Benevolence's Vengeance (MT, OOC, Open)

[Senkaku]

*things go kaboom*


Your CIWS will probably take out a bunch of cruise missiles. You'll get buttfucked by the Soliryns that Mith hasn't shot down, but they carry enough HGVs for everyone, I think.


Congreveopia basically uses the Hale Islands to do its dirty work, from what I've seen thus far...

HGVs?

Hypersonic glide vehicles. Like MIRVs, except they can maneuver and are harder to shoot down.

I can't see it. An imgur upload would be appreciated.

It's just Anakin Skywalker surrounded by flames saying "you underestimate my power".

This will work as well, if you can see it:

[The GAmeTopians]

I see this one. Whatever. I'm a Sith, so I dun give a shit bout Anakin's power or my lack of faith in Vadey-poo.

[Congreveopia]

*Senses a Congreveopia-Hale Isles War RP coming soon*

It's an odd relationship, but the two governments both know they need each other. The problem is the alliance makes a good talking point for candidates running against the sitting government to mock, so with a change of the ruling party in one of the nations, who knows?

Basically, to your average Joe Halian, it appears that Halian soldiers are being sent off to die in Congreveopia's wars, and to your average Josie Congreveopian, it looks like the government is showering this random island group with expensive equipment and tech.

To the governments, the picture is completely different. The Hale Isles are a strategically valuable island group in the middle of an ocean, in NSEarth, which isn't exactly known for its political stability. So Hale Isles needs a powerful ally that genuinely will come to its aid in a war to defend it, and that's worth a couple thousand lives, seeing as I think every single nation in this RP is larger than it. Meanwhile, Congreveopia is trying to meddle in the affairs of every single nation on the planet with varying degrees of success. Hale Isles gives them an army not directly linked back to them, so they can smack a government that they don't like with the Halian military, and the population resent the Halians, not the Congreveopians.

Most of the voting-age Halians remember the DEN-Secoritan war, so they recognise the merit for allies. But if a new generation grows up, another nation offers a different alliance, and a new party takes power, Hale Isles could very well break away from Congreveopia.

If we're employing flying fortresses (which I would honestly rather we not do), I would like to request permission for Qiraj to have some sort of not-as-good-but-still-fuckin'-epic enormous fortress type thing.

Qiraj isn't meant to be a technological powerhouse. I was assuming the Soliryns were about the only surprise piece of tech you had. Congreveopia is meant to be a nation insane enough to invest a large piece of its GDP into ridiculous moonshot programs.

That said, the MAAPS aren't very powerful. Benevolence went down to a couple of MiGs, and you'll find the others will fare about the same if they get into a combat situation. If you want to exchange the equivalent cost in equipment from your military for something of similar usefulness in combat, then I'm sure the coalition would be ecstatic.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

Damn did you guys notice the server down?

[The Selkie]

Damn did you guys notice the server down?

Yep, but it were only the gameside servers, so the forums were unaffected. That's at least, what they want to make us think...

[Ranoria]

Damn did you guys notice the server down?

Yep, but it were only the gameside servers, so the forums were unaffected. That's at least, what they want to make us think...

Actually it happened 30 seconds after I logged in last night. I FINALLY get home, and at first I was like ah hell its telling me my password is wrong
I has been hacked.
But nope, no hacking here.

[The United Remnants of America]

.... "But if a new generation grows up, another nation offers a different alliance, and a new party takes power, Hale Isles could very well break away from Congreveopia." ....

Enter, the Remnant Empire!



*Is really a Grey Jedi, but doubts anyone will question my willingness to bring balance to this situation*

[The Nation of Ceneria]

Sen, would it be bad form for the Stormcry to nail your kilos? Or are they too close to the coast for my sub to be safely cruising?

[New Finnish Republic]

Oi. Sen.

Can your missile defense system intercept supersonic cruise missiles, especially knowing the fact that you're defenses have kind of been scattered at this point?

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Hey sen what happens if I just spam your coastline with missiles.

[Ranoria]

Oi. Sen.

Can your missile defense system intercept supersonic cruise missiles, especially knowing the fact that you're defenses have kind of been scattered at this point?

Qiraibashi's will intercept most of them at least I mean, if you're firing BrahMos II or DF-21D then we have a problem, but my defenses in Qiraibashi will take out most of any attack.'
@ URA keep forgetting to commend you for having Lucina on your flag.

[New Finnish Republic]

Oi. Sen.

Can your missile defense system intercept supersonic cruise missiles, especially knowing the fact that you're defenses have kind of been scattered at this point?

Qiraibashi's will intercept most of them at least I mean, if you're firing BrahMos II or DF-21D then we have a problem, but my defenses in Qiraibashi will take out most of any attack.'
@ URA keep forgetting to commend you for having Lucina on your flag.

My rockets are similar to BrahMos, just a tad slower at 2,800 km/h.

[Ranoria]

Qiraibashi's will intercept most of them at least I mean, if you're firing BrahMos II or DF-21D then we have a problem, but my defenses in Qiraibashi will take out most of any attack.'
@ URA keep forgetting to commend you for having Lucina on your flag.

My rockets are similar to BrahMos, just a tad slower at 2,800 km/h.

Not BrahMos, BrahMos 2. BrahMos are fast but I'll still intercept a majority of them. Brahmos 2 flies at like 8,575 km/h.

[Congreveopia]

My rockets are similar to BrahMos, just a tad slower at 2,800 km/h.

Not BrahMos, BrahMos 2. BrahMos are fast but I'll still intercept a majority of them. Brahmos 2 flies at like 8,575 km/h.

You setting up some sort of Iron Dome system in Qiraibashi? Because I don't think regular SAMs can engage missiles.

Suppose it depends on the SAMs you're using. What SAMs are you using? I don't see any in your ORBAT.

EDIT: You're using the HMMWV Avenger. That fires the Stinger missile. I don't think Stingers can engage incoming missiles, but I haven't done much research.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

So we now have an airbase we can use to launch from right?

[Congreveopia]

So we now have an airbase we can use to launch from right?

Yes, but it's mostly destroyed. When Unrelenting Charity arrives on the 11th, I'll start repairs.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

So we now have an airbase we can use to launch from right?

Yes, but it's mostly destroyed. When Unrelenting Charity arrives on the 11th, I'll start repairs.

Could I land transport aircraft there or is the runway too messed up?

[Ranoria]

Not BrahMos, BrahMos 2. BrahMos are fast but I'll still intercept a majority of them. Brahmos 2 flies at like 8,575 km/h.

You setting up some sort of Iron Dome system in Qiraibashi? Because I don't think regular SAMs can engage missiles.

Suppose it depends on the SAMs you're using. What SAMs are you using? I don't see any in your ORBAT.

EDIT: You're using the HMMWV Avenger. That fires the Stinger missile. I don't think Stingers can engage incoming missiles, but I haven't done much research.

Oh...I though it could...
ABOUT THOSE QIRAIBASHI DEFENSES GUYS.
Alright, in that case, I'd like to ship in some missile defenses via C-130 Hercules if that's aight.
Launchers for ESSM, CN2 Crotale, and Metal Storm Mortars are what C-130s will be carrying into Qiraibashi, along with anti ship Tac Tomahawk missiles for strike capabilities.
Daaaaammmmn iiiiit.
So, I'll post an ORBAT. Inbound via Hercules! I kind of need to defend Qiraibashi, I don't know why I thought I had defenses up. Brain Fart!

[Ranoria]

WOOPS SELF DELETE

[Congreveopia]

Yes, but it's mostly destroyed. When Unrelenting Charity arrives on the 11th, I'll start repairs.

Could I land transport aircraft there or is the runway too messed up?

The runway's fine, but there's no fuel, some of the hangars are gone, there are still fires burning on the ground, the control tower collapsed, the radar's destroyed, and the food's been poisoned.

Fortunately, the pipeline is mostly undamaged and the weather's fine for keeping planes out on the tarmac. Also, I'm probably going to fire the entire airport staff and replace them with Congreveopian technicians.

Fuel is the biggest problem, but Unrelenting Charity can probably fix that shortly after arriving. Until that's done, though, anything you fly in needs to have the fuel to fly back unless it wants to be stuck there.

You setting up some sort of Iron Dome system in Qiraibashi? Because I don't think regular SAMs can engage missiles.

Suppose it depends on the SAMs you're using. What SAMs are you using? I don't see any in your ORBAT.

EDIT: You're using the HMMWV Avenger. That fires the Stinger missile. I don't think Stingers can engage incoming missiles, but I haven't done much research.

Oh...I though it could...
ABOUT THOSE QIRAIBASHI DEFENSES GUYS.
Alright, in that case, I'd like to ship in some missile defenses via C-130 Hercules if that's aight.
Launchers for ESSM, CN2 Crotale, and Metal Storm Mortars are what C-130s will be carrying into Qiraibashi, along with anti ship Tac Tomahawk missiles for strike capabilities.
Daaaaammmmn iiiiit.
So, I'll post an ORBAT with those in the Valasvow's. I'll keep them seperated, as the Hercules will get there first.

Sounds fine. You don't need to ORBAT for airlifts; just make sure you're flying in equipment at a realistic rate for the flight time and number of C-130s you're using. If I were you, I'd stick to the Crotale by the way. ESSM doesn't appear to have a land-based variant, so you'd have to design one.

[Ranoria]

Could I land transport aircraft there or is the runway too messed up?

The runway's fine, but there's no fuel, some of the hangars are gone, there are still fires burning on the ground, the control tower collapsed, the radar's destroyed, and the food's been poisoned.

Fortunately, the pipeline is mostly undamaged and the weather's fine for keeping planes out on the tarmac. Also, I'm probably going to fire the entire airport staff and replace them with Congreveopian technicians.

Fuel is the biggest problem, but Unrelenting Charity can probably fix that shortly after arriving. Until that's done, though, anything you fly in needs to have the fuel to fly back unless it wants to be stuck there.

Oh...I though it could...
ABOUT THOSE QIRAIBASHI DEFENSES GUYS.
Alright, in that case, I'd like to ship in some missile defenses via C-130 Hercules if that's aight.
Launchers for ESSM, CN2 Crotale, and Metal Storm Mortars are what C-130s will be carrying into Qiraibashi, along with anti ship Tac Tomahawk missiles for strike capabilities.
Daaaaammmmn iiiiit.
So, I'll post an ORBAT with those in the Valasvow's. I'll keep them seperated, as the Hercules will get there first.

Sounds fine. You don't need to ORBAT for airlifts; just make sure you're flying in equipment at a realistic rate for the flight time and number of C-130s you're using. If I were you, I'd stick to the Crotale by the way. ESSM doesn't appear to have a land-based variant, so you'd have to design one.

Aight. Thanks for the advice.
at 500 mp/h, these things could get there in about 11 hours. Plus another 7 for loading. So we'll say it arrives on the 10th then. yay.

[Congreveopia]

35 Crotale CN2 Launchers (on trucks)
30 Metal Storm Mortars (Low Caliber, 30 barrels)
20 RIM 162 ESSM with numerous missiles
16 Vehicles carrying S-400 Triumf Launchers
6 Anti-Ship Modded Tactical Tomahawk launchers. (2 additional Crotale CN2 vehicles for each and 1 additional Metal Storm Mortar (low Caliber, 10 barrel) on a truck to defend the launchers)
These will be utilized to set up an air defense ring around Qiraibashi. The Tomahawks will be used to fire at enemy naval vessels from far off.
3 additional C130J Super Hercules will carry ammunition for the weaponry.
ETA-April 11th or 12th

So, this isn't exactly how you do an airlift. It's perfectly fine to post a list of stuff you're trying to move like this here, but you work out the ETA yourself.

For example, say I'm Hale Isles flying engineering vehicles to Kocahisar with three C-17s on loan from Congreveopia.

• I start by figuring out what I'm trying to fly. In this case, the MID Bizon-S military engineering roadlayer, because I'm making a new runway. Let's say I want ten of them.
• Then I look up its weight (and size) and compare that to what the C-17 can carry. In this case, I can just squeeze two of them on each plane.
• Then I figure out the trip time. I know Hale Isles is 14000 kilometers from Kocahisar, and the C-17 flies at 830 km/h, so that's maybe 18 hours with stops to refuel.
• Finally I use that to work out when they'll arrive. The first six will come in on three C-17s 18 hours after they're loaded, and the final four will come in 36 hours after that on two of the C-17s.*

*Actually there's no fuel at Kocahisar, so when the C-17s arrive at first, they'd be stuck, but you get the general idea.

EDIT:

The runway's fine, but there's no fuel, some of the hangars are gone, there are still fires burning on the ground, the control tower collapsed, the radar's destroyed, and the food's been poisoned.

Fortunately, the pipeline is mostly undamaged and the weather's fine for keeping planes out on the tarmac. Also, I'm probably going to fire the entire airport staff and replace them with Congreveopian technicians.

Fuel is the biggest problem, but Unrelenting Charity can probably fix that shortly after arriving. Until that's done, though, anything you fly in needs to have the fuel to fly back unless it wants to be stuck there.


Sounds fine. You don't need to ORBAT for airlifts; just make sure you're flying in equipment at a realistic rate for the flight time and number of C-130s you're using. If I were you, I'd stick to the Crotale by the way. ESSM doesn't appear to have a land-based variant, so you'd have to design one.

Aight. Thanks for the advice.
at 500 mp/h, these things could get there in about 11 hours. Plus another 7 for loading. So we'll say it arrives on the 10th then. yay.

Sounds good, assuming you have the C-130s necessary to fly these in in one lift.

Psst, Coalition nations, I've received intel on a massive flight of C-130s we should intercept.

[Ranoria]

K, if you can intercept them, you can try. Actually you should have the intel to make it more interesting.
But they'll be flying far enough away from your navies to keep from getting shottified down.

[Congreveopia]

So, this isn't exactly how you do an airlift. It's perfectly fine to post a list of stuff you're trying to move like this here, but you work out the ETA yourself.

For example, say I'm Hale Isles flying engineering vehicles to Kocahisar with three C-17s on loan from Congreveopia.

• I start by figuring out what I'm trying to fly. In this case, the MID Bizon-S military engineering roadlayer, because I'm making a new runway. Let's say I want ten of them.
• Then I look up its weight (and size) and compare that to what the C-17 can carry. In this case, I can just squeeze two of them on each plane.
• Then I figure out the trip time. I know Hale Isles is 14000 kilometers from Kocahisar, and the C-17 flies at 830 km/h, so that's maybe 18 hours with stops to refuel.
• Finally I use that to work out when they'll arrive. The first six will come in on three C-17s 18 hours after they're loaded, and the final four will come in 36 hours after that on two of the C-17s.*

*Actually there's no fuel at Kocahisar, so when the C-17s arrive at first, they'd be stuck, but you get the general idea.

I said 11 hours due to distance from Turkey to Richmond, VA. (Thinking that over it's not an air base though) Why split the trip times instead of sending them all at once though? Also... I'd have to consider that I'd need to fly over land to avoid Coalition Naval Forces.

Your time is fine. I was just giving an example of how the process would look. In my example, the airlift is split because I have three airplanes flying ten airplanes worth of cargo. If you have the C-130s avalible to fly it all in one trip, then go right ahead.

[Ranoria]

K, if you can intercept them, you can try. Actually you should have the intel to make it more interesting.
But they'll be flying far enough away from your navies to keep from getting shottified down.

Mainly because while I doubt you would have the intel pre-launch, they're pretty easy to detect.
And time will be about 15 hours because of the roundabout route to avoid being shot down by Coalition Warships.