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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:15 am

Genyulan wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:On what grounds? That I don't let you dictate me?

I think he's annoyed with how you're overdoing so much. Plus, a 1000% increase in population? What world is this? Definitely not earth, cause that's impossible. I don't want so sound rude, but can you please at least negotiate fair terms with this? If you want a big economy, and a big military, I would suggest not exceeding 3,000,000 personnel. If you had a 60,000,000 population, a 3,000,000 man army would be would be a mere 5% of your population. And you'd still have a large ass army. The vast majority of your military budget, however, would have to be spent on housing and feeding your troops.

Thank you. I seriosuly couldn't have said it better.

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Postby Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:13 am

BTW we need more non-state organisations. Catholic Church for example.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:13 am

Way to take all the fun outta everything. Fine.
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Postby Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:19 am

Flauc TGd me and wishes to play as Latvian independence movement.

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Postby Flauc » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:21 am

And I will!
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:30 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Way to take all the fun outta everything. Fine.

Sorry for not letting you godmod. God modding is like sooo much fun.

Oh wait.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:33 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Way to take all the fun outta everything. Fine.

Sorry for not letting you godmod. God modding is like sooo much fun.

Oh wait.

Oh so wanting to rule over a lot of people is god mod? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:36 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:Sorry for not letting you godmod. God modding is like sooo much fun.

Oh wait.

Oh so wanting to rule over a lot of people is god mod? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

If you want to rule over a lot of people, choose a nation with lots of people.

If they have a large population it's not godmodding. But if you just increase the nations populTion just to have it, it's godmodding.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:38 am

Also, for those who are wondering
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot= WHat the fuck, but in military speaking thing. Kind of like 22:00 is 10:00

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Postby Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:40 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:Sorry for not letting you godmod. God modding is like sooo much fun.

Oh wait.

Oh so wanting to rule over a lot of people is god mod? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?


I wrote: "please stay sensibly realistic"...

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:42 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Oh so wanting to rule over a lot of people is god mod? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

If you want to rule over a lot of people, choose a nation with lots of people.

If they have a large population it's not godmodding. But if you just increase the nations populTion just to have it, it's godmodding.

I TRIED! BUT NO ONE WOULD LET ME HAVE THE USA! So instead I selected territory, which would allow for a large population but noooooooo! We are all too realistic to allow for that. Soviet Union can survive, despite that being so highly unlikely but heaven forbid Australia be allowed more than 40 million souls.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:44 am

Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Oh so wanting to rule over a lot of people is god mod? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?


I wrote: "please stay sensibly realistic"...

Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.
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Postby Flauc » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:48 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR wrote:
I wrote: "please stay sensibly realistic"...

Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.



Thing is, this is an RP designed for the fact that the USSR survived. Did you even read the introduction?

USSR could have held on it's teritories if Gorbachev wouldn't do the perestroika, and even if the soviets shot the citizens of ex: Latvia, it'd be easy to keep hold.
About the economy.. well, even if it is bad, and people revolt, the army can just shoot them.

I however agree that Australia should be allowed more people. It's almost as large as the USA.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:50 am

Flauc wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.



Thing is, this is an RP designed for the fact that the USSR survived. Did you even read the introduction?

USSR could have held on it's teritories if Gorbachev wouldn't do the perestroika, and even if the soviets shot the citizens of ex: Latvia, it'd be easy to keep hold.
About the economy.. well, even if it is bad, and people revolt, the army can just shoot them.

I however agree that Australia should be allowed more people. It's almost as large as the USA.

I read the description, yes. I've been here, more or less being told that my very existence is a godmod, for the last week or so.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:52 am

Flauc wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Sensibly realistic? In an RP that, because the Soviet Union still exists, IS ALREADY UNREALISTIC? Um, right. Sensibly realistic in an alternate universe.



Thing is, this is an RP designed for the fact that the USSR survived. Did you even read the introduction?

USSR could have held on it's teritories if Gorbachev wouldn't do the perestroika, and even if the soviets shot the citizens of ex: Latvia, it'd be easy to keep hold.
About the economy.. well, even if it is bad, and people revolt, the army can just shoot them.

I however agree that Australia should be allowed more people. It's almost as large as the USA.

I agree with Genyulan, maybe 60 million. As a compromise. But just this once!

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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:53 am

Genyulan wrote:I've scanned this thread, and I don't want to sound rude, manticoran empire, but they have been thorough with this: it's real life stats, with little variations.

They have repeated this numerous times. Maybe increase it a bit to up to 60 million by accepting million of refugees during world war 2. You know, how a large German population migrated to USA. Maybe some migrated to Australia. And those wars in the Mid East, maybe instead of most going to Western Europe and USA, Canada. Several millions migrate to Oceania for their amazing and vibrant economy, civil rights, etc. I get that you are doing alt history, but alt history doesn't change the demographics of the areas...

Maybe he could have large German population as well with the USA. And also throw in maybe they accepted millions of Muslim refugees.

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Postby Kumbhalgarh » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:54 am

Name: India
Head of State: Pranab Mukherjee
Head of Government: PM Narendra Modi
Ideology: Democracy
Government type: Hindu Nationalist.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:55 am

Oy maybe be Nigeria. They have a population of 188,000,000. Then maybe throw on Niger and a couple other nations around it, and you'd have a nice population of 200,000,000+

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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:55 am

Kumbhalgarh wrote:Name: India
Head of State: Pranab Mukherjee
Head of Government: PM Narendra Modi
Ideology: Democracy
Government type: Hindu Nationalist.

Taken

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Postby Kumbhalgarh » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:56 am

Can I be japan then?
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कुंभलगढ़ के राजपूत किंगडम

We have one of the most powerful Militaries in the Nationstates world.
The DEMONYM of Kumbhalgarh is Rajput.
We are a proud and indepedent nation.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:56 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
Flauc wrote:

Thing is, this is an RP designed for the fact that the USSR survived. Did you even read the introduction?

USSR could have held on it's teritories if Gorbachev wouldn't do the perestroika, and even if the soviets shot the citizens of ex: Latvia, it'd be easy to keep hold.
About the economy.. well, even if it is bad, and people revolt, the army can just shoot them.

I however agree that Australia should be allowed more people. It's almost as large as the USA.

I agree with Genyulan, maybe 60 million. As a compromise. But just this once!

OK. And what must I do for this bargain?
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By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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Postby Kumbhalgarh » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:57 am

Or Germany then?
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We have one of the most powerful Militaries in the Nationstates world.
The DEMONYM of Kumbhalgarh is Rajput.
We are a proud and indepedent nation.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:57 am

Nothing really, you'll just have a larger European population, and also millions of Muslims.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:57 am

Kumbhalgarh wrote:Or Germany then?

Sure. They haven't posted in a while. If at all

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Postby Soviet Socialist Republics-USSR » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:58 am

Kumbhalgarh wrote:Can I be japan then?

Taken too.

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