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Second Helghan Empire
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:48 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
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I'm having some of them explode. Three Petrusite cruisers are overloading their acceleration guns.

I'll just have Ristuko turn one off, and we can escape the rest.


It doesn't quite work like that. The explosions from these three weapons would then detonate the remaining Petrusite charges and they would cause damage to the remaining ships which could cause more explosions across the board they are very tightly packed together. It would cause a chain reaction. Many men are sadly being left behind because the transports are fleeing.
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:53 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:I'll just have Ristuko turn one off, and we can escape the rest.


It doesn't quite work like that. The explosions from these three weapons would then detonate the remaining Petrusite charges and they would cause damage to the remaining ships which could cause more explosions across the board they are very tightly packed together. It would cause a chain reaction. Many men are sadly being left behind because the transports are fleeing.

Then I have an alternate solution. We put a tomahawk into each ship. The explosion caused by a tomahawk sinking the ship won't be large enough to set the others off and it won't be as large as the ship exploding.

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Postby Esgonia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:59 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
It doesn't quite work like that. The explosions from these three weapons would then detonate the remaining Petrusite charges and they would cause damage to the remaining ships which could cause more explosions across the board they are very tightly packed together. It would cause a chain reaction. Many men are sadly being left behind because the transports are fleeing.

Then I have an alternate solution. We put a tomahawk into each ship. The explosion caused by a tomahawk sinking the ship won't be large enough to set the others off and it won't be as large as the ship exploding.

And now I have the urge to have some of the F/A-18's to be fitted with Napalm in order to destroy the ship, and possibly eliminating any traces of the harmful element.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:00 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
It doesn't quite work like that. The explosions from these three weapons would then detonate the remaining Petrusite charges and they would cause damage to the remaining ships which could cause more explosions across the board they are very tightly packed together. It would cause a chain reaction. Many men are sadly being left behind because the transports are fleeing.

Then I have an alternate solution. We put a tomahawk into each ship. The explosion caused by a tomahawk sinking the ship won't be large enough to set the others off and it won't be as large as the ship exploding.


....

You realize something doesn't just overload right. Either a critical error was made and it was an unavoidable single incident or it was put into action. Like you know to cover something up.... like the components needed to develop petrusite weapons and technology.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:00 pm

Esgonia wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:Then I have an alternate solution. We put a tomahawk into each ship. The explosion caused by a tomahawk sinking the ship won't be large enough to set the others off and it won't be as large as the ship exploding.

And now I have the urge to have some of the F/A-18's to be fitted with Napalm in order to destroy the ship, and possibly eliminating any traces of the harmful element.


If that is your goal them let them blow.
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Postby Esgonia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:04 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Esgonia wrote:And now I have the urge to have some of the F/A-18's to be fitted with Napalm in order to destroy the ship, and possibly eliminating any traces of the harmful element.


If that is your goal them let them blow.

So, Napalm can't do anything against Petrusite? Because I plan to dispose of the Petrusite the same way as wiping out Anthrax.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:06 pm

Esgonia wrote:
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If that is your goal them let them blow.

So, Napalm can't do anything against Petrusite? Because I plan to dispose of the Petrusite the same way as wiping out Anthrax.


what? not what I meant. but still it is in cannisters, It could be eliminated by napalm but it would take cracking open the shells first because most are in the lower parts of the ship.
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:08 pm

since I am still neutral, for now anyway, I still think letting me hold the vessels is better than just destroying them.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:08 pm

Urran wrote:since I am still neutral, for now anyway, I still think letting me hold the vessels is better than just destroying them.


what the ships are in the process of overloading as it is what do you want to hold onto?
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:13 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Urran wrote:since I am still neutral, for now anyway, I still think letting me hold the vessels is better than just destroying them.


what the ships are in the process of overloading as it is what do you want to hold onto?


yep.
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Postby The Federation of Democratic Regions » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:14 pm

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:50 pm

Urran wrote:since I am still neutral, for now anyway, I still think letting me hold the vessels is better than just destroying them.

And I'm keeping one of the two carriers as a trophy ship. I'll let Esgonia have the other one.

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:54 pm

Dick move, Helghan. Dick move.

since you couldn't hold up your end of the agreement, I don't think I have to hold up mine.

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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:55 pm

Azen keeps forgetting to respond to me. My feels are hurt.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:17 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:Dick move, Helghan. Dick move.

since you couldn't hold up your end of the agreement, I don't think I have to hold up mine.


WTF you can't possibly know they are the ones that detonated the explosion as far as you know the Petrusite weapon explosions caused a overload in the Petrusite engines, either way you just killed thousands of unarmed noncombatants, whats more is they weren't suicide ships man, they were just scuttled.
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:22 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:Dick move, Helghan. Dick move.

since you couldn't hold up your end of the agreement, I don't think I have to hold up mine.


WTF you can't possibly know they are the ones that detonated the explosion as far as you know the Petrusite weapon explosions caused a overload in the Petrusite engines, either way you just killed thousands of unarmed noncombatants, whats more is they weren't suicide ships man, they were just scuttled.

We had agreed to allow our forces to keep your ships. No scuttling. The fact that they are now sinking from internal explosions says that they are being sunk by your hand. Scuttling your own ship is considered a hostile action if it is to prevent that ship from falling into your enemies hands. From my perspective, I was betrayed. Traitors get what traitors deserve. Survivors will be detained as POWs and delivered to UoAE as agreed. The entry into the logs is for official record keeping. If you edit your post, I will delete mine.

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:23 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
WTF you can't possibly know they are the ones that detonated the explosion as far as you know the Petrusite weapon explosions caused a overload in the Petrusite engines, either way you just killed thousands of unarmed noncombatants, whats more is they weren't suicide ships man, they were just scuttled.

We had agreed to allow our forces to keep your ships. No scuttling. The fact that they are now sinking from internal explosions says that they are being sunk by your hand. Scuttling your own ship is considered a hostile action if it is to prevent that ship from falling into your enemies hands. From my perspective, I was betrayed. Traitors get what traitors deserve. Survivors will be detained as POWs and delivered to UoAE as agreed. The entry into the logs is for official record keeping. If you edit your post, I will delete mine.


Yes internal as in where my ship's munitions, and volatile experimental engine system are.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:24 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:We had agreed to allow our forces to keep your ships. No scuttling. The fact that they are now sinking from internal explosions says that they are being sunk by your hand. Scuttling your own ship is considered a hostile action if it is to prevent that ship from falling into your enemies hands. From my perspective, I was betrayed. Traitors get what traitors deserve. Survivors will be detained as POWs and delivered to UoAE as agreed. The entry into the logs is for official record keeping. If you edit your post, I will delete mine.


Yes internal as in where my ship's munitions, and volatile experimental engine system are.


Also scuttling is not a hostile action it is a very neutral action, I just blew up billions of dollars my nation spent and killed many straggling men what have you lost but the desire of your greed?
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:27 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:We had agreed to allow our forces to keep your ships. No scuttling. The fact that they are now sinking from internal explosions says that they are being sunk by your hand. Scuttling your own ship is considered a hostile action if it is to prevent that ship from falling into your enemies hands. From my perspective, I was betrayed. Traitors get what traitors deserve. Survivors will be detained as POWs and delivered to UoAE as agreed. The entry into the logs is for official record keeping. If you edit your post, I will delete mine.


Yes internal as in where my ship's munitions, and volatile experimental engine system are.

And the crew has no idea how to operate them? They were told to remain with their ship if they were essential personnel. The explosions had to be deliberate.

I know my position. The agreement was for some of your men to be taken as POWs and the ships as trophies. The remainder would be allowed to return. The agreement was broken. You were no longer protected by the conditions of the ceasefire.

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:33 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
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Yes internal as in where my ship's munitions, and volatile experimental engine system are.

And the crew has no idea how to operate them? They were told to remain with their ship if they were essential personnel. The explosions had to be deliberate.

I know my position. The agreement was for some of your men to be taken as POWs and the ships as trophies. The remainder would be allowed to return. The agreement was broken. You were no longer protected by the conditions of the ceasefire.


NO the agreement was my men would abandon the ships as per your request. I stated their were teams trying to stop the Petrusite weapons from overloading and that until that point everyone needed to get away. Well how would you know my teams detonated bombs in the ships? The main crews were gone the men who would crew it had gone, all but a few stragglers to the transports were gone, and so you have no IC way to know I destroyed them you METAgamed.
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:36 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:And the crew has no idea how to operate them? They were told to remain with their ship if they were essential personnel. The explosions had to be deliberate.

I know my position. The agreement was for some of your men to be taken as POWs and the ships as trophies. The remainder would be allowed to return. The agreement was broken. You were no longer protected by the conditions of the ceasefire.


NO the agreement was my men would abandon the ships as per your request. I stated their were teams trying to stop the Petrusite weapons from overloading and that until that point everyone needed to get away. Well how would you know my teams detonated bombs in the ships? The main crews were gone the men who would crew it had gone, all but a few stragglers to the transports were gone, and so you have no IC way to know I destroyed them you METAgamed.

The agreement was that I would take your ships under tow with essential crew. Read the dialogue. Why would the cruisers and carriers explode? They do not possess Petrusite weapons.

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:39 pm

Very well, I will edit my post.

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:42 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:
NO the agreement was my men would abandon the ships as per your request. I stated their were teams trying to stop the Petrusite weapons from overloading and that until that point everyone needed to get away. Well how would you know my teams detonated bombs in the ships? The main crews were gone the men who would crew it had gone, all but a few stragglers to the transports were gone, and so you have no IC way to know I destroyed them you METAgamed.

The agreement was that I would take your ships under tow with essential crew. Read the dialogue. Why would the cruisers and carriers explode? They do not possess Petrusite weapons.


The Carrier has large amounts of Petrusite bombs and missiles for the planes, and Experimental Petrusite engines. The destroyers were placed right next to the Petrusite carriers and didn't even have explosives placed on them, their damage was done from proximity,

also the explosives were simply placed around the petrusite weapons and engines in the Carriers to cause them to explode what gutted the ships wasn't the explosions from the bombs they were from the Petrusite detonations.
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:43 pm

Free Asian Ports wrote:Very well, I will edit my post.


Thank you, I know you will eventually repair at least one of the carriers anyway, and you do get the destroyers that survived. It wasn't really an attempt to stop you from getting the ships btw, We couldn't lose the petrusite to the enemy.
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:45 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:The agreement was that I would take your ships under tow with essential crew. Read the dialogue. Why would the cruisers and carriers explode? They do not possess Petrusite weapons.


The Carrier has large amounts of Petrusite bombs and missiles for the planes, and Experimental Petrusite engines. The destroyers were placed right next to the Petrusite carriers and didn't even have explosives placed on them, their damage was done from proximity,

also the explosives were simply placed around the petrusite weapons and engines in the Carriers to cause them to explode what gutted the ships wasn't the explosions from the bombs they were from the Petrusite detonations.

That's a sign of poor munitions handling. Your Navy may be incompetent. Not as bad as WPT's, but incompetent nonetheless.

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