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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:31 pm

Ardoki wrote:I don't really consider him attacking my country. It is just that I have had bad experiences with him in the past, and I'm probably irrationally paranoid and think he is trying to undermine me (probably he isn't though, but I don't really know).

How can you say so? Is it because we had a bad start in dealing with each other? People who can't move one from the past clearly shows they are not ready to grow from that time on. I'm done with everything way back, and I'd like to have everything new to go on and move forward.

Ever heard of the guy who uses space rangers to deter nukes while in terminal phase at Low Earth Orbit? Look at my sig so you may know what real OOC drama is.

You were not usually at the heat that I had been grilled into when OOC drama kicks in. You weren't there when I was in full Quirage when I am all but shouting to the microphone and justify the emotional breakdown I had been through. And YOU weren't there when I am telling honestly the real thing when OOC dramas are becoming excuse to make up from their IC incapabilities.

I saw the horror. Don't resurrect it. Peace in our time.

Ardoki wrote:He has acted terribly towards me OOCly before. I originally didn't want him involved, but I didn't want to say no and devoid the opposition of a player.

I thought he would be able to behave himself, perhaps he was/is. However I probably took his IC actions the wrong way, I initially thought it was a pre-meditated attempt to continue his OOC hostility in the IC-sphere. I could be wrong though.

I was even hesitant to join this RP because of that bad history you talk of, but history is history for me. If you still have that grudge, I can't help you with that. Only you can solve your own paranoia and be the silence of your own storm.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:35 pm

Quirina wrote:-Snip-

I am always welcome to giving second, and even third chances.

However after so many attempts and chances, you can't blame me for being wary of your intentions as not long ago you continued the same OOC hostility after I had forgiven you and let go of the past problems with our history.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:36 pm

Kvirina wrote:Ever heard of the guy who uses space rangers to deter nukes while in terminal phase at Low Earth Orbit? Look at my sig so you may know what real OOC drama is.


He actually used them to blow up satellites, not to detect them ;).

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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:38 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Quirina wrote:-Snip-

I am always welcome to giving second, and even third chances.

However after so many attempts and chances, you can't blame me for being wary of your intentions as not long ago you continued the same OOC hostility after I had forgiven you and let go of the past problems with our history.

The only "hostility" we had were discussions based on ideas and practices, which you might be taken seriously and personally, and in my side which is not a big deal.

So long as there are no people using puppets or secret accounts to justify their in-character goals, I'm good to be a long-term buddy.

New Aeyariss wrote:He actually used them to blow up satellites, not to detect them ;).

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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:38 pm

Okay.

I'll give you another chance, as you have not been overly OOCly hostile.

You are very lucky I forgive easily (I don't forget though).
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:44 pm

Ardoki wrote:Okay.

I'll give you another chance, as you have not been overly OOCly hostile.

You are very lucky I forgive easily (I don't forget though).

I wasn't, I can't and I have no right to, nor did I do any harm that you inflicted for yourself personally.

You viewed it as personal infringement of self-affirmation of your personal belief. I saw it as exchange of ideas.
You thought I am undermining you when I know how to trust anybody based on their actions.

Also, telling me I'm very lucky that you forgive easily is a sign of selfishness and lack of compassion. Though naturally people are selfish, you don't seem to understand the real meaning of forgiveness.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:47 pm

Quirina wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Okay.

I'll give you another chance, as you have not been overly OOCly hostile.

You are very lucky I forgive easily (I don't forget though).

I wasn't, I can't and I have no right to, nor did I do any harm that you inflicted for yourself personally.

You viewed it as personal infringement of self-affirmation of your personal belief. I saw it as exchange of ideas.
You thought I am undermining you when I know how to trust anybody based on their actions.

Also, telling me I'm very lucky that you forgive easily is a sign of selfishness and lack of compassion. Though naturally people are selfish, you don't seem to understand the real meaning of forgiveness.

I have no problems with people calling out my ideas, RPing stuff, realism, etcetera.

However the things you said, were personal attacks at worst and outright harassment at best.

However I'm not going to dwell on that any more. I suggest we don't speak of it any more, in this thread at lest.
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:52 pm

Ardoki wrote:I have no problems with people calling out my ideas, RPing stuff, realism, etcetera.

However the things you said, were personal attacks at worst and outright harassment at best.

However I'm not going to dwell on that any more. I suggest we don't speak of it any more, in this thread at lest.

I do hope you won't send space rangers in space and tell me they can detonate the nukes while in Low Earth Orbit.

So, should you continue the storyline of Sloane surrendering Thuasinisdun to UASR or what else can you think of?
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Postby Flardania » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:30 pm

Quirina wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I have no problems with people calling out my ideas, RPing stuff, realism, etcetera.

However the things you said, were personal attacks at worst and outright harassment at best.

However I'm not going to dwell on that any more. I suggest we don't speak of it any more, in this thread at lest.

I do hope you won't send space rangers in space and tell me they can detonate the nukes while in Low Earth Orbit.

So, should you continue the storyline of Sloane surrendering Thuasinisdun to UASR or what else can you think of?

Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:31 pm

Flardania wrote:
Quirina wrote:I do hope you won't send space rangers in space and tell me they can detonate the nukes while in Low Earth Orbit.

So, should you continue the storyline of Sloane surrendering Thuasinisdun to UASR or what else can you think of?

Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone


Stop being over-sensitive Flar.

Nobody has here any sinister plans, or even hate for Ardoki.

We are just pointing out what we do not like.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:32 pm

Flardania wrote:
Quirina wrote:I do hope you won't send space rangers in space and tell me they can detonate the nukes while in Low Earth Orbit.

So, should you continue the storyline of Sloane surrendering Thuasinisdun to UASR or what else can you think of?

Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone

Thank you Flardania. :)
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Postby Flardania » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:35 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Flardania wrote:Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone

Thank you Flardania. :)

Your not excluded either, but your welcome
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Flardania wrote:Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone


Stop being over-sensitive Flar.

Nobody has here any sinister plans, or even hate for Ardoki.

We are just pointing out what we do not like.

I'm not saying anything of the sort Cus. However when I finally log back in and I see almost 2 Pages worth of complaint, then Ardoki responds and then says let's drop it. then Person B come in with there own comment etc. Ardoki needs to just ask for this to be dropped without saying anything else but at the same time too there is no reason four 3 people s=to say almost the exact same thing. And I'm going to ignore that jab at me for all our benefit
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:41 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Flardania wrote:Qui chill all I'm noticing right now is an attempt at getting the last laugh, drop it means drop it. That goes for everyone


Stop being over-sensitive Flar.

Nobody has here any sinister plans, or even hate for Ardoki.

We are just pointing out what we do not like.


Flars right...

All this arguing is annoying and it just makes me sick. It's making me lose interest in the Rp and it hasn't even started.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:50 pm

Thoughts?
Ardoki wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
It will be pleasure to RP them if you promise me that you would not attempt changing the RP so you may win.

Yes.

That is why we are planning it now. So we all know what the situation is exactly, and how the story will basically develop (just a general outline, details not really needed).

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As before, the UASR took control of the two islands of Ballivor and Moy approximately one month before the diplomatic conference was called.
Moy is almost uninhabited (except for a dozen or so villages) and of no strategic value. Not sure if I'll still have troops stationed there, but will probably not.
Ballivor has a population of at least 5 million, it has a big tourism industry (located on the side facing Straffan Bay) ans the other side of the island faces the offshore oil fields now under UASR control. It is of a lot of strategic value, and is quite urbanised (the four cities on the map account for almost all of the population).
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:52 pm

Flar wrote:I'm not saying anything of the sort Cus. However when I finally log back in and I see almost 2 Pages worth of complaint, then Ardoki responds and then says let's drop it. then Person B come in with there own comment etc. Ardoki needs to just ask for this to be dropped without saying anything else but at the same time too there is no reason four 3 people s=to say almost the exact same thing. And I'm going to ignore that jab at me for all our benefit


What jab due? There was no jab. If I was to jab you then milliseconds later you would have received 2nd jab and then hook/cross/uppercut depending on where you would be open (Joking, but you get boxing reference).

In any way I do not want to aim any post at anybody - not even at Ardoki. So far only two people on NS pissed me enough that I actually did aimed something at them.

Does not matter that if I have a concern - I am going to voice it.
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:00 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:Flars right...

All this arguing is annoying and it just makes me sick. It's making me lose interest in the Rp and it hasn't even started.

And that's why I ask this (and in order to return to the main concern)...

Quirina wrote:So, should you continue the storyline of Sloane surrendering Thuasinisdun to UASR or what else can you think of?
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:02 pm

We should just go ahead and plan the insurgency.

Sloane is still power, though will not attack the islands. The insurgents will try and evict the SRA (Socialist Revolutionary Army).
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:19 pm

Ardoki wrote:We should just go ahead and plan the insurgency.

Sloane is still power, though will not attack the islands. The insurgents will try and evict the SRA (Socialist Revolutionary Army).

Is his rhetoric of "reuniting" with mainland still canon or what will be your next of that (aside from the insurgency)?
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:29 pm

Quirina wrote:
Ardoki wrote:We should just go ahead and plan the insurgency.

Sloane is still power, though will not attack the islands. The insurgents will try and evict the SRA (Socialist Revolutionary Army).

Is his rhetoric of "reuniting" with mainland still canon or what will be your next of that (aside from the insurgency)?

He will still want independence.

Though he will not want war.
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:07 pm

Ardoki wrote:He will still want independence.

Though he will not want war.

Wait, so he's not going to take back his word of having the islands under Ardoki, while still being anti-Ardoki and pro-independence?
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:13 pm

Quirina wrote:
Ardoki wrote:He will still want independence.

Though he will not want war.

Wait, so he's not going to take back his word of having the islands under Ardoki, while still being anti-Ardoki and pro-independence?

He never said that (if we ignore that part which some have suggested).
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Postby Quirina » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:21 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Quirina wrote:Wait, so he's not going to take back his word of having the islands under Ardoki, while still being anti-Ardoki and pro-independence?

He never said that (if we ignore that part which some have suggested).

By the looks of it, he abolished the Thuasinisdun's independence by one fell swoop and bowed down to Ardoki so fast and completely. And as it went on, war still is going to be waged, no matter if I retcon that propaganda or not.

The best suggestion could be Sloane being RPed by SACTO or IFC as it seems you are very much conflicted and confused how Sloane should be facing himself against Ardoki ICly. In this way, in my point of view, Sloane can have chance to take back those words ICly by another rhetoric of pro-Thuas again, but this will now confuse the populace under him. Take in mind that the people of Thuas are culturally rightwing, thanks RP's history, so expect protests and demonstrations pleading Sloane to take back his words, or if not, a nationwide protest calling to oust him and his party and be replace with a new one in favor of the people and their interest as culturally anti-Ardokian. In this way, you can continue being fully Ardoki without any bothering confusion as Sloane as well.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:27 pm

Quirina wrote:
Ardoki wrote:He never said that (if we ignore that part which some have suggested).

By the looks of it, he abolished the Thuasinisdun's independence by one fell swoop and bowed down to Ardoki so fast and completely. And as it went on, war still is going to be waged, no matter if I retcon that propaganda or not.

The best suggestion could be Sloane being RPed by SACTO or IFC as it seems you are very much conflicted and confused how Sloane should be facing himself against Ardoki ICly. In this way, in my point of view, Sloane can have chance to take back those words ICly by another rhetoric of pro-Thuas again, but this will now confuse the populace under him. Take in mind that the people of Thuas are culturally rightwing, thanks RP's history, so expect protests and demonstrations pleading Sloane to take back his words, or if not, a nationwide protest calling to oust him and his party and be replace with a new one in favor of the people and their interest as culturally anti-Ardokian. In this way, you can continue being fully Ardoki without any bothering confusion as Sloane as well.

I'd say we ignore that part (his bowing down to the UASR) - Just pretend it never happened.

I would have no problem with Sloane being RPed by the SACTO or the IFC. However as I don't have time for a war just yet, that won't be necessary. I would like to just focus on the proposed insurgency, where Sloane will not really be involved.
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Postby Torrumbarry » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:40 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Quirina wrote:By the looks of it, he abolished the Thuasinisdun's independence by one fell swoop and bowed down to Ardoki so fast and completely. And as it went on, war still is going to be waged, no matter if I retcon that propaganda or not.

The best suggestion could be Sloane being RPed by SACTO or IFC as it seems you are very much conflicted and confused how Sloane should be facing himself against Ardoki ICly. In this way, in my point of view, Sloane can have chance to take back those words ICly by another rhetoric of pro-Thuas again, but this will now confuse the populace under him. Take in mind that the people of Thuas are culturally rightwing, thanks RP's history, so expect protests and demonstrations pleading Sloane to take back his words, or if not, a nationwide protest calling to oust him and his party and be replace with a new one in favor of the people and their interest as culturally anti-Ardokian. In this way, you can continue being fully Ardoki without any bothering confusion as Sloane as well.

I'd say we ignore that part (his bowing down to the UASR) - Just pretend it never happened.

I would have no problem with Sloane being RPed by the SACTO or the IFC. However as I don't have time for a war just yet, that won't be necessary. I would like to just focus on the proposed insurgency, where Sloane will not really be involved.


How far back will be going? Departure of Riysa delegation of further?

Also, will you be putting a limit on the number of insurgents we have???
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:40 pm

Torrumbarry wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'd say we ignore that part (his bowing down to the UASR) - Just pretend it never happened.

I would have no problem with Sloane being RPed by the SACTO or the IFC. However as I don't have time for a war just yet, that won't be necessary. I would like to just focus on the proposed insurgency, where Sloane will not really be involved.


How far back will be going? Departure of Riysa delegation of further?

I don't know, yet.
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