Azen Roleplay Discussion Thread (OPEN AND MT/PMT)

[The Jaclean Empire]

Each country gets a slice, then gives it up. After 15-20 years. Then Azen is reconstructed and we can stop getting in wars over it.

The slices in this RP? Then yes, but if your willing to sanction an ally..... That would be bad

I'd sanction if they tried to hold control of a nation that doesn't want foreign ownership.

[Cirilla]

The slices in this RP? Then yes, but if your willing to sanction an ally..... That would be bad

I'd sanction if they tried to hold control of a nation that doesn't want foreign ownership.

Sanctioning a ally? Anyways I'll give away my piece in 35 years at least.

[Western Pacific Territories]

I'd sanction if they tried to hold control of a nation that doesn't want foreign ownership.

Sanctioning a ally? Anyways I'll give away my piece in 35 years at least.

*shakes head disapprovingly*
Welp, you need to give it over the same time as everyone else your prestige will be lowered.

[Ganos Lao]

You guys can argue with turkey all you want, while the "imperialists" have everything already settled.

We're (Abishag and company) not arguing, really. We're just trying to wrap things up so we can get down to business.

I suggest that if a country doesn't give up all territory after 15-20 years then severe actions like sanctions, military action, etc.
Not IC.

It's merely realistic to assume some Turks would feel some sort of bond with my country after a decade or so of occupation. No doubt there will be those who consider being a part of Azeniyanistan a failed experiment and others would wonder why they can't go their own way.

As such, we'd hold a referendum to see where the loyalty of the majority of the population lies (union with us, going back to Azen or independence as their own separate state will be the options to vote for). We're not here to turn Turkey into Manchukuo or anything of that sort, but to add dimension to the storyline as a whole --- after all, in real life, there was a president of the Dominican Republic who tried to get nations to annex his country. The Northern Irish are firmly Unionist too.

So why not have the same for Turkey?

Besides, we really need to have a map made with a legend so everyone knows who owns what. Every colored piece of land on the map should be easily identifiable in terms of ownership.

[Cirilla]

Sanctioning a ally? Anyways I'll give away my piece in 35 years at least.

*shakes head disapprovingly*
Welp, you need to give it over the same time as everyone else your prestige will be lowered.

Giving back the land at 15 years is like 1/2 of a whole generation, they wouldn't have grown accustomed to their new way of life yet. Like new technology, cellular phones, high techy stuff. I will take my curriculum back and they would have to get a whole new way of the educational system during high school. And I know that would suck so much for them.

[Ganos Lao]

*shakes head disapprovingly*
Welp, you need to give it over the same time as everyone else your prestige will be lowered.

Giving back the land at 15 years is like 1/2 of a whole generation, they wouldn't have grown accustomed to their new way of life yet. Like new technology, cellular phones, high techy stuff.

I agree. We should make it so that enough time passes for them to do so first.

[Cirilla]

Giving back the land at 15 years is like 1/2 of a whole generation, they wouldn't have grown accustomed to their new way of life yet. Like new technology, cellular phones, high techy stuff.

We should make it so that enough time passes for them to do so first.

Thats what I'm saying

[Western Pacific Territories]

Hey Ganos, I found a guy who is willing to do logos for Azen Fried Chicken!

[Ganos Lao]

We should make it so that enough time passes for them to do so first.

Thats what I'm saying

I know. Was just concurring with you.

Besides, we want to also ensure the Azen children are able to soak up enough of the ideals of tolerance and understanding not to go back to the days where genocide was a legitimate means of expressing frustration, yes?

So we need as many years as possible to ensure that.

[Ganos Lao]

Hey Ganos, I found a guy who is willing to do logos for Azen Fried Chicken!

I noticed. I've lurked on that thread you were posting in. I'm down for making it happen. I'd probably the one to manage the storefront, though, since it'd be HQ'd in Ganosia. But Ivan can provide a review to put on the OP.

[Cirilla]

Thats what I'm saying

I know. Was just concurring with you.

Besides, we want to also ensure the Azen children are able to soak up enough of the ideals of tolerance and understanding not to go back to the days where genocide was a legitimate means of expressing frustration, yes?

So we need as many years as possible to ensure that.

Yes, that's why I said 35 years, at least a whole generation. Anymore generations I'm fine with sort-of in a way.

[Ganos Lao]

I know. Was just concurring with you.

Besides, we want to also ensure the Azen children are able to soak up enough of the ideals of tolerance and understanding not to go back to the days where genocide was a legitimate means of expressing frustration, yes?

So we need as many years as possible to ensure that.

Yes, that's why I said 35 years, at least a whole generation. Anymore generations I'm fine with sort-of in a way.

Indeed, or else otherwise all our efforts are for naught.

[Glacios]

This is isnt about teaching ideals and all that poop. This is reconstruction not re-education. This is giving them the infrastructure and economy they need to be a successful country , not remaking their thoughts and ideals.

[Ratte]

I know. Was just concurring with you.

Besides, we want to also ensure the Azen children are able to soak up enough of the ideals of tolerance and understanding not to go back to the days where genocide was a legitimate means of expressing frustration, yes?

So we need as many years as possible to ensure that.

Yes, that's why I said 35 years, at least a whole generation. Anymore generations I'm fine with sort-of in a way.

like the idea

[Cirilla]

This is isnt about teaching ideals and all that poop. This is reconstruction not re-education. This is giving them the infrastructure and economy they need to be a successful country , not remaking their thoughts and ideals.

How will they use all that infrastructure without the education needed to? Like giving someone a gun who doesn't know how to use it.

[Free Asian Ports]

This is isnt about teaching ideals and all that poop. This is reconstruction not re-education. This is giving them the infrastructure and economy they need to be a successful country , not remaking their thoughts and ideals.

How will they use all that infrastructure without the education needed to?

Any education is good enough for that, not "top-of-the-line best-in-the-world" stuff.

[Cirilla]

How will they use all that infrastructure without the education needed to?

Any education is good enough for that, not "top-of-the-line best-in-the-world" stuff.

The supply for engineers and etc would be limited by a lot, and reconstructing an entire country does not take a whole 15 years

[Western Pacific Territories]

Once again Ivan goes nuts.

[Free Asian Ports]

-snip-
If my country wanted we would annex you in less than a month!
-snip-

How are you going to invade me if all your 20 ships sink in 15 foot waves?

[Glacios]

I did not say they wouldnt be educated, but you shouldnt be using the education system to instill political ideals.

[Ratte]

:c i am always left of of speeches
FAP just let ganos have it, me and esgonia already talked about it and we agreed to let him have it to
all we want there anyways it just a place to trade things with other nations
plus i think having ganos be incharge is good for the SARA anyways

keep land out of imperialistic hands :/
nah the SARA purpose for turkey was for trade and it seems we will get that trade even if we dont obtain turkey
regardless i like the education system you guys are setting up
i wish my nation could do something to help with the reconstruction of azen
i guess i could be temp police force for now or do whatever i am assigned to

[Western Pacific Territories]

-snip-
If my country wanted we would annex you in less than a month!
-snip-

How are you going to invade me if all your 20 ships sink in 15 foot waves?

We have planes son. And stop referencing that, pls.

[Free Asian Ports]

:c i am always left of of speeches
FAP just let ganos have it, me and esgonia already talked about it and we agreed to let him have it to
all we want there anyways it just a place to trade things with other nations
plus i think having ganos be incharge is good for the SARA anyways

keep land out of imperialistic hands :/
nah the SARA purpose for turkey was for trade and it seems we will get that trade even if we dont obtain turkey
regardless i like the education system you guys are setting up
i wish my nation could do something to help with the reconstruction of azen
i guess i could be temp police force for now or do whatever i am assigned to

What I'm worried about is this "referendum" thing he wants to do. Why the hell should we give him the option of annexing Turkey at the end of the 15 years?

[Ratte]

How are you going to invade me if all your 20 ships sink in 15 foot waves?

We have planes son. And stop referencing that, pls.

it will forever haunt you until you get a better navy XD

[Western Pacific Territories]

We have planes son. And stop referencing that, pls.

it will forever haunt you until you get a better navy XD

It's not my fault I have no idea how large navy ships are compared to 15 feet waves.