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Montreal Island War for Independence (IC/OPEN/SIGNUP)

Postby United Athena Islands » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:13 pm

On September 15th, 2015, a referendum was held on one of the 5 islands of the UAI, the Montreal Island. This following question was asked to the public:
"Do you want the Montreal island to become an independent nation, cut from all ties with the United Athena Islands?"

After the votes were counted, 67% of the population wanted operation. However, the Athenian parliament passed a new bill, The Separation Act, the night after the election stating that separation must have 75% of the population's approval, therefore invalidating Montreal's victory. The people were outraged. The population quickly split into two groups: the federalists (ones who want to stay part of Athenia, and the nationalists, those who want to separate). Tensions rose, and the Athenian government sent troops to patrol the island. Things then got out of hand. Riots broke out, and the country was brought into a civil war. Citizens have been seen taking shelter in neighbouring Jamaica Island. The Montreal separatists claim that the Athenian military is conducting airstrikes on the island, but nothing has been confirmed.

The Montreal separatists demand:
- The continuation of the fair and democratic separation of the island
- That the government abolish the Separation Act
- That the Athenian government withdraw its troops from the island

The Athenian government demands:
- That the island remains part of the union until 75% approval
- The halting of the rebel attacks
- The return to the peaceful state that Athenia has been in since its creation

The two governments have not met to discuss the crisis, and nothing shows that it will happen soon. The Athenian government has put the nation under martial law until the civil war has ended. Both sides are requisition aid from the international community.

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Maximum of 150,000 troops per nation allowed
No biological, chemical or nuclear weapons
Peacekeeping forces must not engage on passive targets
Taking different factors into account, I will decide who the winner is at the end
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Postby Halfblakistan » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:35 pm

Full nation name: The Cooperative Republic of Halfblakistan
Head of government: Selim Wolker
Minister of Defence: General Sebastian Porter (ret.)
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Luciana Sabar
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: The creation of an independent, socialist republic on the Island of Montreal
Military aid: One section of AWU-7 commandos, one Wolker-class Amphibious Assault Ship carrying 1,250 soldiers and 2 Sea Kovas fighters, two Harmony-class cruisers
Non-military aid: 6 months worth of MREs, one meal per day for every Montreal rebel willing to align with socialism
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Postby United Athena Islands » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:56 pm

Halfblakistan wrote:Full nation name: The Cooperative Republic of Halfblakistan
Head of government: Selim Wolker
Minister of Defence: General Sebastian Porter (ret.)
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Luciana Sabar
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: The creation of an independent, socialist republic on the Island of Montreal
Military aid: One section of AWU-7 commandos, one Wolker-class Amphibious Assault Ship carrying 1,250 soldiers and 2 Sea Kovas fighters, two Harmony-class cruisers
Non-military aid: 6 months worth of MREs, one meal per day for every Montreal rebel willing to align with socialism


Accepted, I will open the RP thread once more people join.

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Postby Azenyanistan » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:33 am

United Athena Islands wrote:On September 15th, 2015, a referendum was held on one of the 5 islands of the UAI, the Montreal Island. This following question was asked to the public:
"Do you want the Montreal island to become an independent nation, cut from all ties with the United Athena Islands?"

After the votes were counted, 67% of the population wanted operation. However, the Athenian parliament passed a new bill, The Separation Act, the night after the election stating that separation must have 75% of the population's approval, therefore invalidating Montreal's victory. The people were outraged. The population quickly split into two groups: the federalists (ones who want to stay part of Athenia, and the nationalists, those who want to separate). Tensions rose, and the Athenian government sent troops to patrol the island. Things then got out of hand. Riots broke out, and the country was brought into a civil war. Citizens have been seen taking shelter in neighbouring Jamaica Island. The Montreal separatists claim that the Athenian military is conducting airstrikes on the island, but nothing has been confirmed.

The Montreal separatists demand:
- The continuation of the fair and democratic separation of the island
- That the government abolish the Separation Act
- That the Athenian government withdraw its troops from the island

The Athenian government demands:
- That the island remains part of the union until 75% approval
- The halting of the rebel attacks
- The return to the peaceful state that Athenia has been in since its creation

The two governments have not met to discuss the crisis, and nothing shows that it will happen soon. The Athenian government has put the nation under martial law until the civil war has ended. Both sides are requisition aid from the international community.

RULES
Maximum of 150,000 troops per nation allowed
No biological, chemical or nuclear weapons
Peacekeeping forces must not engage on passive targets
Taking different factors into account, I will decide who the winner is at the end
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Is it possible for Azens to join unofficially? For example: Azen citizens willfully go to your lands to fight with or without permission from the government

like Syria or Iraq

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Postby Metcalfer2 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:57 am

Full nation name: The Empire of Metcalfer
Head of government: Kaiser William Metcalfe the Dacorex
Minister of Defence: Karl George
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Helga Grosser
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: to weaken the nation of Athenia for future conquests and to try and gain Montreal.
Military aid: 50,000 troops, 3 Leviathan destroyers, 1 Kraken aircraft carrier, 300 tanks, 500 APV's and one aircraft legion
Non-military aid: food and shelter for freedom fighters who fight for the Metcalfern empire

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Postby The former colony of Tropico » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:42 am

Full nation name: The Republic of Tropico

Head of government: Presidente Marcos Losada

Minister of Defence: Generalissimo Salvadore Montealegre

Minister of Foreign Affairs: Minister Maureo Benavidez

Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal

Reason for orientation: To spread Tropican socialism to a possible ally and to liberate the unfairly oppressed islanders or at least liberate the islanders and let them elect their oppressors instead.

Military aid: TNSS Presidente Aircraft Carrier with air wing, 2 Penultimo class Destroyers, 1st Tropican Army Rangers Division with landing craft, 1st and 2nd Tropican Army Divisions with landing craft

Non-military aid: The setting up of aid camps where Tropican volunteers will provide food, medicine, shelter and religious counsel to any civilians in need on the island without bias, several groups of Tropican Police and SWAT members have volunteered to help maintain civil order on the island.

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Postby Azenyanistan » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:54 am

Full nation name: The People of Azenyanistan
Head of government: Oasis
Minister of Defence: Tanya
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Akilias (Secretary of The Speaker)
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Both, will ONLY be putting PEACEKEEPERS and SECURITY FORCES into the spaces of both groups
Reason for orientation: To ensure no one from both sides die needlessly and to ensure that peace and security can return without the disturbance of any other country besides the 2 factions.
Military aid: 11 Type 1 Helicopters each with 2 ANA infantry squads and 2 Azen-GALAN infantry squads and 1 ANA medical squad
22 Type 1 Helicopters for carrying non-military aid
Non-military aid: $777,777 to Montreal and $7,000,000 more sooner or later as well as 11 truckloads of food and water
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Postby Floppieland » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:45 am

Full nation name: Floppieland
Head of government: Halli Schnur
Minister of Defence: Frank Zuraw
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Ludger Gotti
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: Helping Montreal become a free state.
Military aid: 1000 soldiers, 50 tanks and 5 Zeppelins
Non-military aid: 1000kg grain
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Postby Murovanka » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:48 am

Full nation name: People's Republic of Wanka
Head of government: Heinrich Sonneborn
Minister of Defence: Rudolf Hintner
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Heinrich von Preisen
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Both
Reason for orientation: Seek to destabilize and gain influence the region in hope of being able to in future take a leading role in determining the outcome of events.
Military aid: Intelligence support to Athenia (including weapons and arms development deals); intelligence, arms, military advisors and trainers to the Montreal rebels
Non-military aid: Basic food, ammunition and fuel supplies toward Montreal along with financial support

Essentially the opposite to what Azenyenistan is doing. We're here to make the situation worse.
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Postby Nerodanus » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:43 pm

Full nation name: The Neo Jingoistic Dictatorship of Nerodanus
Head of government: Joshua Stukov
Minister of Defence: Vald Leon
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Skylar Zhula
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: Nerodanus believes that what the Athenian Government has done is wrong as the bill was passed after the vote takes place, not before it and shouldn't apply to Montreal
Military aid: 5000 Soldier's including Air Force, Navy and Tanks.
2400 in the Navy
500 in the airforce (Nerodanus planes take up to 5 people each at a minimum)
2100 In the Army (tanks take up to 7 people)
Non-military aid: 1000 Medical Workers who have the latest in Nerodanusian Medical equipment all stored inside a Medical Airship
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Postby Nerodanus » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:47 pm

Nerodanus wrote:Full nation name: The Neo Jingoistic Dictatorship of Nerodanus
Head of government: Joshua Stukov
Minister of Defence: Vald Leon
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Skylar Zhula
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Athenia
Reason for orientation: Nerodanus believes that what the Athenian Government has done no wrong as the bill was passed before independence was fully declared and another vote should be held.
Military aid: 5000 Soldier's including Air Force, Navy and Tanks.
2400 in the Navy
500 in the airforce (Nerodanus planes take up to 5 people each at a minimum)
2100 In the Army (tanks take up to 7 people)
Non-military aid: 1000 Medical Workers who have the latest in Nerodanusian Medical equipment all stored inside a Medical Airship
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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:16 am

Metcalfer2 wrote:Full nation name: The Empire of Metcalfer
Head of government: Kaiser William Metcalfe the Dacorex
Minister of Defence: Karl George
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Helga Grosser
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: to weaken the nation of Athenia for future conquests and to try and gain Montreal.
Military aid: 50,000 troops, 3 Leviathan destroyers, 1 Kraken aircraft carrier, 300 tanks, 500 APV's and one aircraft legion
Non-military aid: food and shelter for freedom fighters who fight for the Metcalfern empire

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Accepted.

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:16 am

The former colony of Tropico wrote:Full nation name: The Republic of Tropico

Head of government: Presidente Marcos Losada

Minister of Defence: Generalissimo Salvadore Montealegre

Minister of Foreign Affairs: Minister Maureo Benavidez

Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal

Reason for orientation: To spread Tropican socialism to a possible ally and to liberate the unfairly oppressed islanders or at least liberate the islanders and let them elect their oppressors instead.

Military aid: TNSS Presidente Aircraft Carrier with air wing, 2 Penultimo class Destroyers, 1st Tropican Army Rangers Division with landing craft, 1st and 2nd Tropican Army Divisions with landing craft

Non-military aid: The setting up of aid camps where Tropican volunteers will provide food, medicine, shelter and religious counsel to any civilians in need on the island without bias, several groups of Tropican Police and SWAT members have volunteered to help maintain civil order on the island.


Accepted.

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Montreal Island War for Independence (IC/OPEN/SIGNUP)

Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:16 am

Azenyanistan wrote:Full nation name: The People of Azenyanistan
Head of government: Oasis
Minister of Defence: Tanya
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Akilias (Secretary of The Speaker)
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Both, will ONLY be putting PEACEKEEPERS and SECURITY FORCES into the spaces of both groups
Reason for orientation: To ensure no one from both sides die needlessly and to ensure that peace and security can return without the disturbance of any other country besides the 2 factions.
Military aid: 11 Type 1 Helicopters each with 2 ANA infantry squads and 2 Azen-GALAN infantry squads and 1 ANA medical squad
22 Type 1 Helicopters for carrying non-military aid
Non-military aid: $777,777 to Montreal and $7,000,000 more sooner or later as well as 11 truckloads of food and water


Accepted.

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:17 am

Floppieland wrote:Full nation name: Floppieland
Head of government: Halli Schnur
Minister of Defence: Frank Zuraw
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Ludger Gotti
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: Helping Montreal become a free state.
Military aid: 1000 soldiers, 50 tanks and 5 Zeppelins
Non-military aid: 1000kg grain


Accepted.

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:18 am

Murovanka wrote:Full nation name: People's Republic of Wanka
Head of government: Heinrich Sonneborn
Minister of Defence: Rudolf Hintner
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Heinrich von Preisen
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Both
Reason for orientation: Seek to destabilize and gain influence the region in hope of being able to in future take a leading role in determining the outcome of events.
Military aid: Intelligence support to Athenia (including weapons and arms development deals); intelligence, arms, military advisors and trainers to the Montreal rebels
Non-military aid: Basic food, ammunition and fuel supplies toward Montreal along with financial support

Essentially the opposite to what Azenyenistan is doing. We're here to make the situation worse.


Accepted

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:18 am

Nerodanus wrote:Full nation name: The Neo Jingoistic Dictatorship of Nerodanus
Head of government: Joshua Stukov
Minister of Defence: Vald Leon
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Skylar Zhula
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Montreal
Reason for orientation: Nerodanus believes that what the Athenian Government has done is wrong as the bill was passed after the vote takes place, not before it and shouldn't apply to Montreal
Military aid: 5000 Soldier's including Air Force, Navy and Tanks.
2400 in the Navy
500 in the airforce (Nerodanus planes take up to 5 people each at a minimum)
2100 In the Army (tanks take up to 7 people)
Non-military aid: 1000 Medical Workers who have the latest in Nerodanusian Medical equipment all stored inside a Medical Airship


Accepted

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:19 am

Azenyanistan wrote:
United Athena Islands wrote:On September 15th, 2015, a referendum was held on one of the 5 islands of the UAI, the Montreal Island. This following question was asked to the public:
"Do you want the Montreal island to become an independent nation, cut from all ties with the United Athena Islands?"

After the votes were counted, 67% of the population wanted operation. However, the Athenian parliament passed a new bill, The Separation Act, the night after the election stating that separation must have 75% of the population's approval, therefore invalidating Montreal's victory. The people were outraged. The population quickly split into two groups: the federalists (ones who want to stay part of Athenia, and the nationalists, those who want to separate). Tensions rose, and the Athenian government sent troops to patrol the island. Things then got out of hand. Riots broke out, and the country was brought into a civil war. Citizens have been seen taking shelter in neighbouring Jamaica Island. The Montreal separatists claim that the Athenian military is conducting airstrikes on the island, but nothing has been confirmed.

The Montreal separatists demand:
- The continuation of the fair and democratic separation of the island
- That the government abolish the Separation Act
- That the Athenian government withdraw its troops from the island

The Athenian government demands:
- That the island remains part of the union until 75% approval
- The halting of the rebel attacks
- The return to the peaceful state that Athenia has been in since its creation

The two governments have not met to discuss the crisis, and nothing shows that it will happen soon. The Athenian government has put the nation under martial law until the civil war has ended. Both sides are requisition aid from the international community.

RULES
Maximum of 150,000 troops per nation allowed
No biological, chemical or nuclear weapons
Peacekeeping forces must not engage on passive targets
Taking different factors into account, I will decide who the winner is at the end
Sign up from below.

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Head of government:
Minister of Defence:
Minister of Foreign Affairs:
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia):
Reason for orientation:
Military aid:
Non-military aid:


Is it possible for Azens to join unofficially? For example: Azen citizens willfully go to your lands to fight with or without permission from the government

like Syria or Iraq


Sure.

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Montreal Island War for Independence (IC/OPEN/SIGNUP)

Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:22 am


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Postby Augusticinia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:25 am

Are there cultural / social / political (etc.) differences between Montreal and the rest of the UAI?

This will decide what side I choose.
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Postby Azenyanistan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:30 am

Post coming later

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Postby Augusticinia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:34 am

Also why does Montreal Island want independence?

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Postby Iron Dynasty » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:24 am

United Athena Islands wrote:On September 15th, 2015, a referendum was held on one of the 5 islands of the UAI, the Montreal Island. This following question was asked to the public:
"Do you want the Montreal island to become an independent nation, cut from all ties with the United Athena Islands?"

After the votes were counted, 67% of the population wanted operation. However, the Athenian parliament passed a new bill, The Separation Act, the night after the election stating that separation must have 75% of the population's approval, therefore invalidating Montreal's victory. The people were outraged. The population quickly split into two groups: the federalists (ones who want to stay part of Athenia, and the nationalists, those who want to separate). Tensions rose, and the Athenian government sent troops to patrol the island. Things then got out of hand. Riots broke out, and the country was brought into a civil war. Citizens have been seen taking shelter in neighbouring Jamaica Island. The Montreal separatists claim that the Athenian military is conducting airstrikes on the island, but nothing has been confirmed.

The Montreal separatists demand:
- The continuation of the fair and democratic separation of the island
- That the government abolish the Separation Act
- That the Athenian government withdraw its troops from the island

The Athenian government demands:
- That the island remains part of the union until 75% approval
- The halting of the rebel attacks
- The return to the peaceful state that Athenia has been in since its creation

The two governments have not met to discuss the crisis, and nothing shows that it will happen soon. The Athenian government has put the nation under martial law until the civil war has ended. Both sides are requisition aid from the international community.

RULES
Maximum of 150,000 troops per nation allowed
No biological, chemical or nuclear weapons
Peacekeeping forces must not engage on passive targets
Taking different factors into account, I will decide who the winner is at the end
Sign up from below.


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Full nation name: The Empire of Iron Dynasty
Head of government: General Rain
Minister of Defence: General Steel
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Noah Baumgartner (Gen a.D.)
Side chosen (Montreal or Athenia): Publicy supporting Montreal, sending Support for Athenia
Reason for orientation: to reduce military power of allied nations, opening up a new market of weapons trade
Military aid:
10 Platoons of Anti Aircraft Infantry, 10 Pioneer Platoons with Anti-Tank and Anti-Personal mines, combined with support staff and mechanics roughly 2000 Soldiers
12 Submarines Midget Class
50.000 trained Guerillia fighters
30 Transportable Anti-Aircraft Systems
Non-military aid: none
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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:37 am

Augusticinia wrote:Are there cultural / social / political (etc.) differences between Montreal and the rest of the UAI?

This will decide what side I choose.


Montreal is a more French speaking island, with more capitalist views than the UAI. Montreal also wants to have a bigger army than the UAI and produce nuclear weapons. Montreal is also a more religious island, and wants to ban abortion and gay marriage, and wants the Church to control the education system. On the other hand, the UAI is a more socialist (but democratic) society, with a smaller but better paid and trained army. They also believe in more progressive and liberal ideas, such as the legalization of marijuana and abortion.

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Postby United Athena Islands » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:38 am

Augusticinia wrote:Also why does Montreal Island want independence?


They consider themselves to be distinct from the rest of the country. They just want to have full autonomy in controlling the region.

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