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Second Helghan Empire
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:12 pm

Shit I have to eat dinner Be back soon.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:12 pm

Also, in this case I;m just using the exact same mindset as Vanquaria. He captured Revasa, so he should get it. If I recapture Revasa, I should get it.

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Cirilla
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Postby Cirilla » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:13 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Cirilla wrote:Why kind of nation would not want to secure their territory especially in wartime. If the fleet fired at you then it would make the MDP terms null but it hasn't I presume.

Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.

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Esgonia
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Founded: Mar 05, 2014
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Postby Esgonia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:14 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Well, because he declared war on Donner and it was in my best interests to regain Revasa while Vanquaria was busy with the war in Donner Land.


Okay now I understand sorry for the questions. In retrospect it is kinda obvious. Now why is the FAP and Esgonia involved?

I have hostile relations with Vanquaria ICly.
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Empire of Donner land wrote:We get it.
You're the grand master edge supreme. :P

Cirilla wrote: Housemaid, a bad one yet baddass

Victoriala wrote:Thank god we aren't neighbors
18 years old, Male, Filipino, Centrist-Right(ish).
Call me Es, Esgo/n, Ainsley Harriot, whatever.
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Free Asian Ports
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Founded: Aug 22, 2015
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:15 pm

Esgonia wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Okay now I understand sorry for the questions. In retrospect it is kinda obvious. Now why is the FAP and Esgonia involved?

I have hostile relations with Vanquaria ICly.

Am also very unfriendly. I have interest in reducing his conquests.

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:16 pm

Cirilla wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.

So, assuming UoAE got kicked out of the Main Powers for not attacking his own ally. Guess what, if UoAE was stubborn about it ICly he could easily just pull the plug on the Diarchy and say, "No, My allies are more important than your pact, and we no longer see any reason to continue the Diarchy."

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Esgonia
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Postby Esgonia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:16 pm

Cirilla wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.

And here I am, which is currently deploying against Vanquaria :3
Another generic Westernized/Japanized nation with some Eastern stuff to it. Nothing special.
Also does not use NS Stats (I have written factbooks, dammit!)
North Arkana's beloved imouto

Empire of Donner land wrote:We get it.
You're the grand master edge supreme. :P

Cirilla wrote: Housemaid, a bad one yet baddass

Victoriala wrote:Thank god we aren't neighbors
18 years old, Male, Filipino, Centrist-Right(ish).
Call me Es, Esgo/n, Ainsley Harriot, whatever.
Pro: Memes
Anti: Not memes, Minecraft youtubers, any ideology that is represented by this color.

Awarded the Order of the Emperor by DEN
Tune of the Now: What ISIL would hear in hell,

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Union Of Autocratic Empires
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Founded: Feb 08, 2015
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Postby Union Of Autocratic Empires » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:17 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Cirilla wrote:Why kind of nation would not want to secure their territory especially in wartime. If the fleet fired at you then it would make the MDP terms null but it hasn't I presume.

Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

Don't make Karl choose between the mother of his grandson and the country that chose to try their luck on their own instead of staying with the Union.

Cirilla wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.


Ih, don't you remember I abandoned the MDP after the fall of the Central Powers? I think I told you.

If not, I'll take this moment to do so.
Last edited by Union Of Autocratic Empires on Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Damnit, Nation, I'm a writer, not a military consultant. I write about impossible and cool things, wether they are realist or not.
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Second Helghan Empire
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Founded: Jul 17, 2015
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:18 pm

Esgonia wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:Hey I need to know who I am at war with it is becoming difficult for me to keep straight. I am at war with Donner but who else if anyone?

My guess is everyone who had sided with Donner.


I see but who has officially declared war on me? I need to know so I know how to RP first contact interaction.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

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Union Of Autocratic Empires
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Postby Union Of Autocratic Empires » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:19 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Cirilla wrote:He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.

So, assuming UoAE got kicked out of the Main Powers for not attacking his own ally. Guess what, if UoAE was stubborn about it ICly he could easily just pull the plug on the Diarchy and say, "No, My allies are more important than your pact, and we no longer see any reason to continue the Diarchy."

Why don't you blow up one of your boats and say it was Vanquaria anyways? It worked for the American government to start the war in Cuba.
Check out my nation's soundtrack!
Our History
The Unionist Federal Council

UoAE is pursuing a new research. They claim that what they're doing is the missing link. A waifu to surpass Metal Sugoi.
Damnit, Nation, I'm a writer, not a military consultant. I write about impossible and cool things, wether they are realist or not.
Long live Azenyanistan! The true heart of Sishai!

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Western Pacific Territories
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Founded: Apr 29, 2015
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:21 pm

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:So, assuming UoAE got kicked out of the Main Powers for not attacking his own ally. Guess what, if UoAE was stubborn about it ICly he could easily just pull the plug on the Diarchy and say, "No, My allies are more important than your pact, and we no longer see any reason to continue the Diarchy."

Why don't you blow up one of your boats and say it was Vanquaria anyways? It worked for the American government to start the war in Cuba.

I didn't exactly think of that. And those things aren't cheap you know, right?

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Empire of Donner land
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:22 pm

Post is up. Watcha think.
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Union Of Autocratic Empires
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Postby Union Of Autocratic Empires » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:22 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:Why don't you blow up one of your boats and say it was Vanquaria anyways? It worked for the American government to start the war in Cuba.

I didn't exactly think of that. And those things aren't cheap you know, right?

It worked, didn't it? Besides, that way you can invoque the MDP against Vanquaria.
Check out my nation's soundtrack!
Our History
The Unionist Federal Council

UoAE is pursuing a new research. They claim that what they're doing is the missing link. A waifu to surpass Metal Sugoi.
Damnit, Nation, I'm a writer, not a military consultant. I write about impossible and cool things, wether they are realist or not.
Long live Azenyanistan! The true heart of Sishai!

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:23 pm

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Well, I do have that alliance with UoAE. If I were attacked by you... that would make a extremely frustrating situation for the Diarchy, considering UoAE would have to defend me because you attacked, and he has to chose whether he should honor his alliance or honor the Diarchy.

Don't make Karl choose between the mother of his grandson and the country that chose to try their luck on their own instead of staying with the Union.

Cirilla wrote:He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.


Ih, don't you remember I abandoned the MDP after the fall of the Central Powers? I think I told you.

If not, I'll take this moment to do so.

We left because it was no longer beneficial for us to continue being in the Union. Not to mention the whole Cirilla uses torture on people who commit serious crimes thing. That isn't kosher to us.

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:23 pm

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:I didn't exactly think of that. And those things aren't cheap you know, right?

It worked, didn't it? Besides, that way you can invoque the MDP against Vanquaria.

Way too late for that now.

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Free Asian Ports
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:23 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Esgonia wrote:My guess is everyone who had sided with Donner.


I see but who has officially declared war on me? I need to know so I know how to RP first contact interaction.

I haven't, and won't deliberately fire on any contacts. I will throw the master arm switches and scramble a bunch of fighters, though, and will attack if fired upon. If anything, this encounter should give the IWA a clue at the capabilities of the RF-38. Not unlike when the west learned of the MiG-25. Except no defectors. None of that.

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:So, assuming UoAE got kicked out of the Main Powers for not attacking his own ally. Guess what, if UoAE was stubborn about it ICly he could easily just pull the plug on the Diarchy and say, "No, My allies are more important than your pact, and we no longer see any reason to continue the Diarchy."

Why don't you blow up one of your boats and say it was Vanquaria anyways? It worked for the American government to start the war in Cuba.

It was supposedly a magazine fire, possibly set by a disgruntled crewman. Hardly intentional by either side. Nevertheless, Yellow Journalism blamed it on Spain.

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:25 pm

Guess it might be a good time to bring in the special forces into Donner Land.

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Cirilla
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Postby Cirilla » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:25 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Cirilla wrote:He is also in the MDP which was created way before you established an alliance with him, especially that the MDP Pact has to show that can and able to protect it's signatories or it will look bad. Van actually has the power to call on the MDP pact and make everyone in it to declare war on you, even UoAE. If he refuses then he gets booted and consequences will befall. So you better hope that Van won't use that privilege which he has a right to.

So, assuming UoAE got kicked out of the Main Powers for not attacking his own ally. Guess what, if UoAE was stubborn about it ICly he could easily just pull the plug on the Diarchy and say, "No, My allies are more important than your pact, and we no longer see any reason to continue the Diarchy."

This is not about the diarchy, it's about the MDP specifically. Stop making it so. Cirilla has to follow it's terms as well as UoAE, everyone does. I don't see how your more important than the Diarchy anyways considering all the things you already done.

Anyways the point being you did it and Van has the choice to.

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:
Ih, don't you remember I abandoned the MDP after the fall of the Central Powers? I think I told you.

If not, I'll take this moment to do so.


No, you had the choice to for a while now. Even looking at the roster to see if you were up there. I've even made an announcement about the thread which contained the list of nations. Doing it now will just be stupid.

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Esgonia
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Postby Esgonia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:27 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Esgonia wrote:My guess is everyone who had sided with Donner.


I see but who has officially declared war on me? I need to know so I know how to RP first contact interaction.

I haven't. Yet.
Also I did notice that my second post was edited by a mod...did I do something wrong...?
Last edited by Esgonia on Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Another generic Westernized/Japanized nation with some Eastern stuff to it. Nothing special.
Also does not use NS Stats (I have written factbooks, dammit!)
North Arkana's beloved imouto

Empire of Donner land wrote:We get it.
You're the grand master edge supreme. :P

Cirilla wrote: Housemaid, a bad one yet baddass

Victoriala wrote:Thank god we aren't neighbors
18 years old, Male, Filipino, Centrist-Right(ish).
Call me Es, Esgo/n, Ainsley Harriot, whatever.
Pro: Memes
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Awarded the Order of the Emperor by DEN
Tune of the Now: What ISIL would hear in hell,

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:27 pm

Oh, let's see... I've contributed to rebuilding Azenyanistan, control a major trading port in Elimurith, can raise 3 million troops on a whim, and if I get Revasa back I become known as the nation that claimed land from Vanquaria.

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:28 pm

Esgonia wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
I see but who has officially declared war on me? I need to know so I know how to RP first contact interaction.

I haven't. Yet.
Also I did notice that my second post was edited by a mod...did I do something wrong...?

You didn't. You just did some code wrong and screwed up the page, so I asked the mods to edit the post and fix it.

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Free Asian Ports
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:29 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:Oh, let's see... I've contributed to rebuilding Azenyanistan, control a major trading port in Elimurith, can raise 3 million troops on a whim, and if I get Revasa back I become known as the nation that claimed land from Vanquaria.

*cough*withmyhelp*cough*

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Esgonia
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Postby Esgonia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:30 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:Oh, let's see... I've contributed to rebuilding Azenyanistan, control a major trading port in Elimurith, can raise 3 million troops on a whim, and if I get Revasa back I become known as the nation that claimed land from Vanquaria.

*cough*withmyhelp*cough*

and mien.
Another generic Westernized/Japanized nation with some Eastern stuff to it. Nothing special.
Also does not use NS Stats (I have written factbooks, dammit!)
North Arkana's beloved imouto

Empire of Donner land wrote:We get it.
You're the grand master edge supreme. :P

Cirilla wrote: Housemaid, a bad one yet baddass

Victoriala wrote:Thank god we aren't neighbors
18 years old, Male, Filipino, Centrist-Right(ish).
Call me Es, Esgo/n, Ainsley Harriot, whatever.
Pro: Memes
Anti: Not memes, Minecraft youtubers, any ideology that is represented by this color.

Awarded the Order of the Emperor by DEN
Tune of the Now: What ISIL would hear in hell,

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:30 pm

Yeah. Y'all deserve credit as well.

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Free Asian Ports
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:31 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:Yeah. Y'all deserve credit as well.

*cough*andanextendedleaseonrandgriz*cough*

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