NATION

PASSWORD

A Blizzard In Hell [Ausozera Only/OOC/SIGNUP/ Soft PMT]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Free Asian Ports
Senator
 
Posts: 4034
Founded: Aug 22, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Free Asian Ports » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:49 pm

Esgonia wrote:Meanwhile, that topic is none of our concern in Esgonia, because there's no chance of Mariists being able to take their leader's child away.

Same.

Oh, and Helghan. You must respond to my diplomat. Otherwise, your POWs aren't going anywhere.

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:51 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Esgonia wrote:Meanwhile, that topic is none of our concern in Esgonia, because there's no chance of Mariists being able to take their leader's child away.

Same.

Oh, and Helghan. You must respond to my diplomat. Otherwise, your POWs aren't going anywhere.


Oh I will edit I must have missed that thanks for the heads up.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Esgonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6657
Founded: Mar 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Esgonia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:51 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:Same.

Oh, and Helghan. You must respond to my diplomat. Otherwise, your POWs aren't going anywhere.


Oh I will edit I must have missed that thanks for the heads up.

Also my trade offer, too.
Another generic Westernized/Japanized nation with some Eastern stuff to it. Nothing special.
Also does not use NS Stats (I have written factbooks, dammit!)
North Arkana's beloved imouto

Empire of Donner land wrote:We get it.
You're the grand master edge supreme. :P

Cirilla wrote: Housemaid, a bad one yet baddass

Victoriala wrote:Thank god we aren't neighbors
18 years old, Male, Filipino, Centrist-Right(ish).
Call me Es, Esgo/n, Ainsley Harriot, whatever.
Pro: Memes
Anti: Not memes, Minecraft youtubers, any ideology that is represented by this color.

Awarded the Order of the Emperor by DEN
Tune of the Now: What ISIL would hear in hell,

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:52 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Vanquaria wrote:
Yeh, if the Prince was Autarch he would personally approach the Eredion Emperor to discuss peacefully about the problem, Mariism and Oceanics as well. Vanquarian citizens would be disappointed

Current Autarch be like: Meh, don't give a shit. Someone fetch me that new expensive wine that I saw in the ads just now!


Helghan is pretty pissed about that too. They would approach Eredion to allow Mariist's and Oceanics to exit Eredion for Helsen.


Also in other news. Urran Welcome to my tech advantage. I have the LRASM's bub.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=north_arkana+second_helghan_empire/censusid=70?add_nation=Urran\
No idea if this link works, but it might be relevant.

My general rule has been a rule of escalation. If someone demonstrates some really advanced technology at a low Scientific Advancement rating, I take it as permission to scale my own tech accordingly.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Empire of Donner land
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6636
Founded: Jun 28, 2015
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Empire of Donner land » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:52 pm

Donner land may or may not retaliate by airstrikes on Eridion or Equator because of what they've done...
Heyo.
The Collected Entries Of Me In A Nutshell
"Donner: A chill guy who has no chill" - Esgonia
"Everything is wrong. Everything" - URA

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:55 pm

Empire of Donner land wrote:Donner land may or may not retaliate by airstrikes on Eridion or Equator because of what they've done...

Don't. The IIN was holding the world at gunpoint with the threat of nuclear war for a while because of the kidnapping of their leader by members of their.own government.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:56 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Helghan is pretty pissed about that too. They would approach Eredion to allow Mariist's and Oceanics to exit Eredion for Helsen.


Also in other news. Urran Welcome to my tech advantage. I have the LRASM's bub.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=north_arkana+second_helghan_empire/censusid=70?add_nation=Urran\
No idea if this link works, but it might be relevant.

My general rule has been a rule of escalation. If someone demonstrates some really advanced technology at a low Scientific Advancement rating, I take it as permission to scale my own tech accordingly.


Itisn't as advanced as the things you have already used. The russian air force already has those look them up on the USS donald cook incedent.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Cirilla
Minister
 
Posts: 3352
Founded: Apr 19, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Cirilla » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:57 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Empire of Donner land wrote:Donner land may or may not retaliate by airstrikes on Eridion or Equator because of what they've done...

Don't. The IIN was holding the world at gunpoint with the threat of nuclear war for a while because of the kidnapping of their leader by members of their.own government.

The mariists though....

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:03 pm

Alright FAP and Esgonia I edited my latest post to respond to both of you.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:03 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
North Arkana wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=north_arkana+second_helghan_empire/censusid=70?add_nation=Urran\
No idea if this link works, but it might be relevant.

My general rule has been a rule of escalation. If someone demonstrates some really advanced technology at a low Scientific Advancement rating, I take it as permission to scale my own tech accordingly.


Itisn't as advanced as the things you have already used. The russian air force already has those look them up on the USS donald cook incedent.

Which has already been disproven. Either way, I take this as full licence to expand my tech further.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Empire of Donner land
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6636
Founded: Jun 28, 2015
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Empire of Donner land » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:04 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Empire of Donner land wrote:Donner land may or may not retaliate by airstrikes on Eridion or Equator because of what they've done...

Don't. The IIN was holding the world at gunpoint with the threat of nuclear war for a while because of the kidnapping of their leader by members of their.own government.

Oh. Good point. Forgot about that.
Heyo.
The Collected Entries Of Me In A Nutshell
"Donner: A chill guy who has no chill" - Esgonia
"Everything is wrong. Everything" - URA

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:05 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
North Arkana wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=north_arkana+second_helghan_empire/censusid=70?add_nation=Urran\
No idea if this link works, but it might be relevant.

My general rule has been a rule of escalation. If someone demonstrates some really advanced technology at a low Scientific Advancement rating, I take it as permission to scale my own tech accordingly.


Itisn't as advanced as the things you have already used. The russian air force already has those look them up on the USS donald cook incedent.


Also if you think the LRASM is the problem then you can look it up too it is under development by the US navy.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:07 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Itisn't as advanced as the things you have already used. The russian air force already has those look them up on the USS donald cook incedent.

Which has already been disproven. Either way, I take this as full licence to expand my tech further.


Show me where this was dis proven and I will believe it. And sure go ahead and have the same level of tech but it is Bullshit if you just take whatever other people post and say well mine does that AND.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Vanquaria
Senator
 
Posts: 4809
Founded: May 09, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Vanquaria » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:08 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Empire of Donner land wrote:Donner land may or may not retaliate by airstrikes on Eridion or Equator because of what they've done...

Don't. The IIN was holding the world at gunpoint with the threat of nuclear war for a while because of the kidnapping of their leader by members of their.own government.


But Vanquaria never took it seriously haha
Vanq commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Hitler of NS.


"I took away Vanq's YB for deliberatly ignoring me"
"I know Vanq is a very good writer and this is how he treats someone of lesser skill?"
"I would love to have a writer of your caliber along for the ride"
"neo and vanq do a dbz fusion to form 1 big shitposter then get erased from NS by kyrusia"
"Which is the level of memeing I expect from Vanq"
"brigadier general comes on, pulls a vanq and calls us all autistic"

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:16 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
North Arkana wrote:Which has already been disproven. Either way, I take this as full licence to expand my tech further.


Show me where this was dis proven and I will believe it. And sure go ahead and have the same level of tech but it is Bullshit if you just take whatever other people post and say well mine does that AND.

It's one report from a Russian government controlled news agency which has simply been parroted around the internet. The burden of proof is on you.
Last edited by North Arkana on Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:21 pm, edited 3 times in total.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:20 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Show me where this was dis proven and I will believe it. And sure go ahead and have the same level of tech but it is Bullshit if you just take whatever other people post and say well mine does that AND.

It's one report from a Russian government controlled news agency which has simply been parroted around the internet. The burden of proof is on you.


No it isn't You can't just shoot someone down who has at least one item of proof and say LOL no I say you have to get another one because I refuse to actually look one up because lol reasons.

Even then do you even have one bit saying they were disproven?
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:22 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
North Arkana wrote:It's one report from a Russian government controlled news agency which has simply been parroted around the internet. The burden of proof is on you.


No it isn't You can't just shoot someone down who has at least one item of proof and say LOL no I say you have to get another one because I refuse to actually look one up because lol reasons.

Even then do you even have one bit saying they were disproven?

I'll also point out the power generation requirements need to jam ALL the different bands of radar the AEGIS system can use are far outside the capabilities of a single aircraft. Jam one wave-band, probably, jam them all, good luck.

If they configured it properly, AEGIS could fry the aircraft's own sensors if their willing to not use search mode for a bit. The disparity in power output is ridiculous.

You're one item of proof isn't proof. It's a single statement of Russia media which hasn't been corroborated by any other source.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:23 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Show me where this was dis proven and I will believe it. And sure go ahead and have the same level of tech but it is Bullshit if you just take whatever other people post and say well mine does that AND.

It's one report from a Russian government controlled news agency which has simply been parroted around the internet. The burden of proof is on you.


Right and you have proof?
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:25 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
No it isn't You can't just shoot someone down who has at least one item of proof and say LOL no I say you have to get another one because I refuse to actually look one up because lol reasons.

Even then do you even have one bit saying they were disproven?

I'll also point out the power generation requirements need to jam ALL the different bands of radar the AEGIS system can use are far outside the capabilities of a single aircraft. Jam one wave-band, probably, jam them all, good luck.

If they configured it properly, AEGIS could fry the aircraft's own sensors if their willing to not use search mode for a bit. The disparity in power output is ridiculous.

You're one item of proof isn't proof. It's a single statement of Russia media which hasn't been corroborated by any other source.


Yet you have failed to produce anything that says different, anything to the contrary at all really.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Ratte
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1856
Founded: Feb 27, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Ratte » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:28 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Helghan is pretty pissed about that too. They would approach Eredion to allow Mariist's and Oceanics to exit Eredion for Helsen.


Also in other news. Urran Welcome to my tech advantage. I have the LRASM's bub.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=compare/nations=north_arkana+second_helghan_empire/censusid=70?add_nation=Urran\
No idea if this link works, but it might be relevant.

My general rule has been a rule of escalation. If someone demonstrates some really advanced technology at a low Scientific Advancement rating, I take it as permission to scale my own tech accordingly.

even with me being sadly the second least advanced from those listed
i support this
The Federal Republic Of Ratte | Current Leader: Wilhelm Rueger|Head Of Government: Chancellor Klaus Hölder
Co-Owner of Grunder Industries
OOC crap and things
Best song -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTPHBVxydnI
German | Historian | Centrist(sorta) | Writier | Aviation Amatuer
<3 wargame: european escalation | Red Dragon

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:35 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
North Arkana wrote:I'll also point out the power generation requirements need to jam ALL the different bands of radar the AEGIS system can use are far outside the capabilities of a single aircraft. Jam one wave-band, probably, jam them all, good luck.

If they configured it properly, AEGIS could fry the aircraft's own sensors if their willing to not use search mode for a bit. The disparity in power output is ridiculous.

You're one item of proof isn't proof. It's a single statement of Russia media which hasn't been corroborated by any other source.


Yet you have failed to produce anything that says different, anything to the contrary at all really.

Probably because the numbers don't lie, and no one takes Russian propaganda seriously enough to make a serious response.

Throw in the fact ships are still showing up regularly in the area and going about their business with no problems, and the situation really isn't anything like Russia wants it to be.

AEGIS also has a max output of 5 MW. They could cook the Russian pilot if he tried to jam them.
Last edited by North Arkana on Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

User avatar
Urran
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14434
Founded: Jan 22, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Urran » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:36 pm

Hey Helghan, just FYI, my ships are all AEGIS and have missiles effective against fixed wing aircraft up to 230 miles. They also have Naval Strike Missiles, an anti-ship missile with the same range, and Tomahawk cruise missiles. In other words, I'm already within striking distance of your fleet. Of course, the submarine could be closer than that even. Don't worry, I'm not going to attack you.

I also don't think you can "weapons jam" like that. And because you flew over without asking, you kinda just did it, I could have decided to allow it, escort it, or blast it out of the sky. You didn't give me time to react. Even so, I'll let it slide. Not the "weapons jam" though. I have to ask you to edit that out.
A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority.
Proud Coastie
The Blood Ravens wrote: How wonderful. Its like Japan, and 1950''s America had a baby. All the racism of the 50s, and everything else Japanese.

I <3 James May

I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith
❤BITTEN BY THE VAMPIRE QUEEN OF COOKIES❤

User avatar
Second Helghan Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 3077
Founded: Jul 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Second Helghan Empire » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:46 pm

Urran wrote:Hey Helghan, just FYI, my ships are all AEGIS and have missiles effective against fixed wing aircraft up to 230 miles. They also have Naval Strike Missiles, an anti-ship missile with the same range, and Tomahawk cruise missiles. In other words, I'm already within striking distance of your fleet. Of course, the submarine could be closer than that even. Don't worry, I'm not going to attack you.

I also don't think you can "weapons jam" like that. And because you flew over without asking, you kinda just did it, I could have decided to allow it, escort it, or blast it out of the sky. You didn't give me time to react. Even so, I'll let it slide. Not the "weapons jam" though. I have to ask you to edit that out.


Very well and yea my ships have all that too. You are far into my striking distance just the Vegara's have a far better chance through getting through Aegis than other missiles of the same kind. Look up the lockheed Martin LRASM, that is a Vegara, it is able to dip down to sea skimming altitude to reduce the chance of anti missile defenses hitting this to almost nothing.

Also I won't fire on you unless the peacetalks end and there is no peace, or you begin becoming an issue.
Well now, that hibernation has gotten boring, daddy is back again.

User avatar
Urran
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14434
Founded: Jan 22, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Urran » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Urran wrote:Hey Helghan, just FYI, my ships are all AEGIS and have missiles effective against fixed wing aircraft up to 230 miles. They also have Naval Strike Missiles, an anti-ship missile with the same range, and Tomahawk cruise missiles. In other words, I'm already within striking distance of your fleet. Of course, the submarine could be closer than that even. Don't worry, I'm not going to attack you.

I also don't think you can "weapons jam" like that. And because you flew over without asking, you kinda just did it, I could have decided to allow it, escort it, or blast it out of the sky. You didn't give me time to react. Even so, I'll let it slide. Not the "weapons jam" though. I have to ask you to edit that out.


Very well and yea my ships have all that too. You are far into my striking distance just the Vegara's have a far better chance through getting through Aegis than other missiles of the same kind. Look up the lockheed Martin LRASM, that is a Vegara, it is able to dip down to sea skimming altitude to reduce the chance of anti missile defenses hitting this to almost nothing.

Also I won't fire on you unless the peacetalks end and there is no peace, or you begin becoming an issue.


I have those as well.
A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority.
Proud Coastie
The Blood Ravens wrote: How wonderful. Its like Japan, and 1950''s America had a baby. All the racism of the 50s, and everything else Japanese.

I <3 James May

I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith
❤BITTEN BY THE VAMPIRE QUEEN OF COOKIES❤

User avatar
North Arkana
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8854
Founded: Dec 16, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby North Arkana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:53 pm

Urran wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Very well and yea my ships have all that too. You are far into my striking distance just the Vegara's have a far better chance through getting through Aegis than other missiles of the same kind. Look up the lockheed Martin LRASM, that is a Vegara, it is able to dip down to sea skimming altitude to reduce the chance of anti missile defenses hitting this to almost nothing.

Also I won't fire on you unless the peacetalks end and there is no peace, or you begin becoming an issue.


I have those as well.

Hell, with your tech rating you probably have those and then some.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to International Incidents

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Domanania, GreatOceania, Ioudaia, Lauzanne, Nishikaigan, Syrvanian Republic

Advertisement

Remove ads