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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:42 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Organized States wrote:There are ways.

#SDI :p

But seriously, who would go nuclear over a few islands. It just doesn't make sense!

Ardoki would apparently..?


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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:43 pm

I won't start a nuclear war, I was giving reasons for why Sloane was willing to negotiate (he didn't want escalation).

But with manoeuvrable warheads, missile defence won't be effective. Plus defensive missiles are significantly more expensive than warheads anyway, so are very cost ineffective.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:44 pm

Riysa wrote:
Ardoki wrote:If there is a nuclear war, you wouldn't be able to save your country (of course I wouldn't be able to save mine either).


You sure about that?

I'm not talking about SDI, either. We can definitely defend ourselves from nukes. Hell, I believe Inyur escalated to nuclear warfare before, but the OP retconned the whole situation later on.

The OP started it by launching "conventional" ICBM's at us...


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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:45 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Riysa wrote:
You sure about that?

I'm not talking about SDI, either. We can definitely defend ourselves from nukes. Hell, I believe Inyur escalated to nuclear warfare before, but the OP retconned the whole situation later on.

The OP started it by launching "conventional" ICBM's at us...

We wouldn't use them in this situation. However Sloane is not willing to risk it.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:46 pm

Ardoki wrote:But with manoeuvrable warheads, missile defence won't be effective. Plus defensive missiles are significantly more expensive than warheads anyway, so are very cost ineffective.

But it's a lot more likely our missile defense could shoot down a fraction of your missiles while your missile defense wouldn't stand a chance against our combined arsenal...

So again, why would you kick off a nuke fest over a few islands?


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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:47 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Ardoki wrote:But with manoeuvrable warheads, missile defence won't be effective. Plus defensive missiles are significantly more expensive than warheads anyway, so are very cost ineffective.

But it's a lot more likely our missile defense could shoot down a fraction of your missiles while your missile defense wouldn't stand a chance against our combined arsenal...

So again, why would you kick off a nuke fest over a few islands?

I already said I wouldn't, a few times.

You probably could shoot down a fraction of them (it would have to be before re-entry though), however that wouldn't matter as you would be overwhelmed.
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:47 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Riysa wrote:
You sure about that?

I'm not talking about SDI, either. We can definitely defend ourselves from nukes. Hell, I believe Inyur escalated to nuclear warfare before, but the OP retconned the whole situation later on.

The OP started it by launching "conventional" ICBM's at us...

Huh

I have conventional 3,500 kg warhead intermediate range ballistic missiles. They're mainly used for the terror effect and wiping out entire industrial areas in one big explosion. :p
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:48 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:The OP started it by launching "conventional" ICBM's at us...

Huh

I have conventional 3,500 kg warhead intermediate range ballistic missiles. They're mainly used for the terror effect and wiping out entire industrial areas in one big explosion. :p

MIRV ICBMs are superior. :p
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:49 pm

Ardoki wrote:We wouldn't use them in this situation. However Sloane is not willing to risk it.


If you would not use nukes then why?

Besides, they are counters on everything Ardoki. I will not reveal them here, but I have my own way to respond to you ;).
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Huh

I have conventional 3,500 kg warhead intermediate range ballistic missiles. They're mainly used for the terror effect and wiping out entire industrial areas in one big explosion. :p

MIRV ICBMs are superior. :p

A conventional ICBM would be a massive waste on resources. IMO, a missile designed to be used in-theatre have superior capabilities.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:51 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Ardoki wrote:MIRV ICBMs are superior. :p

A conventional ICBM would be a massive waste on resources. IMO, a missile designed to be used in-theatre have superior capabilities.


Not to mention, how would other nations know that it is conventional?
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:52 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Ardoki wrote:MIRV ICBMs are superior. :p

A conventional ICBM would be a massive waste on resources. IMO, a missile designed to be used in-theatre have superior capabilities.

They don't have long enough range.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:56 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:A conventional ICBM would be a massive waste on resources. IMO, a missile designed to be used in-theatre have superior capabilities.

They don't have long enough range.


Enough range for what?

Though that is why there are things called "Jabiri" and "Wrath of God" (SACTO knows that those projects are, and I do not need to speak what SACTO R&D division with Riysa at it's head has been working on.... not yet).
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:58 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:A conventional ICBM would be a massive waste on resources. IMO, a missile designed to be used in-theatre have superior capabilities.

They don't have long enough range.

If they didn't have enough range and a special purpose, theatre-level ballistic missiles wouldn't be in existance. :p
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:00 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Ardoki wrote:They don't have long enough range.

If they didn't have enough range and a special purpose, theatre-level ballistic missiles wouldn't be in existance. :p

I personally believe ICBMs would be more effective in a nuclear war.

However if you prefer theatre ballistic missiles for such a war, that is your right.

But we are veering off-topic now.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:02 pm

One word.

Kawase Yamato.

Riysa knows what this weapon is ;).
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:06 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:If they didn't have enough range and a special purpose, theatre-level ballistic missiles wouldn't be in existance. :p

I personally believe ICBMs would be more effective in a nuclear war.

However if you prefer theatre ballistic missiles for such a war, that is your right.

But we are veering off-topic now.

Eh, maybe.

I'll just leave this here.

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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:27 pm

So Cuscy ...

If we are doing the insurgent thing ... Will it be across the entire archipelago?
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:35 pm

Wait, does that mean we can't invade now?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:37 pm

Ardoki wrote:So Cuscy ...

If we are doing the insurgent thing ... Will it be across the entire archipelago?


Make up your mind...
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:39 pm

New Carloso wrote:Wait, does that mean we can't invade now?

I was never going to let an invasion occur until I had finished my exams, I made that clear.
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:40 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Wait, does that mean we can't invade now?

I was never going to let an invasion occur until I had finished my exams, I made that clear.

I knew that.

But when are your exams finished exactly?
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:40 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:
Ardoki wrote:So Cuscy ...

If we are doing the insurgent thing ... Will it be across the entire archipelago?


Make up your mind...

okay, no insurgency then.

However since an invasion cannot occur until I've finished my exams, there isn't anything to do in the RP for a while (I was going to have the insurgency going on, but never mind).
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:40 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I was never going to let an invasion occur until I had finished my exams, I made that clear.

I knew that.

But when are your exams finished exactly?

December.
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Postby New Carloso » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:42 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Carloso wrote:I knew that.

But when are your exams finished exactly?

December.

Fuk.
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