the Baltic States in the drive for independence. It's why I'm not doing anything like unifying with Ukraine right now, it would be too unrealistic, and the OP specifically says Be Realistic.

Also, this is nothing personal. It's just what I think about this subject based off of what I know about Georgians and their history.

Well, then, I'll edit and take Pakistan.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:10 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:
The United Russian Republic wrote:
Gotta agree with Crockerland on this one. It's only 1992, and Gerogia has only just gained its independence. They fiercely drove for independence from the Soviet Union, not so they could join another Union, but so they could be on their own. Georgia was actually right behind the the Baltic States in the drive for independence. It's why I'm not doing anything like unifying with Ukraine right now, it would be too unrealistic, and the OP specifically says Be Realistic.

Also, this is nothing personal. It's just what I think about this subject based off of what I know about Georgians and their history.

Well, then, I'll edit and take Pakistan.

They're commonwealth, they wouldn't go for it. Plus they got their independence in 1940s(?)

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Postby New Tuva SSR » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:10 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
New Tuva SSR wrote:Well, then, I'll edit and take Pakistan.

They're commonwealth, they wouldn't go for it. Plus they got their independence in 1940s(?)

I'll force take it then if I have to.
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