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What should be done in Senkaku's absence?

Congreveopia tries to find some other nation to control Qiraj that is currently not involved with this RP
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The Nation of Ceneria
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:01 pm

Hey, Ranoria...

Can I whack the Valasvow with a ALTASCM strike? (Air Launched Tactical Anti-Ship Cruise Missile strike)

Please???? :p

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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:15 pm

Sooooooooooo. If I launched the invasion...... who would come with?

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Postby New Finnish Republic » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:25 pm

Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:Sooooooooooo. If I launched the invasion...... who would come with?


Here's the thing

We need to conclude the Spec Op mission(s) and conclude with the cruise missile strikes of Qiraji radar installations. After that we need to control the skies, or at least be able to keep Qiraj and her allies from destroying the invasion force from above. After all that, then we can commence the invasion. Really it's up to Sen on how he wants that all to go down. I'm hoping he'll be willing to allow at least a successful invasion to allow for further RPing, but it's really his call.
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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:03 pm

Okay, I responded to GAmeTopia's TG. What else needs doing here? Lets see...

New Finnish Republic wrote:
Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:Sooooooooooo. If I launched the invasion...... who would come with?


Here's the thing

We need to conclude the Spec Op mission(s) and conclude with the cruise missile strikes of Qiraji radar installations. After that we need to control the skies, or at least be able to keep Qiraj and her allies from destroying the invasion force from above. After all that, then we can commence the invasion. Really it's up to Sen on how he wants that all to go down. I'm hoping he'll be willing to allow at least a successful invasion to allow for further RPing, but it's really his call.

If the invasion hits separate sites, at least some of it will (hopefully) be successful.




Senkaku, what do you want to do with my fleeing soldiers (the ones on the ground). They can start some incident that is RPed out in full, like encountering URA's soldiers or something. They could make a short but noble last stand, or they could successfully hide somewhere until the invasion begins at least.




Cruise missile strikes: we need to get these over with so we can invade. If you've already mentioned that you're going to be doing one, awesome, maybe mention it again so I notice it. If you're not doing one, mention that too, so we don't wait for you. I'm going to make a neatly formatted list so Senkaku can see what he's facing and decide on damage.

List of Cruise Missile Strikes by Nation:
  • Hale Isles: 0 missiles.
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The GAmeTopians
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:08 pm

I might make a long-range icbm strike with my still WIP fleet.
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Congreveopia
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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:23 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:I might make a long-range icbm strike with my still WIP fleet.

That's fine if there aren't WMDs on the ICBMs warheads. Be careful with the cost of the missile vs what you kill, though. Don't want to spend a seven million dollar missile to destroy a hundred thousand dollar radar.
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
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Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
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The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Postby The GAmeTopians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:31 pm

Congreveopia wrote:
The GAmeTopians wrote:I might make a long-range icbm strike with my still WIP fleet.

That's fine if there aren't WMDs on the ICBMs warheads. Be careful with the cost of the missile vs what you kill, though. Don't want to spend a seven million dollar missile to destroy a hundred thousand dollar radar.

Will do.
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Mizentia
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Postby Mizentia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:38 pm

I'm launching some, I've decided, pretty soon I'll post launching probably 5 or 6 tomahawks at any available SAM batteries or radar around Ultsengel

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New Finnish Republic
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Postby New Finnish Republic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:45 pm

I'm waiting for Sen's reaction to my troops. For simplicity's sake I'm hoping he just allows my other remaining men to escape to the boat.
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Ranoria
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Postby Ranoria » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:49 pm

Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:Ha.

Hahaha.

I'd win if I did that. ~30,000 soldiers around Qiraj's capital.

Don't pull a Ranoria.

:eyebrow: *stares*
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The Nation of Ceneria wrote:Hey, Ranoria...

Can I whack the Valasvow with a ALTASCM strike? (Air Launched Tactical Anti-Ship Cruise Missile strike)
Please???? :p

You can try, unless you're launching an absolutely ungodly amount of them it won't do squat tho.
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New Finnish Republic wrote:I'm waiting for Sen's reaction to my troops. For simplicity's sake I'm hoping he just allows my other remaining men to escape to the boat.

I think alot of us are waiting on Sen. I havent been able to log in, no time btw. Is anyone waiting on me?
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:54 pm

I'm going to put this out there - my fleet leader most likely would have been able to escape by small escape boat to the Mitheldalond fleet would he not?
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Postby Mitheldalond » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:57 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:I'm going to put this out there - my fleet leader most likely would have been able to escape by small escape boat to the Mitheldalond fleet would he not?

Well, I'd probably send some helicopters at least to pick up survivors from both fleets, so yeah.

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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:58 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:I'm going to put this out there - my fleet leader most likely would have been able to escape by small escape boat to the Mitheldalond fleet would he not?

I'd guess he'd try to stay aboard the flagship and in command until the room he's in physically sinks, if he's worth his paycheck. :p

Yeah, if you want him to have plot armor, people will certainly have survived from your fleet in RHIB, lifeboats, and PFDs. He can be among them.

Mizentia wrote:I'm launching some, I've decided, pretty soon I'll post launching probably 5 or 6 tomahawks at any available SAM batteries or radar around Ultsengel

List of Cruise Missile Strikes by Nation:
  • Hale Isles: 0 missiles. Target: Nothing.
  • Mizentia: 5 or 6 tomahawks. Target: SAMs and radars around Ultsengel.
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
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Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Postby The GAmeTopians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:01 pm

My subs (working on ORBAT!) will shoot off ten or so Tomahawks.
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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:07 pm

I still have a butt-ton of missiles in the arsenal ship. Once I get home I'll look at how many exactly are left after shooting at Ranoria

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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:10 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:My subs (working on ORBAT!) will shoot off ten or so Tomahawks.

Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:I still have a butt-ton of missiles in the arsenal ship. Once I get home I'll look at how many exactly are left after shooting at Ranoria

List of Cruise Missile Strikes by Nation:
  • Hale Isles: 0 missiles. Target: Nothing.
  • Mizentia: 5 or 6 tomahawks. Target: SAMs and radars around Ultsengel.
  • GAmeTopia: ~10 Tomahawks. Target: radars?
  • Birtonia: 1 metric butt-ton of missiles. Target: radars?
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
Links:
Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Ranoria
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Postby Ranoria » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:30 pm

But does anyone know what happened to Senkaku? Also when is the date gonna change? Alot has happened and my main forces don't arrive until the 11th.
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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:34 pm

Ranoria wrote:But does anyone know what happened to Senkaku? Also when is the date gonna change? Alot has happened and my main forces don't arrive until the 11th.

Eh, he's around. The date will advance when things move forward. Things will move forward when Senkaku posts some more. No pressure, though, Senkaku. :p
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
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Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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The Tekkit Guy
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Postby The Tekkit Guy » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:37 pm

Congreveopia wrote:
Ranoria wrote:But does anyone know what happened to Senkaku? Also when is the date gonna change? Alot has happened and my main forces don't arrive until the 11th.

Eh, he's around. The date will advance when things move forward. Things will move forward when Senkaku posts some more. No pressure, though, Senkaku. :p


Cong you forgot about my original cruise missile post in the IC.
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Postby Congreveopia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:41 pm

The Tekkit Guy wrote:
Congreveopia wrote:Eh, he's around. The date will advance when things move forward. Things will move forward when Senkaku posts some more. No pressure, though, Senkaku. :p


Cong you forgot about my original cruise missile post in the IC.

I was just updating as people mentioned them because I didn't want to read back through the entire IC and OOC. Anyways:

The Tekkit Guy wrote:CIC, TNS St. Thomas, April 8th, 2354 hours

Admiral Marshal looked at the situation as it was happening on the many big screens of the massive ship. The fleet was now within cruise missile range, but not anti-ship missile range. He knew the special forces were either already dead or doomed unless they intervened.

"Get me the frigate TNS Myran" He told the comms officer.

"Aye, sir, patching you through." He replied

"TNS Myran, be advised, you are to release your payload of missiles on the coordinates we are sending to you know." He gestured to the radar operator, who began typing. "You are hereby instructed to fire all of your cruise missiles, and evenly distribute them among the targets."

"TNS St. Thomas, orders acknowledged. Releasing payload." A voice crackled over the radio replied.

CIC, TNS Myran,

Four coordinates for the most central radar installations arrived on the computer console. The missile operators turned their keys at the same time, opening a plexiglass cover with a panel of switches. All 24 missiles launched from the ship, causing it to rattle and shake with the force of the launches. The missiles were all controlled by the same computer system on the ship, and programmed to climb and dive unpredictably to confuse anti-aircraft missiles. The cruise missiles were soon entering detection range of the Qiraji coastal defenses: bearing in on their targets at near-supersonic speeds.

List of Cruise Missile Strikes by Nation:
  • Hale Isles: 0 missiles. Target: Nothing.
  • Mizentia: 5 or 6 tomahawks. Target: SAMs and radars around Ultsengel.
  • GAmeTopia: ~10 Tomahawks. Target: radars?
  • Birtonia: 1 metric butt-ton of missiles. Target: radars?
  • Tekkit: 24 cruise missiles. Target: 4 central radar facilities.
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
Links:
Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Postby New Finnish Republic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:33 pm

I've got 6 Salama cruise missiles in my fleet. They're similar to the BrahMos cruise missiles, except fly slower at roughly 2,800 km/h. However, I'm launching 2 of them towards where my men are holding off the chasing Qiraji forces.
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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:46 pm

Alrighty, so the Anubis class arsenal ships have 900 VLS cells, I'd say maybe 200 are dedicated to anti-ship warfare. So 700 VLS cells filled with varying types of missiles are available to the coalition. I'd advise marking targets for the ship to bombard.

Also Cong did you approve my ORBAT for the secondary fleet? I removed the Longsword.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:00 pm

To be realistic the attack on Ardakan has little chance at succeding. My heavy armored force is based in the area, and those MBTs and heavy IFVs will chew up the lightly armed landing force. Ardakan is also.the most heavily fortified, and defended of the three sectors. In addition there are a quite a lot of aircraft in the area.

Qirabashi landing is more of a toss up. It does not possess heavy armor like Ardakan however the forces in Qiraibashi are reasonably fortified. The coalition seems to be focusing most of its efforts in the city as well. It will come down to tactics.

The Ultsengel landing will probably suceed unless something drastic happens. The city is poorly defended compared to the other two. The area will probably give way to the coalition.

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Postby Ranoria » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:08 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:To be realistic the attack on Ardakan has little chance at succeding. My heavy armored force is based in the area, and those MBTs and heavy IFVs will chew up the lightly armed landing force. Ardakan is also.the most heavily fortified, and defended of the three sectors. In addition there are a quite a lot of aircraft in the area.

Qirabashi landing is more of a toss up. It does not possess heavy armor like Ardakan however the forces in Qiraibashi are reasonably fortified. The coalition seems to be focusing most of its efforts in the city as well. It will come down to tactics.

The Ultsengel landing will probably suceed unless something drastic happens. The city is poorly defended compared to the other two. The area will probably give way to the coalition.

BUT Ultsengel is down a river. It would be harder to get a large force down there. (Not impossible, but it would take longer) Supplying the army wuld be difficult. I agree that attacking Ardaken is a suicide mission, but I've also got to agree with Kelvinsi that Qiraibashi is a toss up.
Within 50 kilos, I can fire off Thermobarics, within 45 Sen can utilize his own defenses. The beach itself will be hard to take, and there are defenses in place to intercept incoming missiles. They won't stop everything, just alot of it. If you land without bombarding the beachhead for at least a few hours, your men will likely have to fight through MGs, assault rifles, and with mortars. If you continue, you will face a small but heavily trained group of Ranorian soldiers who will be forced to retreat unless a massive portion of your force is taken down on the beachhead.
On the other hand, if I can stall you for 2 days, over a hundred thousand men, a massive armored division, more defenses, and aerial combat vehicles will arrive. At that point we will begin setting up bunkers and pillboxes along the beachhead, and it will become increasingly difficult to bombard. Then, even if you break through, you have to deal with over a thousand tanks and infantry along with gunships strafing the streets.
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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:09 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:To be realistic the attack on Ardakan has little chance at succeding. My heavy armored force is based in the area, and those MBTs and heavy IFVs will chew up the lightly armed landing force. Ardakan is also.the most heavily fortified, and defended of the three sectors. In addition there are a quite a lot of aircraft in the area.

Qirabashi landing is more of a toss up. It does not possess heavy armor like Ardakan however the forces in Qiraibashi are reasonably fortified. The coalition seems to be focusing most of its efforts in the city as well. It will come down to tactics.

The Ultsengel landing will probably suceed unless something drastic happens. The city is poorly defended compared to the other two. The area will probably give way to the coalition.


I think with significant missile bombardment coupled with air power (assuming we've destroyed local SAM batteries) should pave the way for infantry-heavy clearing of Qirabashi.

EDIT: As we saw at Normandy, bunkers & pillboxes are no match for wave after wave of men.

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