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by New Finnish Republic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:54 pm
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:58 pm
by Military Democracy of Birtonia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:10 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Yeah I'll be on your side Ranoria. Should I send a fleet to support yours or should I play it safe and send them by land?
by The United Remnants of America » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:17 pm
by The GAmeTopians » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:20 pm
Empire of Donner land wrote:EHEG don't stop for no one.
It's like your a prostitute and the RP is a truck. The truck don't stop.
by The GAmeTopians » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:35 pm
Empire of Donner land wrote:EHEG don't stop for no one.
It's like your a prostitute and the RP is a truck. The truck don't stop.
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:38 pm
by Military Democracy of Birtonia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:41 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Noob question:
What is Congrevopia's justification for war again, I need a reason please
by The GAmeTopians » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:42 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Noob question:
What is Congrevopia's justification for war again, I need a reason please
Empire of Donner land wrote:EHEG don't stop for no one.
It's like your a prostitute and the RP is a truck. The truck don't stop.
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:45 pm
by Military Democracy of Birtonia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:55 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Okay
another noob question:
Can I have my spec ops entering Qiraj followed by my military
by Ranoria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:00 pm
by The United Remnants of America » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:01 pm
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:04 pm
by Military Democracy of Birtonia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:12 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Sorry if it was vague, can they enter Qiraj in my first IC post.
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:17 pm
by Military Democracy of Birtonia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:19 pm
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:entire military or the forces entering the conflict initially?
by Mitheldalond » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:32 pm
Ranoria wrote:Mitheldalond wrote:Cruise Missile Carrier Aircraft:
Firing AGM-158 JASSM-ER missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Land based with aerial refueling if necessary.
It's up to you whether you want to send some forces to Ultsengel or keep them all at Qiraibashi. Well, you and STAVKA.
Interesting.
Stlll easiest thing on the market to shoot down though lol.
Gallia- wrote:A carrier group will only have one carrier, generally, and submarines are not typically organic as they have difficulty communicating with the carrier group for obvious reasons. Submarines tend to do their own thing, and organizationally they fall outside the control of surface warfare task forces/groups anyway.
Zumwalt is rather unfortunate, a coastal monitor is not particularly useful for fleet air defence. There is a reason that carrier battlegroups are protected by Ticonderogas, both Arleigh Burke and Zumwalt lack sufficient C3I to coordinate air defence tasks for a battlegroup. TBH, you should consider just straight ripping SC-21 if you're going to use Ford-class. This is NS etc. etc. In that case you'd have two CG(X) and a gaggle of DD-21/DD(X)/Zumwalts replacing the Burkes. Unfortunately, Zumwalt is a coastal monitor as mentioned, and you sort of want to use it like you would a Burke, as it lacks the C3I necessary to function as a AAW cruiser in USN doctrine. As it stands, you have rather lackluster AAW air defence, but it's easily fixed by using Ticonderoga or CGN-42.
The combination of Alvaro de Bazan and Arleigh Burke is unnecessary, as they are duplicative in role, the F100 is just inferior in performance. Both are multipurpose destroyers. If you want a frigate, it'll need to be cheap, like Perry. Type 23 is great in this role too, being a pure ASW platform and is probably significantly cheaper than the high capability F100.
Type 702 is irrelevant and redundant when you have T-AKE and T-AOE, however you may wish to look at [url=Cimarron-class fleet replenishment oiler]AO[/url] or its replacement T-AO to complement the T-AKE.
Rafale and F/A-18E/F is redundant duplication. You should pick one or the other tbh, neither offers too terribly significant performance benefits over each other to justify using both. Also, Rafale is a great-ish fighter, but if we're going to go full bore into the 21st century might as well use AF(X) which is just infinitely better. Ditto mixing AW101 and SH-60, the NFH is superior to the latter in most roles except it is slightly larger and you may wish to use AS565 for smaller hangars and plane guard.
If you're using Rafale, you should consider using the CTOL Queen Elizabeth and just cat even more Rafales off that guy. PA2 was a dude.
I'm not sure if COD is routinely stationed as part of an air wing. I believe it may be part of a logistics TF in the USN, and VRCs are stationed on land afaik. You don't need to carry it is the point anyway, it comes to you bringing mail or whatever.
Your SUBRON should control all submarines, naturally.
I can propose a slightly altered ORBAT that would be more authentic if you want.
The Selkie wrote:Short question for all those nice gents with the cruise missiles: Why does no one of you target other installations of military use? Power plants, transformer stations (you know which one I mean...), bridges, every stretch of highway, which goes on for two kilometres in a straight line, runways, command centres, kindergardens and so on, and so on, and so on?
The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Yeah I'll be on your side Ranoria. Should I send a fleet to support yours or should I play it safe and send them by land?
by Ranoria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:37 pm
Mitheldalond wrote:Ranoria wrote:Interesting.
Stlll easiest thing on the market to shoot down though lol.
O rly? Tell me more about these SAMs that can hit things 500 miles away.
Also, this is for you:Gallia- wrote:A carrier group will only have one carrier, generally, and submarines are not typically organic as they have difficulty communicating with the carrier group for obvious reasons. Submarines tend to do their own thing, and organizationally they fall outside the control of surface warfare task forces/groups anyway.
Zumwalt is rather unfortunate, a coastal monitor is not particularly useful for fleet air defence. There is a reason that carrier battlegroups are protected by Ticonderogas, both Arleigh Burke and Zumwalt lack sufficient C3I to coordinate air defence tasks for a battlegroup. TBH, you should consider just straight ripping SC-21 if you're going to use Ford-class. This is NS etc. etc. In that case you'd have two CG(X) and a gaggle of DD-21/DD(X)/Zumwalts replacing the Burkes. Unfortunately, Zumwalt is a coastal monitor as mentioned, and you sort of want to use it like you would a Burke, as it lacks the C3I necessary to function as a AAW cruiser in USN doctrine. As it stands, you have rather lackluster AAW air defence, but it's easily fixed by using Ticonderoga or CGN-42.
The combination of Alvaro de Bazan and Arleigh Burke is unnecessary, as they are duplicative in role, the F100 is just inferior in performance. Both are multipurpose destroyers. If you want a frigate, it'll need to be cheap, like Perry. Type 23 is great in this role too, being a pure ASW platform and is probably significantly cheaper than the high capability F100.
Type 702 is irrelevant and redundant when you have T-AKE and T-AOE, however you may wish to look at [url=Cimarron-class fleet replenishment oiler]AO[/url] or its replacement T-AO to complement the T-AKE.
Rafale and F/A-18E/F is redundant duplication. You should pick one or the other tbh, neither offers too terribly significant performance benefits over each other to justify using both. Also, Rafale is a great-ish fighter, but if we're going to go full bore into the 21st century might as well use AF(X) which is just infinitely better. Ditto mixing AW101 and SH-60, the NFH is superior to the latter in most roles except it is slightly larger and you may wish to use AS565 for smaller hangars and plane guard.
If you're using Rafale, you should consider using the CTOL Queen Elizabeth and just cat even more Rafales off that guy. PA2 was a dude.
I'm not sure if COD is routinely stationed as part of an air wing. I believe it may be part of a logistics TF in the USN, and VRCs are stationed on land afaik. You don't need to carry it is the point anyway, it comes to you bringing mail or whatever.
Your SUBRON should control all submarines, naturally.
I can propose a slightly altered ORBAT that would be more authentic if you want.The Selkie wrote:Short question for all those nice gents with the cruise missiles: Why does no one of you target other installations of military use? Power plants, transformer stations (you know which one I mean...), bridges, every stretch of highway, which goes on for two kilometres in a straight line, runways, command centres, kindergardens and so on, and so on, and so on?
Because we need bridges and highways to get around Qiraj. Power plants and such are targets of secondary importance; enemy SAMs, radar, and other costal defenses are the immediate threats that need to be dealt with first, though we should also add airfields to that list. Of course, taking out their air defense network will make it much easier to get cruise missiles and aircraft through to attack their airfields.
I think I'm going to bring 1 or 2 of my B-747s in to support Lalath's air wing, then have my EW aircraft fly some SEAD missions to find radar and SAM sites for the bombers to hit. This will probably be done as part of a penetration strike by the air wing against Qiraji air bases.
Basically, the EW aircraft will spearhead the raid, jamming radar and stuff as they go, and coordinating with the bombers to bit any air defenses they encounter along the way. My fighters will be right behind the EW planes with missiles to attack the air fields.Ranoria wrote:Actually, the land invasions are just about to start CONG! THIS GUY WANTS IN!
@Coalition-
xD is nobody even attacking Qiraibashi?
Everybody but me is attacking Qiraibashi.The Commonwealth of the South Pacific wrote:Yeah I'll be on your side Ranoria. Should I send a fleet to support yours or should I play it safe and send them by land?
Excellent! More sheep for the slaughter.Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:
Good luck, If I understand, the Coalition is currently in control of the seas.
And that's not going to change any time soon. I'm sending more ships, including one of my BBGNs.
by New Finnish Republic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:43 pm
by The Selkie » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:07 am
Mitheldalond wrote:[...]The Selkie wrote:Short question for all those nice gents with the cruise missiles: Why does no one of you target other installations of military use? Power plants, transformer stations (you know which one I mean...), bridges, every stretch of highway, which goes on for two kilometres in a straight line, runways, command centres, kindergardens and so on, and so on, and so on?
Because we need bridges and highways to get around Qiraj. Power plants and such are targets of secondary importance; enemy SAMs, radar, and other costal defenses are the immediate threats that need to be dealt with first, though we should also add airfields to that list. Of course, taking out their air defense network will make it much easier to get cruise missiles and aircraft through to attack their airfields.
I think I'm going to bring 1 or 2 of my B-747s in to support Lalath's air wing, then have my EW aircraft fly some SEAD missions to find radar and SAM sites for the bombers to hit. This will probably be done as part of a penetration strike by the air wing against Qiraji air bases.
Basically, the EW aircraft will spearhead the raid, jamming radar and stuff as they go, and coordinating with the bombers to bit any air defenses they encounter along the way. My fighters will be right behind the EW planes with missiles to attack the air fields.
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I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Ranoria » Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:30 pm
New Finnish Republic wrote:Brace yourself, the Finns are coming
by The Commonwealth of the South Pacific » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:25 pm
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