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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:54 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Krjder wrote:And you will be thus crushed. Swiftly, brutally and effectively.

That is not how war works anymore. Long drawn out guerrilla wars turn your populatin against you, and soon you loose. Just look at iraq war.


Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...
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Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rt. Hon. Abigail Thorpe
Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
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Toolsbergia
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Postby Toolsbergia » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:57 am

Torrumbarry wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:That is not how war works anymore. Long drawn out guerrilla wars turn your populatin against you, and soon you loose. Just look at iraq war.


Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.

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Flardania
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Founded: Nov 13, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Flardania » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:58 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Torrumbarry wrote:
Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.

Well I guess we are pulling out......not :eyebrow:
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Krjder
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Postby Krjder » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:58 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Krjder wrote:And you will be thus crushed. Swiftly, brutally and effectively.

That is not how war works anymore. Long drawn out guerrilla wars turn your populatin against you, and soon you loose. Just look at iraq war.


Er, Iraq is an unstable third world country. If you land troops in my nation, a first world empire with an intelligent population and an effective military, you will have no support from civilians and you will be outgunned and outsmarted since my troops know my nation better than you do.
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Nation Type: Direct Democratic Federal Monarchy
Capital: Aastejk
Population: 480,670,500
Current Leadership:
-Emperor Anton IV
-Realm Chancellor Atsūjiri Gyēzashiri
Military:
-1,560,000 Active
-4,750,000 Reserves
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Torrumbarry
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Founded: Sep 08, 2012
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:58 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Torrumbarry wrote:
Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


I'm sure Ardoki will be grateful, but an Iraq War debate doesn't belong here.
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President: Rt. Hon. Lance Hemingway
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rt. Hon. Abigail Thorpe
Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
Population: RENOVATING-HARD HAT ZONE

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Krjder
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Postby Krjder » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:59 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Torrumbarry wrote:
Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


Ooh, I just crapped my pants. So? Just more grunts to paste.
Be polite, write diplomatically; even in a declaration of war one observes the rules of politeness.
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Nation Type: Direct Democratic Federal Monarchy
Capital: Aastejk
Population: 480,670,500
Current Leadership:
-Emperor Anton IV
-Realm Chancellor Atsūjiri Gyēzashiri
Military:
-1,560,000 Active
-4,750,000 Reserves
Dutch teen, Roman Catholic, socially conservative, economically libertarian. Enjoys; hunting, classical & march music, history and debating.

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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:00 am

Krjder wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:That is not how war works anymore. Long drawn out guerrilla wars turn your populatin against you, and soon you loose. Just look at iraq war.


Er, Iraq is an unstable third world country. If you land troops in my nation, a first world empire with an intelligent population and an effective military, you will have no support from civilians and you will be outgunned and outsmarted since my troops know my nation better than you do.


Think he might have missed the fact that he's going to fight a guerrilla war on foreign, not his own, soil...

Speaking of soil...
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Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
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Common Territories
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Founded: Nov 08, 2011
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Common Territories » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:02 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Torrumbarry wrote:
Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


Tbh. It's pretty clear to most here that you are just a puppet. Or at the very least a smarty pants (though people have been telling me you're just Ardoki). Your "This is 4GW warfare so I will win automatically." remark was quite clear who you're parodying; the fact is I highly doubt you know how warfare is waged, one way or another. So stop dancing around and wasting everyone's time.

I would say we didn't lose the Iraq wars, cause we didn't, but that's not the issue here. Drop it and lets return to the actual thread's topic.

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New Aeyariss
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:05 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Torrumbarry wrote:
Ok, this is not a debate for this thread.

Go to the IFC page. That seems to be the swinging debate hotspot...

Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence, then after your single commando with two guns (forgotten what kind) wanted to hold back entire group of paramilitary police?

After what I have seen in your RPs with me, I say open and frank NO.
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Toolsbergia
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Postby Toolsbergia » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:10 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.

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New Aeyariss
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:14 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.


Neither you have "tech" like that since it does not exist IRL.

And with no offence, I suspect that you are trolling me.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
Psalms 144:1 wrote:Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Also known as El Cuscatlan, Jesus will offer you eternal life if you believe in him!


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Riysa
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Postby Riysa » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:14 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:Dosnt matter. When you mess with Ardoki you mess with me.


After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence, then after your single commando with two guns (forgotten what kind) wanted to hold back entire group of paramilitary police?

After what I have seen in your RPs with me, I say open and frank NO.


Semi-automatic machine pistols (lol).

Toolsbergia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.


Lol, buddy, you think its about tech? That's cute. Here, look, I've got a spaceship that can travel at half the speed of light on sublight engines, carries 72 nuclear missiles that travel at 17% the speed of light, and 32 railgun batteries. I think you're just jealous of the tech we have.

Get my point?

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United States of Conner
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Postby United States of Conner » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:17 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.

*reads*
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Common Territories
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Common Territories » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:18 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.


Im trying so hard not to laugh since you're saying that to two people who actually made custom tech for their nations. I don't know if you have, but at the very least Cusc and Riysa have done research and made their own stuff. Im not sure what in all honesty what you have that would make them jealous at all.

Edit: "What do you mean by "given permission"?" Sorry. Didn't see that question. Anyways. Countries have their own sovereignty, meaning they hold territory. If say a military vessel, like a military hospital ship, crosses into their waters, that is invading their sovereignty. If you roll in without getting this said nation's permission, you are essentially invading that territory, which gives them the right to defend their territory by any means. They don't know if you're there for peaceful purposes - you could be military transport dock trying to dock and unload troops for all they know. That's why if you don't want your ship shot, sank, or boarded, it's best to receive permission to enter their waters if you're a military vessel.

If I were on the shoe of this, I'd probably board or sink the ship because I have no idea what it's purpose would be nor know why it'd be trying to enter.
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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:19 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence

I think you are jealous you do not have tech that is good like that. But it is for Ardoki to decide if i stay or go, so i will let him speak.


:eyebrow:

Please, for your own sake, stop posting. Forever.
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President: Rt. Hon. Lance Hemingway
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rt. Hon. Abigail Thorpe
Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
Population: RENOVATING-HARD HAT ZONE

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Krjder
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Postby Krjder » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:22 am

What is that rag where your flag should be? :eyebrow:
Be polite, write diplomatically; even in a declaration of war one observes the rules of politeness.
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Nation Type: Direct Democratic Federal Monarchy
Capital: Aastejk
Population: 480,670,500
Current Leadership:
-Emperor Anton IV
-Realm Chancellor Atsūjiri Gyēzashiri
Military:
-1,560,000 Active
-4,750,000 Reserves
Dutch teen, Roman Catholic, socially conservative, economically libertarian. Enjoys; hunting, classical & march music, history and debating.

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Toolsbergia
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Founded: May 26, 2015
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Postby Toolsbergia » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:22 am

Riysa wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
After your "tilt - rudder" VTOL somehow passed through entire nation's air defence, then after your single commando with two guns (forgotten what kind) wanted to hold back entire group of paramilitary police?

After what I have seen in your RPs with me, I say open and frank NO.


Semi-automatic machine pistols (lol).

They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too

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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:24 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Riysa wrote:
Semi-automatic machine pistols (lol).

They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too


This new flag has just proved everything the Common Territories said to be true.
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President: Rt. Hon. Lance Hemingway
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rt. Hon. Abigail Thorpe
Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
Population: RENOVATING-HARD HAT ZONE

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Riysa
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Postby Riysa » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:24 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Riysa wrote:
Semi-automatic machine pistols (lol).

They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too


>Pistols are too dangerous for combat
>Pistols

Image

GG troll, gg.

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Krjder
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Postby Krjder » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:24 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Riysa wrote:
Semi-automatic machine pistols (lol).

They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too



Right... You think you can take on some of mt ns's best militaries?
Be polite, write diplomatically; even in a declaration of war one observes the rules of politeness.
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Nation Type: Direct Democratic Federal Monarchy
Capital: Aastejk
Population: 480,670,500
Current Leadership:
-Emperor Anton IV
-Realm Chancellor Atsūjiri Gyēzashiri
Military:
-1,560,000 Active
-4,750,000 Reserves
Dutch teen, Roman Catholic, socially conservative, economically libertarian. Enjoys; hunting, classical & march music, history and debating.

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Toolsbergia
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Postby Toolsbergia » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:27 am

Krjder wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too



Right... You think you can take on some of mt ns's best militaries?

I can support someone who is a cool person and is nice to me! who says you military is the best, what if we have the best militaries?

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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:29 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Krjder wrote:

Right... You think you can take on some of mt ns's best militaries?

I can support someone who is a cool person and is nice to me! who says you military is the best, what if we have the best militaries?


You don't have the best MT military because you have most aptly displayed that you know bugger all about guerilla warfare. And because no.
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Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rt. Hon. Abigail Thorpe
Constitutional King: His Eminence Edmund VII of House Adelaide
Population: RENOVATING-HARD HAT ZONE

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Krjder
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Postby Krjder » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:35 am

Toolsbergia wrote:
Krjder wrote:

Right... You think you can take on some of mt ns's best militaries?

I can support someone who is a cool person and is nice to me! who says you military is the best, what if we have the best militaries?


Daww! That's cute. I said some of the best. Like Inyusta, Riysa, Cuscy and so on.
Be polite, write diplomatically; even in a declaration of war one observes the rules of politeness.
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Nation Type: Direct Democratic Federal Monarchy
Capital: Aastejk
Population: 480,670,500
Current Leadership:
-Emperor Anton IV
-Realm Chancellor Atsūjiri Gyēzashiri
Military:
-1,560,000 Active
-4,750,000 Reserves
Dutch teen, Roman Catholic, socially conservative, economically libertarian. Enjoys; hunting, classical & march music, history and debating.

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Inyourfaceistan
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Founded: Aug 20, 2012
Anarchy

Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:00 am

So do we have a verdict about the distance or not?


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
"Inyourfaceistan" refers to my player/user name, "Inyursta" is my IC name. NOT INYURSTAN. IF YOU CALL INYURSTA "INYURSTAN" THEN IT SHOWS THAT YOU CANT READ. Just refer to me as IYF or Stan.

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United States of Conner
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Founded: Jun 10, 2014
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Postby United States of Conner » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:04 am

Krjder wrote:
Toolsbergia wrote:They are a dangerus weapon used in many massacres in the USA, and they should be banned for civilian use.

And stop trying to make it so I wont help Ardoki because unless he say so i am here to stay. He has a right to allys too



Right... You think you can take on some of mt ns's best militaries?

And me!
Guns are tools, not toys.

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