Benevolence's Vengeance (MT, OOC, Open)

[The GAmeTopians]

There aren't going to be many going in filled with fuel. Maybe one or two a month for some of the weird types that aren't produced natively.

Anyways, you could try to do everything you've described (we'd need to talk about the feasibility of bombing a Halian port), but remember that the more brutal/evil Qiraj and its allies seem, the more supporting the civilian population of the coalition will be of the war effort. And unless Qiraj is planning on fighting the coalition all the way back to the streets of Congreveopolis, war-weariness among the population of the coalition nations will probably be your only way to win.

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

If you fight dirty our populace will only want to kill you more. Thus, I can send shitloads of stuff. You don't want that.

[Congreveopia]

There aren't going to be many going in filled with fuel. Maybe one or two a month for some of the weird types that aren't produced natively.

Anyways, you could try to do everything you've described (we'd need to talk about the feasibility of bombing a Halian port), but remember that the more brutal/evil Qiraj and its allies seem, the more supporting the civilian population of the coalition will be of the war effort. And unless Qiraj is planning on fighting the coalition all the way back to the streets of Congreveopolis, war-weariness among the population of the coalition nations will probably be your only way to win.

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

As I said, you're totally free to do this. You'll need to clear individual plans with me first, as Senkaku cleared the attack on Kocahisar, but everything you've suggested is allowed from an OOC perspective. Go right ahead.

Mizentia, did you check your post was okay with Senkaku before making it? It does presuppose some aspects of his defenses, and I'm just making sure I don't have to avert (or mediate) a massive argument.

[Ranoria]

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

If you fight dirty our populace will only want to kill you more. Thus, I can send shitloads of stuff. You don't want that.

Not really scared of this. I personally believe that with a total deployment my army can go toe-to-toe with just about anything.
Currently foreseeable scenarios where I would do this-
A: An extended stalemate in Qiraibashi (Needed to show Ranorian power in a stalemate, maybe throw off the enemy a bit)
B: The Valasvow and its fleet being destroyed (Desperation, which we tend to avoid showing, but necessary due to fleet's inadequacy if destroyed)
C: An attack on the Ranorian Homeland (goes without saying)
D: A complete obliteration of the currently deployed coalition navy (This would mean that the Coalition would be preparing their ships for launch, and I would either strike immediately or just after they're launched. The first would let me take them out before they're deployed, the second would leave me an opening)
E: Fall of Qiraj with massive death toll from Ranoria. This would depend on the populace either wanting revenge or maybe just wanting to be done with war. You never know.
Also, I wouldn't just be doing this to Hale Isles, this would be a simultaneous attack on numerous ports of all of the coalition nations. I would probably target docked navies if possible with a few guided missiles, but otherwise just hammer the populace and port with thousands of mortar shells, alot of artillery, Hydra Missiles, hell maybe even some Valkyrie Rockets and RPG-7s. What's great is that it would be difficult to stop just because most navies are docked and military presence won't be very strong there.
Hell, I'd even be able to intercept a few incoming attacks with the Metal Storm Mortars. Wow, this would work pretty well actually.

[The GAmeTopians]

If you fight dirty our populace will only want to kill you more. Thus, I can send shitloads of stuff. You don't want that.

Not really scared of this. I personally believe that with a total deployment my army can go toe-to-toe with just about anything.
Currently foreseeable scenarios where I would do this-
A: An extended stalemate in Qiraibashi (Needed to show Ranorian power in a stalemate, maybe throw off the enemy a bit)
B: The Valasvow and its fleet being destroyed (Desperation, which we tend to avoid showing, but necessary due to fleet's inadequacy if destroyed)
C: An attack on the Ranorian Homeland (goes without saying)
D: A complete obliteration of the currently deployed coalition navy (This would mean that the Coalition would be preparing their ships for launch, and I would either strike immediately or just after they're launched. The first would let me take them out before they're deployed, the second would leave me an opening)
E: Fall of Qiraj with massive death toll from Ranoria. This would depend on the populace either wanting revenge or maybe just wanting to be done with war. You never know.
Also, I wouldn't just be doing this to Hale Isles, this would be a simultaneous attack on numerous ports of all of the coalition nations. I would probably target docked navies if possible with a few guided missiles, but otherwise just hammer the populace and port with thousands of mortar shells, alot of artillery, Hydra Missiles, hell maybe even some Valkyrie Rockets and RPG-7s. What's great is that it would be difficult to stop just because most navies are docked and military presence won't be very strong there.
Hell, I'd even be able to intercept a few incoming attacks with the Metal Storm Mortars. Wow, this would work pretty well actually.

OK, first of all, how would you successfully attack the ports of all the coalition nations? Not sure about the other nations, but Cong and I probably have some of the biggest military budgets you'll see active in II. You attack my homeland, you die. Pretty much right off the bat.
And in any case, we're not planning to annex Qiraj. We're just punishing them for the attack in Qiraj - Oh, and Senkaku, I want my guys from Benevolence Down back. Can you RP taking them somewhere (or executing them if you want to be mean)?

[Mizentia]

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

As I said, you're totally free to do this. You'll need to clear individual plans with me first, as Senkaku cleared the attack on Kocahisar, but everything you've suggested is allowed from an OOC perspective. Go right ahead.

Mizentia, did you check your post was okay with Senkaku before making it? It does presuppose some aspects of his defenses, and I'm just making sure I don't have to avert (or mediate) a massive argument.

Not explicitly but I've made at least 3 posts regarding the attack, illustrating what I was going to do, and I don't think I've actually presumed anything about his defenses, only that they exist and are in place, since I ended my post right when Qiraj would have begun responding on their end, which - knowing him - might take the form of anything from a meek exchange of gunfire to a gauntlet of missiles and bunkers and whatever else.

[Ranoria]

As I said, you're totally free to do this. You'll need to clear individual plans with me first, as Senkaku cleared the attack on Kocahisar, but everything you've suggested is allowed from an OOC perspective. Go right ahead.

Mizentia, did you check your post was okay with Senkaku before making it? It does presuppose some aspects of his defenses, and I'm just making sure I don't have to avert (or mediate) a massive argument.

Not explicitly but I've made at least 3 posts regarding the attack, illustrating what I was going to do, and I don't think I've actually presumed anything about his defenses, only that they exist and are in place, since I ended my post right when Qiraj would have begun responding on their end, which - knowing him - might take the form of anything from a meek exchange of gunfire to a gauntlet of missiles and bunkers and whatever else.

Nothing targeting Qiraibashi, just Ultsengel, right? I'm kind of hoping Qiriaibashi doesn't come under assault until like 0400-0550 hours so we can get the defenses in place. After that though, bring it on. I ain't scared of yo cruise missieles. (second 'i' long)
EDIT: And as long as STAVKA doesn't order them out, my men aren't leaving Qiraibashi, sorry. Honestly, my army might just use Qiraibashi as a last stand location if need be.

[Mitheldalond]

Hopefully I'll get a post up tonight. I need to do a bit of research on radar stuff first. Also, Ranoria and Gametopia, how many people do you want to have survived from your destroyed fleets?

There aren't going to be many going in filled with fuel. Maybe one or two a month for some of the weird types that aren't produced natively.

Anyways, you could try to do everything you've described (we'd need to talk about the feasibility of bombing a Halian port), but remember that the more brutal/evil Qiraj and its allies seem, the more supporting the civilian population of the coalition will be of the war effort. And unless Qiraj is planning on fighting the coalition all the way back to the streets of Congreveopolis, war-weariness among the population of the coalition nations will probably be your only way to win.

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

I'd like to take this time to point out that the Mitheldalond you've been fighting so far (and the one that so efficiently decapitated your previous fleet) has not really had anything against you. We haven't been fighting you because we hate Ranoria, or even mildly dislike them. Mitheldalond so far hasn't been angry or even slightly annoyed with Ranoria. We've only been shooting at you because we happen to be on opposite sides of the war. Nothing personal.

If you start attacking civilian ports and other targets, especially in a nation I'm allies with, Mitheldalond is going to become rather irritated with you. And if you start murdering tons of people just to use their corpses for some kind of sick psychological warfare, well we're going to start getting angry at you.

You've seen what Mitheldalond can do with 8 ships and no real vendetta against Ranoria. Imagine what I could do with 100 ships and a very real vendetta against you.

Just something to think about.

[Mizentia]

Not explicitly but I've made at least 3 posts regarding the attack, illustrating what I was going to do, and I don't think I've actually presumed anything about his defenses, only that they exist and are in place, since I ended my post right when Qiraj would have begun responding on their end, which - knowing him - might take the form of anything from a meek exchange of gunfire to a gauntlet of missiles and bunkers and whatever else.

Nothing targeting Qiraibashi, just Ultsengel, right? I'm kind of hoping Qiriaibashi doesn't come under assault until like 0400-0550 hours so we can get the defenses in place. After that though, bring it on. I ain't scared of yo cruise missieles. (second 'i' long)
EDIT: And as long as STAVKA doesn't order them out, my men aren't leaving Qiraibashi, sorry. Honestly, my army might just use Qiraibashi as a last stand location if need be.

Righto

[Congreveopia]

As I said, you're totally free to do this. You'll need to clear individual plans with me first, as Senkaku cleared the attack on Kocahisar, but everything you've suggested is allowed from an OOC perspective. Go right ahead.

Mizentia, did you check your post was okay with Senkaku before making it? It does presuppose some aspects of his defenses, and I'm just making sure I don't have to avert (or mediate) a massive argument.

Not explicitly but I've made at least 3 posts regarding the attack, illustrating what I was going to do, and I don't think I've actually presumed anything about his defenses, only that they exist and are in place, since I ended my post right when Qiraj would have begun responding on their end, which - knowing him - might take the form of anything from a meek exchange of gunfire to a gauntlet of missiles and bunkers and whatever else.

Yeah, fair point. I'm not going to make anything of it if Senkaku doesn't. Just keeping a weather eye open for conflict. Speaking of...

Not really scared of this. I personally believe that with a total deployment my army can go toe-to-toe with just about anything.
Currently foreseeable scenarios where I would do this-
A: An extended stalemate in Qiraibashi (Needed to show Ranorian power in a stalemate, maybe throw off the enemy a bit)
B: The Valasvow and its fleet being destroyed (Desperation, which we tend to avoid showing, but necessary due to fleet's inadequacy if destroyed)
C: An attack on the Ranorian Homeland (goes without saying)
D: A complete obliteration of the currently deployed coalition navy (This would mean that the Coalition would be preparing their ships for launch, and I would either strike immediately or just after they're launched. The first would let me take them out before they're deployed, the second would leave me an opening)
E: Fall of Qiraj with massive death toll from Ranoria. This would depend on the populace either wanting revenge or maybe just wanting to be done with war. You never know.
Also, I wouldn't just be doing this to Hale Isles, this would be a simultaneous attack on numerous ports of all of the coalition nations. I would probably target docked navies if possible with a few guided missiles, but otherwise just hammer the populace and port with thousands of mortar shells, alot of artillery, Hydra Missiles, hell maybe even some Valkyrie Rockets and RPG-7s. What's great is that it would be difficult to stop just because most navies are docked and military presence won't be very strong there.
Hell, I'd even be able to intercept a few incoming attacks with the Metal Storm Mortars. Wow, this would work pretty well actually.

OK, first of all, how would you successfully attack the ports of all the coalition nations? Not sure about the other nations, but Cong and I probably have some of the biggest military budgets you'll see active in II. You attack my homeland, you die. Pretty much right off the bat.
And in any case, we're not planning to annex Qiraj. We're just punishing them for the attack in Qiraj - Oh, and Senkaku, I want my guys from Benevolence Down back. Can you RP taking them somewhere (or executing them if you want to be mean)?

Unless Ranoria's actually going to do anything, this is just posturing. We can discuss this in more detail if he ever tries to go through with such an attack.

[Mizentia]

Not explicitly but I've made at least 3 posts regarding the attack, illustrating what I was going to do, and I don't think I've actually presumed anything about his defenses, only that they exist and are in place, since I ended my post right when Qiraj would have begun responding on their end, which - knowing him - might take the form of anything from a meek exchange of gunfire to a gauntlet of missiles and bunkers and whatever else.

Yeah, fair point. I'm not going to make anything of it if Senkaku doesn't. Just keeping a weather eye open for conflict. Speaking of...

I get what you're saying though and Senkaku, if you think I've misrepresented anything, I invite you to re-frame things in your own post

[Ranoria]

Hopefully I'll get a post up tonight. I need to do a bit of research on radar stuff first. Also, Ranoria and Gametopia, how many people do you want to have survived from your destroyed fleets?

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

I'd like to take this time to point out that the Mitheldalond you've been fighting so far (and the one that so efficiently decapitated your previous fleet) has not really had anything against you. We haven't been fighting you because we hate Ranoria, or even mildly dislike them. Mitheldalond so far hasn't been angry or even slightly annoyed with Ranoria. We've only been shooting at you because we happen to be on opposite sides of the war. Nothing personal.

If you start attacking civilian ports and other targets, especially in a nation I'm allies with, Mitheldalond is going to become rather irritated with you. And if you start murdering tons of people just to use their corpses for some kind of sick psychological warfare, well we're going to start getting angry at you.

You've seen what Mitheldalond can do with 8 ships and no real vendetta against Ranoria. Imagine what I could do with 100 ships and a very real vendetta against you.

Just something to think about.

I don't really care how many survive, maybe a few dozen or few hundred depending on which is more realistic (None from the Bloodhound though)
As for the fleet, you also have to consider my very poor organization and honestly more than a few below par warships.
Now though, I'm equipped to deal with just about anything, and if you send a hundred ships, I'll send another fleet or two, those of the RMS Churdolf XIV and RS Krystaulnacht. Not to mention I could have pretty easily intercepted those missiles that destroyed the Bloodhound, well, not easily, but definitely with a higher than 50% rate for 16 projectiles.
And I'm pretty sure Gametopia's Air Wing was what did the trick, which I could've also taken down. No aircraft is really fast enough to avoid my ESSM and RIM-61 and such.
In other words, I'm going to be more stingy RPing wise, instead of being lenient. I think you underestimate the sheer combat power of each individual ship I'm deploying, as well as the fact that there's a huge number of them.4

@Gametopia
Are you implying that you're constantly ready to take an attack from a cruise ship? Yeah, that's what I thought. Even if you have defenses along the coastlines, you will take casualties before you're able to bring the ships down. Not to mention you might not even know where the attacks are coming from for a few minutes, which is more than enough time to unleash absolute hell with Metal Storm, any cruise missiles on board, and more than a few artillery shots. I'm not invading, this would be more of a terror attack, possibly incorporating a warhead I'm developing specifically for massive effect in unprepared city streets. And when you do start firing, the Metal Storm mortars will* be able to take at least a few missiles down.
I'm not saying that these wouldn't be suicide missions, I am saying that your populace is either going to really hate Ranoria or is going to want to give in before we attack again.
And while attacking the Ranorian Homeland would produce similar results if done in such a manner, an actual invasion would be nigh-impossible. Not to mention your navy would have to get through my coastal patrol.
And once again, I'm only going to do this if such need arises, and then we'll discuss plans and stuff like that.
*MIGHT

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Considering the destruction of the Halian fleet it would be safe to assume that all their armor at least is sent to the bottom of the sea.

[The GAmeTopians]

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

[New Finnish Republic]

lol try and invade my nation. See what happens. What we're sending now is a small Expeditionary force. My nation's military is really centered around defending it's borders. I'd love to see you try and attack.

[Congreveopia]

Hopefully I'll get a post up tonight. I need to do a bit of research on radar stuff first. Also, Ranoria and Gametopia, how many people do you want to have survived from your destroyed fleets?


I'd like to take this time to point out that the Mitheldalond you've been fighting so far (and the one that so efficiently decapitated your previous fleet) has not really had anything against you. We haven't been fighting you because we hate Ranoria, or even mildly dislike them. Mitheldalond so far hasn't been angry or even slightly annoyed with Ranoria. We've only been shooting at you because we happen to be on opposite sides of the war. Nothing personal.

If you start attacking civilian ports and other targets, especially in a nation I'm allies with, Mitheldalond is going to become rather irritated with you. And if you start murdering tons of people just to use their corpses for some kind of sick psychological warfare, well we're going to start getting angry at you.

You've seen what Mitheldalond can do with 8 ships and no real vendetta against Ranoria. Imagine what I could do with 100 ships and a very real vendetta against you.

Just something to think about.

I don't really care how many survive, maybe a few dozen or few hundred depending on which is more realistic (None from the Bloodhound though)
As for the fleet, you also have to consider my very poor organization and honestly more than a few below par warships.
Now though, I'm equipped to deal with just about anything, and if you send a hundred ships, I'll send another fleet or two, those of the RMS Churdolf XIV and RS Krystaulnacht. Not to mention I could have pretty easily intercepted those missiles that destroyed the Bloodhound, well, not easily, but definitely with a higher than 50% rate for 16 projectiles.
And I'm pretty sure Gametopia's Air Wing was what did the trick, which I could've also taken down. No aircraft is really fast enough to avoid my ESSM and RIM-61 and such.
In other words, I'm going to be more stingy RPing wise, instead of being lenient. I think you underestimate the sheer combat power of each individual ship I'm deploying, as well as the fact that there's a huge number of them.4

@Gametopia
Are you implying that you're constantly ready to take an attack from a cruise ship? Yeah, that's what I thought. Even if you have defenses along the coastlines, you will take casualties before you're able to bring the ships down. Not to mention you might not even know where the attacks are coming from for a few minutes, which is more than enough time to unleash absolute hell with Metal Storm, any cruise missiles on board, and more than a few artillery shots. I'm not invading, this would be more of a terror attack, possibly incorporating a warhead I'm developing specifically for massive effect in unprepared city streets. And when you do start firing, the Metal Storm mortars will* be able to take at least a few missiles down.
I'm not saying that these wouldn't be suicide missions, I am saying that your populace is either going to really hate Ranoria or is going to want to give in before we attack again.
And while attacking the Ranorian Homeland would produce similar results if done in such a manner, an actual invasion would be nigh-impossible. Not to mention your navy would have to get through my coastal patrol.
And once again, I'm only going to do this if such need arises, and then we'll discuss plans and stuff like that.
*MIGHT

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

Let's not bog down the OOC with this unless someone's trying to do an actual attack, you two.

lol try and invade my nation. See what happens. What we're sending now is a small Expeditionary force. My nation's military is really centered around defending it's borders. I'd love to see you try and attack.

Yeah, any of our nations get invaded and the scope of this changes significantly. Right now, we're fighting in far away lands for unclear political reasons as far as most of the coalition's civilian population is concerned. That raises issues of lack of support at home and logistical difficulties. Any of us are invaded, and the logistical difficulties vanish because your army is, you know, right there. In your nation. Because that's what it's there for. And the the civilians will support the war a lot more when it's not fighting for some random desert city, but the town next door that they take their summer holiday at.

Considering the destruction of the Halian fleet it would be safe to assume that all their armor at least is sent to the bottom of the sea.

HIDF Hespler is going to survive, and that's where all the armor was. The entire fleet's going to end up withdrawing for repairs and such, though. Hespler is eventually going to be scrapped because it'd cost more to fix the structural damage than build a new ship.

Basically, the armor's actually still around, but it's not going to be invading Qiraj any time soon.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

^ ya know... this could be the pretext for a world war betwixt us....

[Ranoria]

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

1:Battleships aren't going to stop a cruise ship
2:Neither will patrol boats, and those can easily be surprised once the Metal Storms roll out
3:Defense Platforms against a foe inside of them?
4:BMD is standard, but the cruise missiles would be put on ships going after docked military vessels, especially the carriers.
5: You don't seem to understand that you won't know this thing's hostile until it opens up on you.

And while it may be difficult to pull off, the Ranorian Government could honestly just bribe the companies to do this kind of thing. We have the money.
And if you're people won't succumb to tens of thousands of civilian casualties, that's not my problem. I WELCOME an attack on my homeland. Because it will do absolutely nothing. The only way to get to beach without a siege long enough to get a carrier group out there is through my nearly-as-strong ally CP, and then there's my border wall to deal with.
But we aren't discussing these things right now, so I'm done talking about it. We are discussing WHO IS ATTACKING QUIRAIBASHI AND WHEN.
@The Imperium of Birtonia-You never know, but apparently Cong has another RP planned, and so do I for my region.

[New Finnish Republic]

This just donned on me. Kelvinisi, you're going to have to be a LOT closer to even be able to hit our ships. Harpoons only have an effective range of 124 km. Oh, and if you decide to proceed with your attack, prepare to have F-18s with FLIR chasing your subs down with aerial depth charges
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[Congreveopia]

This just donned on me. Kelvinisi, you're going to have to be a LOT closer to even be able to hit our ships. Harpoons only have an effective range of 124 km. Oh, and if you decide to proceed with your attack, prepare to have F-18s with FLIR chasing your subs down with aerial depth charges
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I don't think UGM-84Ls have the range to hit our fleet from near the coast. We're 400 kilometers offshore, so your subs would probably need to be at least 250 kilometers out, and that's assuming they found the ideal position to shoot from (whereas your post suggests they attacked as soon as they spotted the fleet).

Ok I will adjust it to say they are 300 kilometers off shore. I will fire my spearfish torpedoes at the Finn fleet next post.

We already discussed this. What remains unresolved is whether Qiraj's fleet is 300 kilometers offshore with Kelvinsi's submarines.

Go ahead and send the F/A-18s, though. It's not like we'll know IC whether there's a Qiraji fleet until they arrive anyways, seeing as I don't think any of us except Mitheldalond are flying AEW planes.

[Senkaku]

lol try and invade my nation. See what happens. What we're sending now is a small Expeditionary force. My nation's military is really centered around defending it's borders. I'd love to see you try and attack.

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

Well the plan was to demoralize your populace not only by showing that we can attack you if need be, but to drive up oil prices drastically due to threat of a repeated incident and therefore the need to examine every ship thoroughly, as well as just shutting down a port for a few days.
Now what I COULD do is highjack a cruise ship or something and hide a bunch of Hydra Launchers, Metal Storm Mortars, and Artillery guns on it while using the people on board as hostages.
Ranoria only brings honor into play when its own civilians are at risk. When others are, they could honestly care less.

I'd like to take this time to point out that the Mitheldalond you've been fighting so far (and the one that so efficiently decapitated your previous fleet) has not really had anything against you. We haven't been fighting you because we hate Ranoria, or even mildly dislike them. Mitheldalond so far hasn't been angry or even slightly annoyed with Ranoria. We've only been shooting at you because we happen to be on opposite sides of the war. Nothing personal.

If you start attacking civilian ports and other targets, especially in a nation I'm allies with, Mitheldalond is going to become rather irritated with you. And if you start murdering tons of people just to use their corpses for some kind of sick psychological warfare, well we're going to start getting angry at you.

You've seen what Mitheldalond can do with 8 ships and no real vendetta against Ranoria. Imagine what I could do with 100 ships and a very real vendetta against you.

Just something to think about.

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*dickwaving intensifies*
Cut it out, guys. I grow tired of your genital gyrations.

This just donned on me. Kelvinisi, you're going to have to be a LOT closer to even be able to hit our ships. Harpoons only have an effective range of 124 km. Oh, and if you decide to proceed with your attack, prepare to have F-18s with FLIR chasing your subs down with aerial depth charges
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Said F-18s can have fun against the Qiraji air defense screen and the flights of aircraft that were part of the massive cruise missile attack that just hit the Coalition fleet. It's not just gonna be shooting fish in a barrel (well, maybe for the Red Air Force ).

This just donned on me. Kelvinisi, you're going to have to be a LOT closer to even be able to hit our ships. Harpoons only have an effective range of 124 km. Oh, and if you decide to proceed with your attack, prepare to have F-18s with FLIR chasing your subs down with aerial depth charges
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Ok I will adjust it to say they are 300 kilometers off shore. I will fire my spearfish torpedoes at the Finn fleet next post.

We already discussed this. What remains unresolved is whether Qiraj's fleet is 300 kilometers offshore with Kelvinsi's submarines.

Go ahead and send the F/A-18s, though. It's not like we'll know IC whether there's a Qiraji fleet until they arrive anyways, seeing as I don't think any of us except Mitheldalond are flying AEW planes.

The Qiraji fleet is not with the Kelvinsian subs. Nahang and the surviving Kilo from the attack that knocked out the Arnprior were implied to have escaped, the remaining Qiraji submarines are hiding along the coast, and the Red Navy is mostly scattered along the coast as well (and thus firing at extreme range). They are not in port, but they are also not together and in battle formation (in STAVKA's view that's just asking to get blown out of the water all at once).

Most of the missiles being fired at the fleet are coming from Qiraji planes or Strategic Tasks land-based launchers.

That represents about 84% accuracy, meaning I would only have to fire about 8-10 SM-3s to take out 7 missiles.

since this was so helpfully posted please stop the silliness about shooting them down in boost phase kthx

[Congreveopia]

That represents about 84% accuracy, meaning I would only have to fire about 8-10 SM-3s to take out 7 missiles.

since this was so helpfully posted please stop the silliness about shooting them down in boost phase kthx

"Boost phase" is the wrong stage to refer to, but Aegis with SM-3 can target missiles in the late ascent and midcourse stage before and after separation. SM-2s are used for terminal stage kill on individual warheads.

To quote, "[The Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System] Defeats short- to intermediate-range, unitary and separating, midcourse-phase, ballistic missile threats with the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3), as well as short-range ballistic missiles in the terminal phase with the SM-2." [source]

So shooting them down in the boost phase isn't accurate, but they can still be destroyed before separating.

Also, watch your phrasing. It's fine to get mad at GAmeTopia and Ranoria posturing over imaginary situations after requests to stop, but Mitheldalond was not trying to cheat you out of your missiles, he just refered to the engagement phase wrongly, and that's a time to gently correct, not curtly say "You're wrong; you're silly; stop it; 'kthx'."

[The United Remnants of America]

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

That's.... All?

*URA rubs chin while picking up a sticky note with "Game" written on it from a whiteboard titled "Allies" and moves it to another whiteboard titled "Maybe invade?"*

[The GAmeTopians]

You reallythink a nation ne billion people is going to give into one attack? Really? Not happening.
And anyway, my nation would not suffer much from one attack. Let me lay out my defenses OOCly for you.
1. At all times there are two battleships patrolling the seas, one to the east and one to the west of the island, along with their escort.
2. Various patrol boats patrol along the entirety of the sea border, providing early warning of attack.
3. Defense platforms to the north and south of the island.
4. I got one word for you (or four). BMDS.
5. Shifts of aerial patrols from the smaller military island nearby, Shadow Island.

That's.... All?

*URA rubs chin while picking up a sticky note with "Game" written on it from a whiteboard titled "Allies" and moves it to another whiteboard titled "Maybe invade?"*

Dude, this is just what my currently sick brain is currently able to remember. I have more. A lot more.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

I have a wall

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

I changed my mind on my next post, everyone meet my lancers.