Ardokian RP Planning Tread [OOC | Semi-Open | PT/MT/PMT?]

[Ardoki]

RolePlay Planning Thread - Discussions Needed for Decisions on the RP

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So - This thread will be for discussion about a possible RP involving Ardoki and some nations from the IFC and SACTO (perhaps others may get involved) - Not Much More to Be Said ...

Insert Beautiful Picture to Brighten up Sparse OP.

Okay...

- We'll do a diplomatic conference/meeting first - Before we plan/decide on any military conflicts. I'm not sure how this is going to develop yet exactly - We'll let the negotiations decide that. Here is the IC thread for it: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=351006#p25669901

- All IFC/SACTO nations who wish to participate in the diplomatic conference, just start by engaging in the negotiation (I started it off with all the delegates already in the meeting) - No weapons or other prohibited items would have been allowed in the conference room - Don't worry, the conference is not in Ardoki (it's in the capitol of the archipelago).

- War will come later - Perhaps after a time lapse.

- Map: http://s28.postimg.org/qcgdat0bx/Thuasi ... pelago.jpg (Thanks to Inyursta and Novo Wagondia)

[United States of Devonta]

First post

I say we keep it current Modern tech, so 2015.

[Novo Wagondia]

First post

I say we keep it current Modern tech, so 2015.

I agree; as close to MT as possible

Also, would it be possible to add some towns and geographical features to the map? As well as an indication of where Ardoki is, and in which direction (aka what important bodies of water/lands border Aanglandia). I can add them for you, if you give me a general direction as to what kind of names you want and what the natural features/climate should look like

[Ardoki]

First post

I say we keep it current Modern tech, so 2015.

Ardoki somewhat straddles the borders of tech and time.

We have a very Art Deco aesthetic - The style never went out of fashion in Ardoki and has remained dominant since the 1920s.
However we are somewhat borderline PMT - We have things such as railguns, vacum tube maglev trains, among other minor little things (they are kind of both MT and PMT - On the border).

First post

I say we keep it current Modern tech, so 2015.

I agree; as close to MT as possible

Also, would it be possible to add some towns and geographical features to the map? As well as an indication of where Ardoki is, and in which direction (aka what important bodies of water/lands border Aanglandia). I can add them for you, if you give me a general direction as to what kind of names you want and what the natural features/climate should look like

http://i.imgur.com/yKMSyan.png

I haven't done the towns, but feel free to improve it in anyway if you like. I'm just a bit busy with works at the moment, so I can't focus on it too much.

[Torrumbarry]

I thought we were doing it PT, not MT...

[Ardoki]

I thought we were doing it PT, not MT...

I detailed some options in the OP, others may give their own ideas about the time/tech frame.

I would rather not act like a tyrant and force my preferences on everyone. I will still exercise judgement, but I want the people's input as well on what they would prefer.

[Thollenrij]

Can I join this RP?

[Krjder]

Since the late 1800s are really my era in terms of technical knower edge and the fact I was a lot more powerful then, I am really vouching for that era. But I was still a decent contender in the 1920s due to our bloodlust following our tactical withdrawal from WWI. Count me out from anything post 1940, WWII wrecked us, we lost almost 7% of our male population and we lost 3 provinces.

[Ardoki]

Since the late 1800s are really my era in terms of technical knower edge and the fact I was a lot more powerful then, I am really vouching for that era. But I was still a decent contender in the 1920s due to our bloodlust following our tactical withdrawal from WWI. Count me out from anything post 1940, WWII wrecked us, we lost almost 7% of our male population and we lost 3 provinces.

I'm leaning towards the 1930s option. It would give us a chance to recover from the revolution and the economic crisis and subsequent recovery.

[Krjder]

Since the late 1800s are really my era in terms of technical knower edge and the fact I was a lot more powerful then, I am really vouching for that era. But I was still a decent contender in the 1920s due to our bloodlust following our tactical withdrawal from WWI. Count me out from anything post 1940, WWII wrecked us, we lost almost 7% of our male population and we lost 3 provinces.

I'm leaning towards the 1930s option. It would give us a chance to recover from the revolution and the economic crisis and subsequent recovery.

I sought armed neutrality from 1926-1941..

[Ardoki]

I'm leaning towards the 1930s option. It would give us a chance to recover from the revolution and the economic crisis and subsequent recovery.

I sought armed neutrality from 1926-1941..

1942 and higher?

[Krjder]

I sought armed neutrality from 1926-1941..

1942 and higher?

In the midst of a 4-6 front war both on our mainland and overseas territories.

[Organized States]

Tiggity.

Hmm, regards to the time, perhaps the 1950s or 1960s?

Still enough time to recover.

[Ardoki]

1942 and higher?

In the midst of a 4-6 front war both on our mainland and overseas territories.

While by the beginning of the 1920s, the UASR had a very strong economy and level of scientific/technological advancement. We only "liberated" Aanglandia in 1922, and consolidated our control by 1926 - However it wasn't until the 1930s when Aanglandia was fully pacified.

[Krjder]

Tiggity.

Hmm, regards to the time, perhaps the 1950s or 1960s?

Still enough time to recover.

I was wrecked from WWII then, cutting huge amounts of spending just to keep up with the arms bad space race. Not to mention being extremely jittery about a communist invasion. We executed well over 250 spies from all spies....

[Krjder]

In the midst of a 4-6 front war both on our mainland and overseas territories.

While by the beginning of the 1920s, the UASR had a very strong economy and level of scientific/technological advancement. We only "liberated" Aanglandia in 1922, and consolidated our control by 1926 - However it wasn't until the 1930s when Aanglandia was fully pacified.

Hhmm, I just don't see any reason as to why I would intervene unless there were economical or strategic advantages for me...

[Ardoki]

While by the beginning of the 1920s, the UASR had a very strong economy and level of scientific/technological advancement. We only "liberated" Aanglandia in 1922, and consolidated our control by 1926 - However it wasn't until the 1930s when Aanglandia was fully pacified.

Hhmm, I just don't see any reason as to why I would intervene unless there were economical or strategic advantages for me...

What reason did you have to request a war with me in the first place?

[Krjder]

Hhmm, I just don't see any reason as to why I would intervene unless there were economical or strategic advantages for me...

What reason did you have to request a war with me in the first place?

Because I'm no longer neutral and I have an active duty to promote freedom.

[Organized States]

Tiggity.

Hmm, regards to the time, perhaps the 1950s or 1960s?

Still enough time to recover.

I was wrecked from WWII then, cutting huge amounts of spending just to keep up with the arms bad space race. Not to mention being extremely jittery about a communist invasion. We executed well over 250 spies from all spies....

In the Mid-60s?

Vietnam was a walkover in my canon, so I'm not too worried about it.

Hmm. Ardoki, any thoughts on the Mid-Cold War setting?

[Ardoki]

What reason did you have to request a war with me in the first place?

Because I'm no longer neutral and I have an active duty to promote freedom.

Okay.

I was wrecked from WWII then, cutting huge amounts of spending just to keep up with the arms bad space race. Not to mention being extremely jittery about a communist invasion. We executed well over 250 spies from all spies....

In the Mid-60s?

Vietnam was a walkover in my canon, so I'm not too worried about it.

Hmm. Ardoki, any thoughts on the Mid-Cold War setting?

This is the nuclear age, and we were even more nuclear trigger happy then (due to our fright over the weapon and its threats against us) than we are now. So that would not be good.

[Krjder]

I was wrecked from WWII then, cutting huge amounts of spending just to keep up with the arms bad space race. Not to mention being extremely jittery about a communist invasion. We executed well over 250 spies from all spies....

In the Mid-60s?

Vietnam was a walkover in my canon, so I'm not too worried about it.

Hmm. Ardoki, any thoughts on the Mid-Cold War setting?

Yup, it was till the eighties that we were back on track.

[Ardoki]

Historical Context

During the immediate aftermath of the Great Proletarian Revolution in 1886, all businesses and farming estates were collectivised and put under the ownership and management of the particular proletarians of said enterprise. However this policy was introduced too quickly and promptly led to economic and agricultural disaster, by 1888 the Supreme Presidium of the Supreme People's Congress enacted the Socialist Hybrid Program (SHP), which returned most enterprises back to their former capitalist owners in an attempt to improve the economic situation - However worker rights were greatly expanded (high minimum wage, sick leave, 6-hour work day, employment protections, improved safety and health standards, etcetera). Certain sectors of the economy such as natural resources, infrastructure and utilities were kept under state control though. By 1890 the economy had recovered to pre-revolution levels - By 1900 the GDP per capita (PPP) was almost 6000 International dollars 1990. We basically stuck with this economic model, as it seemed to work very well.

By the 1920s we were a very advanced and prosperous nation with a formidable military. In 1922 there were massive anti-government strikes in Aanglandia due to the economic depression going on there - The Socialist Revolutionary Army intervened and conquered Aanglandia. We were actually supported by the labour movement (workers and the unions) as well as big business - They believed we could end the economic troubles and political and social unrest. We were busy fighting nationalists and monarchists up until 1926, and established firm control over Aanglandia by the 1930s.

[Flardania]

essentially if it's 1889 I would be playing as France because Kirishima was only a colony. 1942 I would play as Japan because Kirishima was occupied then. Anything after 1952 is much better.
I would prefer MT and something involving Annglandia since it's much more lose able.

[United States of Conner]

Because I'm no longer neutral and I have an active duty to promote freedom.

Okay.

In the Mid-60s?

Vietnam was a walkover in my canon, so I'm not too worried about it.

Hmm. Ardoki, any thoughts on the Mid-Cold War setting?

This is the nuclear age, and we were even more nuclear trigger happy then (due to our fright over the weapon and its threats against us) than we are now. So that would not be good.

^Why I wanted PMT
It seems like as states possess nuclear weapons for longer periods of time, they become less likely to use them at every little skirmish. If we all have had our nukes for at least ... what, 20, 30 years, I feel it would be much less likely to end with all of our nations at the bottom of the ocean.

Besides, was Ardoki already known for the whole human experimentation/genocide/mass murder thing that was our casus belli back in 1889/1920s? If not, and we still want to do PT, we might need a new reason for war.

[Flardania]

Okay.


This is the nuclear age, and we were even more nuclear trigger happy then (due to our fright over the weapon and its threats against us) than we are now. So that would not be good.

^Why I wanted PMT
It seems like as states possess nuclear weapons for longer periods of time, they become less likely to use them at every little skirmish. If we all have had our nukes for at least ... what, 20, 30 years, I feel it would be much less likely to end with all of our nations at the bottom of the ocean.

Besides, was Ardoki already known for the whole human experimentation/genocide/mass murder thing that was our casus belli back in 1889/1920s? If not, and we still want to do PT, we might need a new reason for war.

I have no timeline yet ready for PMT, essentially tried PMT once didn't know good tech and such and it was a trainwreck