Benevolence's Vengeance (MT, OOC, Open)

[The Tekkit Guy]

Hey guys I'm ba- oh what happened? There's more fighting here than the IC.

[The United Remnants of America]

Hey guys I'm ba- oh what happened? There's more fighting here than the IC.

If that's true, then I think Sen and Cong have each built up a score high enough to use a tactical nuke and cleanse the OOC.

[Ranoria]

To be fair, I'm going to ask the following. If it's denied, oh well, but I'm going to request this:
Even though it's well out of their range, the fighters return to a carrier I have like 8 days off. My fleet sinks though.

And Cong, I'm going to draft up a MASSIVE ORBAT for a full declaration of war. Sinking The Spear will not make the citizens of the Empire happy. I'm an island nation, I have like endless navy for a reason.

Define endless. I'm an island nation and my navy has 160 aircraft carriers (20 supercarriers, 40 fleet carriers, 100 light carriers). And this is recently retconned down from twice that number.

Losing soldiers doesn't instantly rally the population to war.

Tell that to the British immediately following the sinking of the Hood. Half the Royal Navy ran off on a manhunt for one ship. I'd imagine this is much the same situation; I know it would be if it was the Lalath's group that was sunk. Those 8 ships are rapidly becoming a living legend.

RMS Valasvow
RMS Diplomacy(Invincible Class)
RMS Haunted(Invincible Class)
RMS Blood Feud(Queen Elizabeth Class)
RMS Execution(Queen Elizabeth Class)
Harriers are armed with Sea Eagle anti ship missiles All are armed with 30mm guns
6 Zumwalt Class Destroyers
8 Alvaro de Bazan F100 Class Frigates
8 Dakota Class Interceptors
6 Kirov Class Cruisers
3 Ohio Class Submarines
8 Littoral Combat Ships (4 Freedom Class, 4 Independence Class)
12 Flight III Arleigh-Burke Class Destroyers
5 K130 Braunschweig Class Corvettes


Air Wings and Armaments-
Gerald R. Ford: Air Wing: 75 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter; 10 E2D Hawkeye
mods-additional 2 RIM-162 Launchers, 2x Phalanx CIWS, 2 Crotale CN2
Queen Elizabeth Class Carriers-Air Wing-40 British Aerospace Harrier II, 2 E2D Hawkeye Helicopters
Invincible Class: Air Wing: 2 ASaC.7 'Sea King, 15 British Aerospace Harrier II
Zumwalt Pods-35 RIM 167, 30 Anti-ship longe range tactical tomahawk, 15 RUM-139
Alvaro de Bazan mods-Modifications-MK38 20mm machine guns positioned at every 65 meters along railing, interrupting railing, which connects with the sturdy, steel pole the guns are mounted on. These are used to destroy smaller incoming vessels. 2 RIM 167 launchers with 20 missiles each, 1 Crotale CN2 CIWS, 2x Phalanx CIWS
Ohio Class Submarine Armaments-Supersonic Sea-skimming cruise missiles, anti-ship ballistic missiles
Skjold Class: Mod: 1 Phalanx CIWS
Arleigh Burke Flight Deck: 2 "Firescout" drones
K130 Flight Deck: 2 "Firescout" Drones
Arleigh Burke Mods: 2 Anti-Ship mod Tactical Tomahawks replacing tomahawks, additional Phalanx CIWS gun, 1 Crotale CN2
All-
All ships, if CIWS aren't mentioned, have been equipped with 1 additional Phalanx CIWS and 1 Crotale CN2 CIWS
Additional ships(No mods)-
6 Arleigh BurkeFlight II destroyers., 1 Firescout drone on Helipad
2 la fayette Class Frigates
2 Zumwalt Class Destroyers

Might I suggest you run this ORBAT through the NS Military Realism Consultation Thread? It's much better than the last one, but there are still some issues with it, and I'm too tired right now to type up a long post. Ask them about weapons load outs for ships, air wing and fleet organization, and most importantly how to use AEW aircraft.

You don't have to if you don't want to obviously, but you might find it helpful. And don't be surprised if they rip most of your ideas to shreds, they do that to most of my ideas too.

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By the way, did we ever get an explanation of why Qiraj shot down Benevolence in the first place, especially after permitting its presence on Qiraji soil?

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I have 7 nimitz, 3 gerald r fords, 6 queen elizabeth's, 16 Invincible class.
160 Aircraft Carriers is ALOT dude. Like, you will never be lacking for air power at seas. That's awesome.
And I will run it through Realism, thanks for the sugestion.

[Congreveopia]

Can I bring part of my navy?

Your ground forge is big enough to fill the deployment I'm willing to give you right now. When you get a reason to send reinforcements, you can have some of them be a navy. For now, use your submarines.

Just wanna say, think the Nexus and stuff (especially the plane) would be really cool to see. That plane would be AWESOME to see in this RP, even if it would never realistically function.
PLEEEEAAASE I WANNA SHOOT IT DOWN!!!
But srsly, that stuff would be cool to see.

Whenever I bring Nexus, Fortress, or Destiny into an RP, any moral high-ground I have with regard to realisim disappears.

I'll see what I can do, though...

(they have drones too, you know, in addition to helicopters)

You should mention them using drones then. It doesn't change anything really, because NFR's team wouldn't have noticed the drones, but you should still mention a system if you're using it (apologies if I just missed the part where you mention the drones).

@Cong, would it be okay if the Foreign Intelligence Directorate perpetrated some sabotage at Kocahisar?

Probably, yeah. I'd say keep it quiet/small/untraceable, because the airfield is semi-neutral, so if the attack gets traced back to you, everyone on the Coalition gets a bit more of a reason to send more forces.

Also, word of advice, helicopters are probably the best target. We need them for the final stage of the airlift, and they take the longest to fly in replacements for. Personally, my Mi-17s will arrive there around 1730 hours on the 9th.

Tell that to the British immediately following the sinking of the Hood. Half the Royal Navy ran off on a manhunt for one ship. I'd imagine this is much the same situation; I know it would be if it was the Lalath's group that was sunk. Those 8 ships are rapidly becoming a living legend.

There are some important differences there:

• That's the government sending a lot of forces after a target, not the civilians demanding they do so.
• All the British Navy was already basically fighting. They were moving around people who were going to be fighting anyways, not sending more people off to battle.
• WWII is before massive media coverage of wars was common. I think it's not really fair to compare to anything much before Vietnam when talking about public opinion of war in the modern day.

[Senkaku]

@Cong, would it be okay if the Foreign Intelligence Directorate perpetrated some sabotage at Kocahisar?

Probably, yeah. I'd say keep it quiet/small/untraceable, because the airfield is semi-neutral, so if the attack gets traced back to you, everyone on the Coalition gets a bit more of a reason to send more forces.

Also, word of advice, helicopters are probably the best target. We need them for the final stage of the airlift, and they take the longest to fly in replacements for. Personally, my Mi-17s will arrive there around 1730 hours on the 9th.

It'll probably be some rigged explosions and stuff.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Not enough time to make a post, Senaku can you make a post about me accepting being integrated to STAVKA.

[Senkaku]

Not enough time to make a post, Senaku can you make a post about me accepting being integrated to STAVKA.

Whenever I post next, yes, be happy to.

Score: Political Department-1, bourgeois foreigners-0

[Ranoria]

Not enough time to make a post, Senaku can you make a post about me accepting being integrated to STAVKA.

Whenever I post next, yes, be happy to.

Score: Political Department-1, bourgeois foreigners-0

Why has you not posted the thing yet? My men and yours can't just stand there all day.
If you're not going to post about ordering us to give command, then tell me, and I'll take command of Qiraibashi. Otherwise, make the post.

[Senkaku]

Whenever I post next, yes, be happy to.

Score: Political Department-1, bourgeois foreigners-0

Why has you not posted the thing yet? My men and yours can't just stand there all day.
If you're not going to post about ordering us to give command, then tell me, and I'll take command of Qiraibashi. Otherwise, make the post.

For the love of God, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, OOC time is separate from IC time. They're not just standing there, and launching a hostile takeover of Qiraibashi would be an act of war that would get you killed, since there are thousands of Qiraji troops stationed there fortifying the city.


Godmotherfuckingdamn.

[Ranoria]

Why has you not posted the thing yet? My men and yours can't just stand there all day.
If you're not going to post about ordering us to give command, then tell me, and I'll take command of Qiraibashi. Otherwise, make the post.

For the love of God, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, OOC time is separate from IC time. They're not just standing there, and launching a hostile takeover of Qiraibashi would be an act of war that would get you killed, since there are thousands of Qiraji troops stationed there fortifying the city.


Godmotherfuckingdamn.

I never said I would launch an invasion, just that I'd take command (unless you attack me, then I kill all of them(Once my main forces arrive))
And I understand that IC and OC time are different, otherwise it'd be like the 16th. I'm just impatient. Don't get angryidified.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Cong, due to the escalation of hostilities with Ranoria IC, could i bring in a surface action group? Battlehip, destroyers, frigates and cruisers?

[The United Remnants of America]

I may need to bring in more mercenaries...

[Congreveopia]

Cong, due to the escalation of hostilities with Ranoria IC, could i bring in a surface action group? Battlehip, destroyers, frigates and cruisers?

I may need to bring in more mercenaries...

Yes and yes. Your forces are relatively small from an OOC balancing-the-teams point of view, so you can go for that. You'll probably have a couple weeks delay (depending on the speed and transport routes), but once you post another ORBAT, you can begin transporting it right away.

URA, from an IC realisim standpoint, you've got a fairly large force for a mercenary army, I think. If you want to look up some stats on PMCs IRL and tell me I'm wrong, go ahead (because I've done zero research at time of writing), but if you start bringing in significantly more forces, I need a realistic explanation of where these mercenaries are coming from.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

1st Fleet, 2nd Surface Action Group
Commander: Knight-Vice-Admiral Felonius Alsca Torrun

2 Razgriz Class Nuclear Guided Battleships
-N.B.B. Enforcer (NGB-4)
-N.B.B. Valkyrie (NGB-5)

Carrying: One UF-05 Sniper VTOL UCAV each
Armament each: 16 × 16-Inch (406mm) Guns
30 × 10-Inch (254 mm) Guns
16 × Octuple Medium Range Vertical Launch System (16)
16 × Octuple Long Range Vertical Launch Systems
8 × Missile Canisters (2 × 4)
8 × Short Range Missile Launchers
8 × Chimera G-IV Combination Anti-Missile Defense System (CADS)
6 × MK-59 Cruise Missile 48 cell VLS (2 Forward, 4 Aft)
4 × Quadruple Phalanx G-III CIWS
2 × MK-59 Strategic 32 cell VLS (2, sides of superstructure)
2 × Killer Dart "Interceptor" Torpedo Launchers
2 × Quintuple mount type MK-32 Torpedo Launchers
2 × MK-32 Torpedo Launchers

1 Longsword Class Arsenal Ship
-N.B.B. Comet (FAS-11)

Carrying: One AH-3 Anakonda Attack Helicopter
Three UF-05 Sniper VTOL UCAV's
Armament:256 × GWLS.102M2 1-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 2.8 × 2.8 × 25 m^3; 8 × 32 (i.e., 16×2) module arrays, 4 each at A, B, X, and Y mounts)(256 cells)
640 x GWLS.58M6 : dual length 4-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.85 m × 0.85 m × 12/24 m^3; 40 × 16-module arrays, 20 port and 20 starboard amidships (i.e., P and Q positions))(5120 cells)
864 × GWLS.35M3 dual length 8-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.7 × 0.7 × 9/18 m^3; arranged along sides in 4 long arrays, 2 port and starboard fore, 2 port and starboard aft, 30 x 16-module arrays, 10 fore of A mount, 20 fore of X mount)(13,824 cells)
164 × LY774 35 mm naval autocannons (in remote weapon stations; dispersed)
8 × 324 mm triple torpedo tubes (for anti-torpedo hard-kill and ASW defence)
9 × CIWS missile defence batteries (bow, 4 superstructure (fore, aft, port and starboard), port and starboard of X mount, 2 aft)

5 Seagull Class Destroyers
-N.B.B. Orellio (DD-31)
-N.B.B. Jonathan (DD-32)
-N.B.B. Cody James (DD-33)
-N.B.B. Harley (DD-34)
-N.B.B. Jessika (DD-35)

Armament:80 x Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS) Cells
2 x 6-Inch Coniver Deck gun
2 x Phalanx CIWS

2 Coral Class Missile Cruisers
-N.B.B. Protector (CAM-12)
-N.B.B. Desert (CAM-13)

Carrying: One UH-35 Kondor Multirole Helicopters each
Armament:120 x Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS) Cells
1 x 8-Inch Coniver II Deck gun
4 x Phalanx CIWS

1 Battleaxe Class Heavy Missile Cruiser
-N.B.B. Rayburn (CAM-16)

Carrying: One UH-35 Kondor Multirole Helicopter
Armament:3 triple (3 X 3) 205mm/55 RF LY368 guns (12 rnds per gun per minute)
6 twin (6 X 2) 3-inch/50 Mk27/33 guns
16 x GWLS.35M2 4-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.7 × 0.7 × 9m^3)
1 x 8-cell Multirole torpedo launcher
2 x 21 cell RIM-116 RAM launchers
2 x TKWA/MASS decoy launcher
6 x Phalanx CIWS

1 Belisarius Class ELINT Ships
-N.B.B. Surveyor (ESV-1)

Armament: 1 x Phalanx CIWS
4 x Deck mounted machine guns
Varying Missile/Torpedo conventional/electronic countermeasures

6 Defender Class Frigates
-N.B.B. Colbert (FG-3)
-N.B.B. Andrews (FG-4)
-N.B.B. Samuel B. Roberts (FG-5)
-N.B.B. Vaynerchuck (FG-6)
-N.B.B. Osterreich (FG-7)
-N.B.B. Franklin (FG-8)

Carrying: One UH-35 Kondor Multirole Helicopters each
Armament:x20 Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS) Cells
1 x 30mm Monarch Autocannon
1 x Phalanx CIWS
1 x Depth Charge launcher

2 Legion Class LIttoral Combat Ships
-N.B.B. Frederick (LCS-39)
-N.B.B. Fowler (LCS-40

Armament:Gun: OTO Melara 76 mm/62 Super Rapid DP Gun
8 x RGM-501 'Thor' Anti-Ship/Surface Missile
1 x RIM-116 RAM launcher (21-cell)/16 x VLS cells for XM501 NLOS or VL MICA
1 x Phalanx 20 mm CIWS

2 Griffon Class Littoral Combat Ships
-N.B.B. Sir Ryan (LCS-41)
-N.B.B. Schwerpunkt (LCS-42)

Carrying: One AH-3 Anakonda Attack Helicopter each
Armament:1 x 127 mm gun
8 x RGM-501 'Thor' missiles
11 x SeaRAM missiles
1 x Phalanx CIWS/Comparable CIWS

mmmmmk and Ranoria shall be sunk under the might of this fleet.
EDIT=Also some of these ships can carry helicopters/VTOL UCAV's along with RHIB's if Cong wants I can add those in as well. Wouldn't be more than one per ship.

[Congreveopia]

1st Fleet, 2nd Surface Action Group
Commander: Knight-Vice-Admiral Felonius Alsca Torrun

2 Razgriz Class Nuclear Guided Battleships
-N.B.B. Enforcer (NGB-4)
-N.B.B. Valkyrie (NGB-5)

1 Longsword Class Arsenal Ship
-N.B.B. Comet (FAS-11)

5 Seagull Class Destroyers
-N.B.B. Orellio (DD-31)
-N.B.B. Jonathan (DD-32)
-N.B.B. Cody James (DD-33)
-N.B.B. Harley (DD-34)
-N.B.B. Jessika (DD-35)

2 Coral Class Missile Cruisers
-N.B.B. Protector (CAM-12)
-N.B.B. Desert (CAM-13)

1 Battleaxe Class Heavy Missile Cruiser
-N.B.B. Rayburn (CAM-16)

1 Belisarius Class ELINT Ships
-N.B.B. Surveyor (ESV-1)

6 Defender Class Frigates
-N.B.B. Colbert (FG-3)
-N.B.B. Andrews (FG-4)
-N.B.B. Samuel B. Roberts (FG-5)
-N.B.B. Vaynerchuck (FG-6)
-N.B.B. Osterreich (FG-7)
-N.B.B. Franklin (FG-8)

2 Legion Class LIttoral Combat Ships
-N.B.B. Frederick (LCS-39)
-N.B.B. Fowler (LCS-40

2 Griffon Class Littoral Combat Ships
-N.B.B. Sir Ryan (LCS-41)
-N.B.B. Schwerpunkt (LCS-42)


mmmmmk and Ranoria shall be sunk under the might of this fleet.
EDIT=Also some of these ships can carry helicopters/VTOL UCAV's along with RHIB's if Cong wants I can add those in as well. Wouldn't be more than one per ship.

Adding the aircraft would probably be good. If you have major landing craft, like LCACs or LCM-8s, you should include those as well. We can just assume that ships have a reasonable amount of smaller craft like RHIBs.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Alright, I'll add the birds on to it. And no this fleet doesn't have landing craft. The BCT that is participating in the invasion will either capture or construct a field airstrip for any further reinforcements into the area.

EDIT= Added air power and armament of all ships.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Alright, I'll add the birds on to it. And no this fleet doesn't have landing craft. The BCT that is participating in the invasion will either capture or construct a field airstrip for any further reinforcements into the area.

EDIT= Added air power and armament of all ships.

My subs are sad...

[Mitheldalond]

Alright, I'll add the birds on to it. And no this fleet doesn't have landing craft. The BCT that is participating in the invasion will either capture or construct a field airstrip for any further reinforcements into the area.

EDIT= Added air power and armament of all ships.

If that Longsword is the Lyran variety, then I really wish you were on Qiraj's side. One of my ultimate goals in NS is to capture a Longsword intact.

Though if we have a Longsword, I won't need to bring in more ships to survive Ranoria's fleet. If we have a Longsword (and more importantly, a whole bunch of aircraft carriers), Qiraj is going to need a lot more allies. Especially allies with large navies.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Indeed it is a Lyran Longsword, however, I'm sure the mass of this fleet will require a rather long transit time so we might need more ships

[The Selkie]

Indeed it is a Lyran Longsword, however, I'm sure the mass of this fleet will require a rather long transit time so we might need more ships

Short question, what's so special about Lyran Subs?

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Indeed it is a Lyran Longsword, however, I'm sure the mass of this fleet will require a rather long transit time so we might need more ships

Short question, what's so special about Lyran Subs?

The Longsword isn't a sub

[The GAmeTopians]

Alright, I'll add the birds on to it. And no this fleet doesn't have landing craft. The BCT that is participating in the invasion will either capture or construct a field airstrip for any further reinforcements into the area.

EDIT= Added air power and armament of all ships.

If that Longsword is the Lyran variety, then I really wish you were on Qiraj's side. One of my ultimate goals in NS is to capture a Longsword intact.

Though if we have a Longsword, I won't need to bring in more ships to survive Ranoria's fleet. If we have a Longsword (and more importantly, a whole bunch of aircraft carriers), Qiraj is going to need a lot more allies. Especially allies with large navies.

I can order more Longswords outside of IC time, since I have Omega access on Lyran Arms. Lyras gave it to me last year
Be right back.

[Congreveopia]

1 Longsword Class Arsenal Ship
-N.B.B. Comet (FAS-11)

Carrying: One AH-3 Anakonda Attack Helicopter
Three UF-05 Sniper VTOL UCAV's
Armament:256 × GWLS.102M2 1-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 2.8 × 2.8 × 25 m^3; 8 × 32 (i.e., 16×2) module arrays, 4 each at A, B, X, and Y mounts)(256 cells)
640 x GWLS.58M6 : dual length 4-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.85 m × 0.85 m × 12/24 m^3; 40 × 16-module arrays, 20 port and 20 starboard amidships (i.e., P and Q positions))(5120 cells)
864 × GWLS.35M3 dual length 8-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.7 × 0.7 × 9/18 m^3; arranged along sides in 4 long arrays, 2 port and starboard fore, 2 port and starboard aft, 30 x 16-module arrays, 10 fore of A mount, 20 fore of X mount)(13,824 cells)
164 × LY774 35 mm naval autocannons (in remote weapon stations; dispersed)
8 × 324 mm triple torpedo tubes (for anti-torpedo hard-kill and ASW defence)
9 × CIWS missile defence batteries (bow, 4 superstructure (fore, aft, port and starboard), port and starboard of X mount, 2 aft)

Sooo, I just looked up this fellow's stats on the Lyran arms page, and... well...

Rules 'n stuff:

• Don't deploy five aircraft carriers to take out a fishing boat (keep deployments realistic).

Now, you're welcome to try to explain why your nation would realistically send this, but bear in mind that this is the equivalent of sending over two hundred and fifty Nimitz class aircraft carriers, when I've been hesitant to let other nations send two, so I had better hear a really good explanation if you want this thing to be part of the fleet.

[The Selkie]

Short question, what's so special about Lyran Subs?

The Longsword isn't a sub

Sorry, "Supercapital Guided Missile Warship" or "supercapital fleet command ship".
My mistake. Mea culpa.
So, what's the big deal about them?

[The GAmeTopians]

1 Longsword Class Arsenal Ship
-N.B.B. Comet (FAS-11)

Carrying: One AH-3 Anakonda Attack Helicopter
Three UF-05 Sniper VTOL UCAV's
Armament:256 × GWLS.102M2 1-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 2.8 × 2.8 × 25 m^3; 8 × 32 (i.e., 16×2) module arrays, 4 each at A, B, X, and Y mounts)(256 cells)
640 x GWLS.58M6 : dual length 4-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.85 m × 0.85 m × 12/24 m^3; 40 × 16-module arrays, 20 port and 20 starboard amidships (i.e., P and Q positions))(5120 cells)
864 × GWLS.35M3 dual length 8-cell VLS (cell dimensions: 0.7 × 0.7 × 9/18 m^3; arranged along sides in 4 long arrays, 2 port and starboard fore, 2 port and starboard aft, 30 x 16-module arrays, 10 fore of A mount, 20 fore of X mount)(13,824 cells)
164 × LY774 35 mm naval autocannons (in remote weapon stations; dispersed)
8 × 324 mm triple torpedo tubes (for anti-torpedo hard-kill and ASW defence)
9 × CIWS missile defence batteries (bow, 4 superstructure (fore, aft, port and starboard), port and starboard of X mount, 2 aft)

Sooo, I just looked up this fellow's stats on the Lyran arms page, and... well...

Rules 'n stuff:

• Don't deploy five aircraft carriers to take out a fishing boat (keep deployments realistic).

Now, you're welcome to try to explain why your nation would realistically send this, but bear in mind that this is the equivalent of sending over two hundred and fifty Nimitz class aircraft carriers, when I've been hesitant to let other nations send two, so I had better hear a really good explanation if you want this thing to be part of the fleet.

I won't send one right away, just if we need more help...