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Maybe I'll just see if China will open up.

Name: Republic of Germany
Head of State: Joachim Gauck
Head of Government: Angela Merkel
Ideology: Democracy
Government type: Left wing

Manticoran empire, if you were a Nigerian empire containing Nigeria, Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Togo, Benin, Ghana, and Burkina Faso, you'd have a population of 295,080,000. But maybe throw in a little more to bump it to 300,000,000 could be fine.

That is, if OP would let you have that land. But not many in Africa. Plus it's AH, so maybe you could say when Nigeria got independence, it inspired rebellions in neighboring countries which gained independence, which Nigeria promptly invaded.

You could also have Nigeria a but more modernized, saying that USA supported your rule and funded you to secure a powerful ally in Africa.

Gyrenaica wrote:Manticoran empire, if you were a Nigerian empire containing Nigeria, Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Togo, Benin, Ghana, and Burkina Faso, you'd have a population of 295,080,000. But maybe throw in a little more to bump it to 300,000,000 could be fine.

That is, if OP would let you have that land. But not many in Africa. Plus it's AH, so maybe you could say when Nigeria got independence, it inspired rebellions in neighboring countries which gained independence, which Nigeria promptly invaded.

OK. I'll do that instead. It will lead to fewer arguments.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Gyrenaica wrote:Manticoran empire, if you were a Nigerian empire containing Nigeria, Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Togo, Benin, Ghana, and Burkina Faso, you'd have a population of 295,080,000. But maybe throw in a little more to bump it to 300,000,000 could be fine.

That is, if OP would let you have that land. But not many in Africa. Plus it's AH, so maybe you could say when Nigeria got independence, it inspired rebellions in neighboring countries which gained independence, which Nigeria promptly invaded.

OK. I'll do that instead. It will lead to fewer arguments.

Not to mention Nigeria has a decent sized oil supply.

Also, Ghana is the 8th largest diamond exporter in Africa. Togo is 15th.
Ghana is the 10tj biggest gold exporter in the world as well
Nigeria has the 9th largest natural gas reserves as well, and Ghana also has a decent natural gas reserves

Gyrenaica wrote:Also, Ghana is the 8th largest diamond exporter in Africa. Togo is 15th.
Ghana is the 10tj biggest gold exporter in the world as well
Nigeria has the 9th largest natural gas reserves as well, and Ghana also has a decent natural gas reserves

OK, OK, I get it. I'll be the Nigerian Empire.

Name: Nigerian Empire (as described by Gyrenaica, to whom I owe more than a few apologies)
Head of State/Government: Emperor Jonas Savimbi.
Ideology: Capitalism, Imperialism, Fascism
Government: Constitutional Federal Republic/Romanesque Empire

So, who are the active players at the moment?

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Gyrenaica wrote:Also, Ghana is the 8th largest diamond exporter in Africa. Togo is 15th.
Ghana is the 10tj biggest gold exporter in the world as well
Nigeria has the 9th largest natural gas reserves as well, and Ghana also has a decent natural gas reserves

OK, OK, I get it. I'll be the Nigerian Empire.

Name: Nigerian Empire (as described by Gyrenaica, to whom I owe more than a few apologies)
Head of State/Government: Emperor Jonas Savimbi.
Ideology: Capitalism, Imperialism, Fascism
Government: Constitutional Federal Republic/Romanesque Empire

No need for apologies. I just wanted to help you find what you wanted.

Kumbhalgarh wrote:Name: Republic of Germany
Head of State: Joachim Gauck
Head of Government: Angela Merkel
Ideology: Democracy
Government type: Left wing

Germany is already on the map, accepted.

Gyrenaica wrote:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:OK, OK, I get it. I'll be the Nigerian Empire.

Name: Nigerian Empire (as described by Gyrenaica, to whom I owe more than a few apologies)
Head of State/Government: Emperor Jonas Savimbi.
Ideology: Capitalism, Imperialism, Fascism
Government: Constitutional Federal Republic/Romanesque Empire

No need for apologies. I just wanted to help you find what you wanted.

I know I haven't been the easiest to work with, but I am trying, despite how frustrating I am.

Manticoran, millions of people will die in your invasion wars, before even mentioning the death tolls of the rebellions you inspired, the populations of your country will be far less than the combined total of the former countries, not the same, and definitely not 5 million more. Why do you want such an unreasonably high population anyways?

Crockerland wrote:Manticoran, millions of people will die in your invasion wars, before even mentioning the death tolls of the rebellions you inspired, the populations of your country will be far less than the combined total of the former countries, not the same, and definitely not 5 million more. Why do you want such an unreasonably high population anyways?

More People=Greater base of military age people which in turn leads to a larger potential military force. Also, you must realize that as time goes by, people do breed. Babies are made which grow into adults and make more babies. Need I really explain human reproduction?

Well I. Off

Manticoran's godmods, volume I:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Persian Forces have invaded Syria with an army of 460,800 men and women. The massive force has already reached the coast and is beginning to advance to the north and south, with some Western analysts believing Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Kurdistan, and Turkey are next.

Persian troops invade Syria and reach the coast within one post.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:The Mighty Persian Army, 3.6 million strong under the command of High Marshall Darius, including 460,800 Immortals (crack shock troops, much like United States Army Rangers or United States Marines), has been dispatched to Turkey while a second force under High Marshall Xerxes has been sent to the Iranian Border. An army of 460,800 Immortals have invaded Kuwait and are mere hours from victory.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Gyrenaica wrote:Its the teleportation of millions of troops in minutes, and your immortal army mainly.

Persian Immortals: A force of 10,000 elite troops who were called Immortals because they always maintained a force of 10,000, regardless of casualties in battle.

He specified that there were only 20,000 of them, no matter how many died, but now there are 460,000 of them.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Persian troops have begun a massive assault against the halted Coalition lines, breaking through in three areas: Baghdad, Mosul, and Ramadi. The Persian Army pushes forward, refusing to stop for anything as they struggle to turn the tide.

It's impossible to achieve a breakthrough like that in three areas, the allied coalition have air superiority, artillery, heavy armor and troops in all areas surrounding Manticoran's forces.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:A squadron of Persian Su-47s dropped almost 5,000 metric tons of bombs on the Iranian capital, killing an estimated 1750 civilians and wounding almost 5000. Similar airstrikes have been reported in Turkey and the Caliphate.

Iran is a major power, Manticoran can't just fly his bombers strait to the capital, completely undetected, and not be shot down.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Nope. I can go through occupied Iran, over the Caspian Sea, move along the Ural Mountains, cross the Urals North of Moscow and then, maintaining an altitude of no more than 60 meters, fly the distance to Moscow, rising to 10,000 meters 10-20 kilometers away from Moscow. ADS radar operators would see a bunch of blips on their screens and then one to three minutes later they are watching missile tracks as the attack begins. You attacked Baghdad and lost 8 aircraft. I attacked Moscow and lost 15 aircraft. This is a tit for tat air campaign and, if you haven't noticed, I only killed civvies. You managed to kill some of my High Command.

More capital destruction.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:In India, a group of Persian "refugees" approach a large gathering of people. In each of the thirty backbacks is 20 pounds of explosives. They took up positions throughout the crowd and look to make sure everyone is in position before detonating their packs. The explosions rip through the crowd, killing or maiming hundreds while obliterating the bombers. Similar attacks occur in several hostile cities in Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Turkey, The Caliphate, and Pakistan.

India, the Caliphate, Iran, Turkey, and Pakistan never said they were accepting refugees

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Alternate Australia
Population: 400 Million

No.



The only thing worse than the constant godmodding is that every time anyone points it out, usually Gyre, Manticoran throws a tantrum and declares it a personal attack on him and an authoritarian crackdown on his fun.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Gyrenaica wrote:If you want to rule over a lot of people, choose a nation with lots of people.

If they have a large population it's not godmodding. But if you just increase the nations populTion just to have it, it's godmodding.

I TRIED! BUT NO ONE WOULD LET ME HAVE THE USA! So instead I selected territory, which would allow for a large population but noooooooo! We are all too realistic to allow for that. Soviet Union can survive, despite that being so highly unlikely but heaven forbid Australia be allowed more than 40 million souls.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

New Spain Land wrote:this is kind of boring, i expected more opposition and nothing good is happening, im sorry i am also out. South Africa is now open, btw its military is now the largest in Africa thanks to me investing billions in it. Good Luck

Ya know what? I'll take South Africa. The other guy can have USA. For now.

Nice lie.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR wrote:
I wrote: "please stay sensibly realistic"...

Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Would be happier if I had an unreasonably LOW population? What is your problem with me?

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Apparently my very existence is a godmod.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:No. I'm not. Jesus. You must realize that if the reserves are called up, you're probably already screwed. A reserve force is only called up if active units are overwhelmed. And that isn't even what has me ticked. What has me ticked is that every single thing I have posted has been shot down as a godmod. EVERYTHING! It seems that I can't do anything right. NOTHING! DO YOU REALIZE THIS? YOU ARE ALL MAKING ME OUT TO BE SOME SORT OF CHEAT! ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS HAVE FUN AND YOU CAN'T LET ME DO THAT! What is the deal? I'm the only one who is consistently shot down. No one else is even capable of making a mistake and I can't do anything right. Tell me why? Why can't I do anything right? WHY? WHHHHYYYYYYYY?

Crockerland wrote:Manticoran's godmods, volume I:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Persian Forces have invaded Syria with an army of 460,800 men and women. The massive force has already reached the coast and is beginning to advance to the north and south, with some Western analysts believing Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Kurdistan, and Turkey are next.

Persian troops invade Syria and reach the coast within one post.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:The Mighty Persian Army, 3.6 million strong under the command of High Marshall Darius, including 460,800 Immortals (crack shock troops, much like United States Army Rangers or United States Marines), has been dispatched to Turkey while a second force under High Marshall Xerxes has been sent to the Iranian Border. An army of 460,800 Immortals have invaded Kuwait and are mere hours from victory.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Persian Immortals: A force of 10,000 elite troops who were called Immortals because they always maintained a force of 10,000, regardless of casualties in battle.

He specified that there were only 20,000 of them, no matter how many died, but now there are 460,000 of them.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Persian troops have begun a massive assault against the halted Coalition lines, breaking through in three areas: Baghdad, Mosul, and Ramadi. The Persian Army pushes forward, refusing to stop for anything as they struggle to turn the tide.

It's impossible to achieve a breakthrough like that in three areas, the allied coalition have air superiority, artillery, heavy armor and troops in all areas surrounding Manticoran's forces.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:A squadron of Persian Su-47s dropped almost 5,000 metric tons of bombs on the Iranian capital, killing an estimated 1750 civilians and wounding almost 5000. Similar airstrikes have been reported in Turkey and the Caliphate.

Iran is a major power, Manticoran can't just fly his bombers strait to the capital, completely undetected, and not be shot down.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Nope. I can go through occupied Iran, over the Caspian Sea, move along the Ural Mountains, cross the Urals North of Moscow and then, maintaining an altitude of no more than 60 meters, fly the distance to Moscow, rising to 10,000 meters 10-20 kilometers away from Moscow. ADS radar operators would see a bunch of blips on their screens and then one to three minutes later they are watching missile tracks as the attack begins. You attacked Baghdad and lost 8 aircraft. I attacked Moscow and lost 15 aircraft. This is a tit for tat air campaign and, if you haven't noticed, I only killed civvies. You managed to kill some of my High Command.

More capital destruction.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:In India, a group of Persian "refugees" approach a large gathering of people. In each of the thirty backbacks is 20 pounds of explosives. They took up positions throughout the crowd and look to make sure everyone is in position before detonating their packs. The explosions rip through the crowd, killing or maiming hundreds while obliterating the bombers. Similar attacks occur in several hostile cities in Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Turkey, The Caliphate, and Pakistan.

India, the Caliphate, Iran, Turkey, and Pakistan never said they were accepting refugees

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Alternate Australia
Population: 400 Million

No.



The only thing worse than the constant godmodding is that every time anyone points it out, usually Gyre, Manticoran throws a tantrum and declares it a personal attack on him and an authoritarian crackdown on his fun.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:I TRIED! BUT NO ONE WOULD LET ME HAVE THE USA! So instead I selected territory, which would allow for a large population but noooooooo! We are all too realistic to allow for that. Soviet Union can survive, despite that being so highly unlikely but heaven forbid Australia be allowed more than 40 million souls.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Ya know what? I'll take South Africa. The other guy can have USA. For now.

Nice lie.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Would be happier if I had an unreasonably LOW population? What is your problem with me?

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Apparently my very existence is a godmod.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:No. I'm not. Jesus. You must realize that if the reserves are called up, you're probably already screwed. A reserve force is only called up if active units are overwhelmed. And that isn't even what has me ticked. What has me ticked is that every single thing I have posted has been shot down as a godmod. EVERYTHING! It seems that I can't do anything right. NOTHING! DO YOU REALIZE THIS? YOU ARE ALL MAKING ME OUT TO BE SOME SORT OF CHEAT! ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS HAVE FUN AND YOU CAN'T LET ME DO THAT! What is the deal? I'm the only one who is consistently shot down. No one else is even capable of making a mistake and I can't do anything right. Tell me why? Why can't I do anything right? WHY? WHHHHYYYYYYYY?

And all anyone ever did was tell me what I couldn't do.

Now, while I do not deny anything that you posted, I do need you to notice that my initial war was ended because I COMPLIED with everyone else. A fact that you are conveniently omitting. And while I have expressed my lack of pleasure with people, I have complied with most requests. Hell, even my counteroffensive, which I said occurred in a sandstorm, was crushed as soon as the sandstorm let up. HOW IS THAT A GODMOD? Really the entire war on Persia was me ALLOWING the rest of you to godmod your way through it all because I wanted to avoid a debacle like what I had when I first started. But now I am seeing the true colors of NationStates. Everyone is just like North Arkana.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Now, while I do not deny anything that you posted, I do need you to notice that my initial war was ended because I COMPLIED with everyone else. A fact that you are conveniently omitting. And while I have expressed my lack of pleasure with people, I have complied with most requests. Hell, even my counteroffensive, which I said occurred in a sandstorm, was crushed as soon as the sandstorm let up. HOW IS THAT A GODMOD? Really the entire war on Persia was me ALLOWING the rest of you to godmod your way through it all because I wanted to avoid a debacle like what I had when I first started. But now I am seeing the true colors of NationStates. Everyone is just like North Arkana.

You asked me to post every godmod of yours, you never said to go into great detail about each one or exclude the ones you corrected. You just asked me to break down every single godmod of yours and explain how it was godmodding.
I never even attacked Persia, except after the war to take oil, don't blame me for what other RPrs do.

If you want to be Nigeria, that's fine, but you can't just take over a bunch of other countries and expect them to all comply. I never said you were a terrible RPr and should be kicked, I never said you didn't comply with the Eastern Coalition, I just said that your population was unreasonably high and that you needed to tone it down significantly. You asked me to compile your godmodding and I did.

Crockerland wrote:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Now, while I do not deny anything that you posted, I do need you to notice that my initial war was ended because I COMPLIED with everyone else. A fact that you are conveniently omitting. And while I have expressed my lack of pleasure with people, I have complied with most requests. Hell, even my counteroffensive, which I said occurred in a sandstorm, was crushed as soon as the sandstorm let up. HOW IS THAT A GODMOD? Really the entire war on Persia was me ALLOWING the rest of you to godmod your way through it all because I wanted to avoid a debacle like what I had when I first started. But now I am seeing the true colors of NationStates. Everyone is just like North Arkana.

You asked me to post every godmod of yours, you never said to go into great detail about each one or exclude the ones you corrected. You just asked me to break down every single godmod of yours and explain how it was godmodding.
I never even attacked Persia, except after the war to take oil, don't blame me for what other RPrs do.

I'm not. I am merely saying that, while I have done those things, I fixed what I could. My issue comes when literally EVERYTHING I post becomes a godmod. I really just want to know WHY I can't do anything right here. Why I just can't make this work.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Crockerland wrote:You asked me to post every godmod of yours, you never said to go into great detail about each one or exclude the ones you corrected. You just asked me to break down every single godmod of yours and explain how it was godmodding.
I never even attacked Persia, except after the war to take oil, don't blame me for what other RPrs do.

I'm not. I am merely saying that, while I have done those things, I fixed what I could. My issue comes when literally EVERYTHING I post becomes a godmod. I really just want to know WHY I can't do anything right here. Why I just can't make this work.

I only criticized 12 of your posts (I quoted 14 total but 2 of them were just contradictions), that's hardly everything you post. Gyre may have criticized a few other ones but I'm not gyre. Gyre has also been powerplaying

Gyrenaica wrote:Pakistan strongly condemns the Netherlands (sorry, forgot the name) for its aggressive war against Norway and threatens to intervene in favor of Norway. Right now, Pakistan has successfully pressured Iranian, Kuwaiti and Kurdish governments to halt their oil trade to the Dutch. Pakistan is also requesting that the caliphate also stops exporting to Netherlands, and place an immediate embargo. Pakistan itself has halted all trade to the aggressor.

But anyways, like I said, I'm fine with you being Nigeria, you just can't annex a population of tens of millions of people and not expect tens of millions of deaths.

Crockerland wrote:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:I'm not. I am merely saying that, while I have done those things, I fixed what I could. My issue comes when literally EVERYTHING I post becomes a godmod. I really just want to know WHY I can't do anything right here. Why I just can't make this work.

I only criticized 12 of your posts (I quoted 14 total but 2 of them were just contradictions), that's hardly everything you post. Gyre may have criticized a few other ones but I'm not gyre. Gyre has also been powerplaying

Gyrenaica wrote:Pakistan strongly condemns the Netherlands (sorry, forgot the name) for its aggressive war against Norway and threatens to intervene in favor of Norway. Right now, Pakistan has successfully pressured Iranian, Kuwaiti and Kurdish governments to halt their oil trade to the Dutch. Pakistan is also requesting that the caliphate also stops exporting to Netherlands, and place an immediate embargo. Pakistan itself has halted all trade to the aggressor.

But anyways, like I said, I'm fine with you being Nigeria, you just can't annex a population of tens of millions of people and not expect tens of millions of deaths.

I do think that tens of millions of death is a little high. But as I said earlier, people do reproduce.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Crockerland wrote:I only criticized 12 of your posts (I quoted 14 total but 2 of them were just contradictions), that's hardly everything you post. Gyre may have criticized a few other ones but I'm not gyre. Gyre has also been powerplaying

But anyways, like I said, I'm fine with you being Nigeria, you just can't annex a population of tens of millions of people and not expect tens of millions of deaths.

I do think that tens of millions of death is a little high. But as I said earlier, people do reproduce.

A lot of nations irl have had wars and their populations even after 25 years are crumbling.

Flauc wrote:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:I do think that tens of millions of death is a little high. But as I said earlier, people do reproduce.

A lot of nations irl have had wars and their populations even after 25 years are crumbling.

In the wake of World War II the countries that were not occupied by the Soviet Union quickly bounced back. If populations are still crumbling, that is because the war never really ended for one or both sides.

The Manticoran Empire wrote:

Flauc wrote:
A lot of nations irl have had wars and their populations even after 25 years are crumbling.

In the wake of World War II the countries that were not occupied by the Soviet Union quickly bounced back. If populations are still crumbling, that is because the war never really ended for one or both sides.

Nope.
Look at Russia's, Latvia's, China birth rate. Going down.

Flauc wrote:

The Manticoran Empire wrote:In the wake of World War II the countries that were not occupied by the Soviet Union quickly bounced back. If populations are still crumbling, that is because the war never really ended for one or both sides.

Nope.
Look at Russia's, Latvia's, China birth rate. Going down.

All of those were Communist nations that still have poor standards of living due to the Communist regimes.