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by Flardania » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:49 pm
by New Aeyariss » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:55 pm
by New Roma Republic » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:58 pm
New Aeyariss wrote:Flardania wrote:There is a lot of things that I wish had a like button
Well... There are strange rumours about SACTO, which I would like to confirm.
So far, titles awarded:
Dr. Arnim Zola - to Riysa, following his bizzare tales of science. I do not remember by whom.
Emperor Palpatine of SACTO - to Quirina by Korateiro, for his organisational talent.
General Grievous of SACTO - awarded to me for certain, let's say "genius evil OPLAN". Do not remember by whom too.
In short - SACTO: Every pop Culture villain gone to NS.
by New Aeyariss » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:58 pm
.by New Roma Republic » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:59 pm
New Aeyariss wrote:Anyway, end this, since this is starting to look like threadjack
by Quirina » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:10 pm
by Ardoki » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:20 pm
by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:41 am
by Torrumbarry » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:44 am
Ardoki wrote:I'm not really understanding how many of you can't differentiate between things the two different characters state?
And to Quirinia, since you did not make me aware of your guards in your initial post - You are clearly just adding things in to make your position untouchable - I'm just going to have all your unhelpful RPing retconned.
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by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:45 am
Torrumbarry wrote:Ardoki wrote:I'm not really understanding how many of you can't differentiate between things the two different characters state?
And to Quirinia, since you did not make me aware of your guards in your initial post - You are clearly just adding things in to make your position untouchable - I'm just going to have all your unhelpful RPing retconned.
What do you mean, can't differentiate?
by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:55 am
by Quirina » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:22 am
Ardoki wrote:Actually, I will not retcon Quirinia's actions.
President Sloane is the personification of anti-UASR sentiment in Thuasinisdún. His laissez-faire economic policies have created mass economic inequality and economic ruin - Along with his very unpopular social conservatism and increasing autocratic and authoritarian tendencies - He is very unpopular (less than a 25% approval rating).
He has remained in power this long due to his manipulation of anti-UASR sentiment. However due to the economic ruin and inequality along with his social conservatism and authoritarianism/autocracy - This should push the population away from the viewpoints associated with him, and into the UASR's arms.
The foreign threats against Thuasinisdún will naturally lead to the people of the islands wishing for protection among their fellow Ardokians. Plus our people aren't stupid, they will easily see through the fabricated statistics and lies spread by the Quirinese - This will make them hostile toward the IFC and the SACTO (whom they will now see as aggressive states bent on imperialism and the colonisation of them) and they will start looking positively towards their fellow Ardokians in the UASR and will seek to unite with them.
Thanks Quirinia - You've basically guaranteed the UASR a legitimate victory in the referendum.
by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:42 am
Quirina wrote:Ardoki wrote:Actually, I will not retcon Quirinia's actions.
President Sloane is the personification of anti-UASR sentiment in Thuasinisdún. His laissez-faire economic policies have created mass economic inequality and economic ruin - Along with his very unpopular social conservatism and increasing autocratic and authoritarian tendencies - He is very unpopular (less than a 25% approval rating).
He has remained in power this long due to his manipulation of anti-UASR sentiment. However due to the economic ruin and inequality along with his social conservatism and authoritarianism/autocracy - This should push the population away from the viewpoints associated with him, and into the UASR's arms.
The foreign threats against Thuasinisdún will naturally lead to the people of the islands wishing for protection among their fellow Ardokians. Plus our people aren't stupid, they will easily see through the fabricated statistics and lies spread by the Quirinese - This will make them hostile toward the IFC and the SACTO (whom they will now see as aggressive states bent on imperialism and the colonisation of them) and they will start looking positively towards their fellow Ardokians in the UASR and will seek to unite with them.
Thanks Quirinia - You've basically guaranteed the UASR a legitimate victory in the referendum.
Eh. Is this how you deal with people (ICly) who have different thoughts about your leader? He's a foreigner (San Sebastian), and his opinion and words are just mere personal views. Dealing with his views and injecting them your authority means otherwise to San Sebastian. You just proved to him the bluff he's projecting. Aside from his report, his personal views are much anti-Ardokian, and sees any element near Ardoki mainland as Ardokian as well.
I cannot retcon that for one reason: Sloane stripping away a diplomatic immunity on spot and touching a foreign official which by right you have none and based on the existing international laws, is a very grave act of misconduct as Sloane being head of state. Have you expected the other nations to just bow down to a small island when in fact Thuasinisdun is a door away with Ardoki ICly? You cannot call "Sloane Report" a misconduct as it is a report and a research within your borders, which you can prove true or false with another argument, and knowing the intel web networks, you can point fingers within your circle (Sloan's cabinet or maybe agencies responsible for this "lies") and make them accountable. Incarcerating San Sebastian clearly shows how true the report is and how guilty Sloane was, to the point of breaching international standards to shut someone up, even a foreigner inside an international conference.
If Sloane sees it as a lie, San Sebastian sees it as truth based on Sloane's reactions, not on the report. Now that San Sebastian is out of the country (and no, you cannot retcon my action because I did it), it's up to you how you will maintain your image as an anti-communist now given doubt by an anti-communist nation as Quirina. Sloane's new goal, I suggest, is to level up his image based against the lie fronted against him, and not purging the liar who tells lies. You can claim that San Sebastian have no idea what he's talking about and deny his report ICly, and counter it, but you chose to prove the report true with your level of guilt, even to the extent of San Sebastian wanting to be detained.
And why say that the UASR will win the referendum? Are you adding up the credibility that Sloane is really a UASR puppet by telling that?
by Novo Wagondia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:45 am
Ardoki wrote:Quirina wrote:
Eh. Is this how you deal with people (ICly) who have different thoughts about your leader? He's a foreigner (San Sebastian), and his opinion and words are just mere personal views. Dealing with his views and injecting them your authority means otherwise to San Sebastian. You just proved to him the bluff he's projecting. Aside from his report, his personal views are much anti-Ardokian, and sees any element near Ardoki mainland as Ardokian as well.
I cannot retcon that for one reason: Sloane stripping away a diplomatic immunity on spot and touching a foreign official which by right you have none and based on the existing international laws, is a very grave act of misconduct as Sloane being head of state. Have you expected the other nations to just bow down to a small island when in fact Thuasinisdun is a door away with Ardoki ICly? You cannot call "Sloane Report" a misconduct as it is a report and a research within your borders, which you can prove true or false with another argument, and knowing the intel web networks, you can point fingers within your circle (Sloan's cabinet or maybe agencies responsible for this "lies") and make them accountable. Incarcerating San Sebastian clearly shows how true the report is and how guilty Sloane was, to the point of breaching international standards to shut someone up, even a foreigner inside an international conference.
If Sloane sees it as a lie, San Sebastian sees it as truth based on Sloane's reactions, not on the report. Now that San Sebastian is out of the country (and no, you cannot retcon my action because I did it), it's up to you how you will maintain your image as an anti-communist now given doubt by an anti-communist nation as Quirina. Sloane's new goal, I suggest, is to level up his image based against the lie fronted against him, and not purging the liar who tells lies. You can claim that San Sebastian have no idea what he's talking about and deny his report ICly, and counter it, but you chose to prove the report true with your level of guilt, even to the extent of San Sebastian wanting to be detained.
And why say that the UASR will win the referendum? Are you adding up the credibility that Sloane is really a UASR puppet by telling that?
You did not allow me to react to your sudden appearance of guards (which is godmoding and metagaming since you didn't announce their presence initially - you only mentioned them when you suddenly needed them), which is perfect grounds for me to ignore your posts.
However I'll use your little report and threats of attack to my own advantage. Attacking President Sloane and threatening violence against his country is going to spectacularly backfire in all your faces.
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by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:47 am
Novo Wagondia wrote:Ardoki wrote:You did not allow me to react to your sudden appearance of guards (which is godmoding and metagaming since you didn't announce their presence initially - you only mentioned them when you suddenly needed them), which is perfect grounds for me to ignore your posts.
However I'll use your little report and threats of attack to my own advantage. Attacking President Sloane and threatening violence against his country is going to spectacularly backfire in all your faces.
As far as I can see this is just one delegation's brashness; why should we all have to suffer the consequences? We're not all going after Sloane
by Quirina » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:52 am
Ardoki wrote:You did not allow me to react to your sudden appearance of guards (which is godmoding and metagaming since you didn't announce their presence initially - you only mentioned them when you suddenly needed them), which is perfect grounds for me to ignore your posts.
However I'll use your little report and threats of attack to my own advantage. Attacking President Sloane and threatening violence against his country is going to spectacularly backfire in all your faces.
You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:55 am
Quirina wrote:Ardoki wrote:You did not allow me to react to your sudden appearance of guards (which is godmoding and metagaming since you didn't announce their presence initially - you only mentioned them when you suddenly needed them), which is perfect grounds for me to ignore your posts.
However I'll use your little report and threats of attack to my own advantage. Attacking President Sloane and threatening violence against his country is going to spectacularly backfire in all your faces.
You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
But you said earlier you will not retcon my post, so there you have it. By default, all delegations have guards, armed or unarmed. All delegations, NS or RL have guards, personal most of the time, and you can't deny that. If you have guards for Sloane, I have also guards for San Sebastian, knowing he is in foreign place and need protection.
And thanks for using the report. It clearly shows ICly how aggressive Ardoki is on and beneath the surface. Never changed the personal view of San Sebastian, and yes, you made a big deal of him by attempting to arrest him inside an international event. Take note that San Sebastian presented an already made report that was either true or false, but basing on Sloane's reactions, you proved it true for Sloane.
And Wagondia is right, why too so general in making this a big deal for a guy you claim to tell lies about Sloane? A sensible person will just shrug off a lie and move one, but you bit the dust and did otherwise, even more than that.
by Novo Wagondia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:56 am
Ardoki wrote:Novo Wagondia wrote:
As far as I can see this is just one delegation's brashness; why should we all have to suffer the consequences? We're not all going after Sloane
You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
The SACTO's and a few IFC member's aggressive and war-warmongering attitude in the negotiations has not helped things, the President and his nation now feel as though the IFC and SACTO are goading them into a war which will destroy them, in their anti-Ardokian crusade and their neo-colonialist and neo-imperialist ambitions.
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by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:58 am
Novo Wagondia wrote:Ardoki wrote:You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
The SACTO's and a few IFC member's aggressive and war-warmongering attitude in the negotiations has not helped things, the President and his nation now feel as though the IFC and SACTO are goading them into a war which will destroy them, in their anti-Ardokian crusade and their neo-colonialist and neo-imperialist ambitions.
If there has been a breach of diplomatic 'manners', so to speak, by the fervently anti-communist SACTO delegations, then they just have to be excused as rude and obnoxious. The ideologies of entire countries don't change just because of a diplomatic faux pas, or some heated accusation. Have the Ardokian delegation just laugh at them for seeing the situation as two shades of red, rather than have the supposedly anti-Ardoki delegate get all puffy and violate international law himself. I smell the beginnings of a contest to see who can be more stubborn, so be the better man and don't treat the Quirinian delegation to a response. I personally propose the parts about rage quitting the conference and attempting to imprison a foreign diplomat both be quietly retconned.
by Quirina » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:02 am
Ardoki wrote:Well I specifically stated in the OP that everyone was unarmed (they were checked beforehand). So no, everyone is not armed by default.
You did not specify that you had guards. So I assumed you didn't have guards.
That is your fault not mine.
by Ardoki » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:04 am
Quirina wrote:Ardoki wrote:Well I specifically stated in the OP that everyone was unarmed (they were checked beforehand). So no, everyone is not armed by default.
You did not specify that you had guards. So I assumed you didn't have guards.
That is your fault not mine.
Yeah, my fault for not telling it beforehand, but again, it is practical that guards are there to avoid confrontation physically by the delegates who are important and high-profile, and San Sebastian, as Sloane is, are both high-profile personalities, but differ in opinion, action and thoughts.
It's practicality over technicality in this case then. I'm willing to edit my first post to suit that condition then.
by Quirina » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:38 am
Ardoki wrote:There is no point editing your first post as the more recent posts would have to be re-written or retconned.
I had the meeting unarmed so as to make guards unnecessary in the conference room. Guards present could intimidate other delegates and they would not be approved to hear the top secret negotiations.
If you brought guards they would have to wait outside and would not be allowed in.
by Inyourfaceistan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:49 am
Ardoki wrote:You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
by Riysa » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:58 am
Ardoki wrote:However I'll use your little report and threats of attack to my own advantage. Attacking President Sloane and threatening violence against his country is going to spectacularly backfire in all your faces.
You have just isolated and cornered President Sloane. He and his entire nation now think that the foreign powers (the IFC and the SACTO) are against them, and will now verge to the UASR (their fellow Ardokians) for support and protection.
by United States of Conner » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:35 am
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