Benevolence's Vengeance (MT, OOC, Open)

[Legatia]

Was my ORBAT approved?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

If I fire 32 harpoon missiles at the Halian ships, do you think that they would be destroyed?

[Senkaku]

Flying doomsday fortresses?

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

I have area denial ships.... Some call them doomsday ships, but whatever

[Congreveopia]

Does that mean we can bring our own mega doomsday fortresses?

If they're achievable with modern technology, and your ORBAT isn't large enough already.

If I fire 32 harpoon missiles at the Halian ships, do you think that they would be destroyed?

Probably. There's only like three of them left.

EDIT: Commonwealth of the South Pacific, Legatia, Ranoria, Mitheldalond, your ORBATs are approved, and they have been added to the OP.

[Mitheldalond]

Darn it guys, I said to let me shoot at the Soliryns before you took damage from them! Oh well, I'll just shoot down like 7 of them. Four Soliryns should be enough to cause the damage already posted, and maybe a bit more. I can't do anything to stop the cruise missiles from where I am though, so you're on your own for that.

Senkaku, what kind of range do your cruise missiles have? I assume the Soliryns can hit me, but the cruise missiles I'm not sure about.

[Congreveopia]

Darn it guys, I said to let me shoot at the Soliryns before you took damage from them! Oh well, I'll just shoot down like 7 of them. Four Soliryns should be enough to cause the damage already posted, and maybe a bit more. I can't do anything to stop the cruise missiles from where I am though, so you're on your own for that.

Well, they're MIRVs. Depending on when you shoot them down, you might need to shoot down a lot more than seven.

I did remember you wanted to shoot some down, but I also really wanted to post about a hypervelocity kinetic weapons strike, so I decided to only use a few warheads (6, assuming none missed). That's probably less than two of the Soliryns.

[New Finnish Republic]

Sen, I'll ask again. Are you're missiles even capable of intercepting my cruise missiles that have already been launched?

[Mitheldalond]

Darn it guys, I said to let me shoot at the Soliryns before you took damage from them! Oh well, I'll just shoot down like 7 of them. Four Soliryns should be enough to cause the damage already posted, and maybe a bit more. I can't do anything to stop the cruise missiles from where I am though, so you're on your own for that.

Well, they're MIRVs. Depending on when you shoot them down, you might need to shoot down a lot more than seven.

I did remember you wanted to shoot some down, but I also really wanted to post about a hypervelocity kinetic weapons strike, so I decided to only use a few warheads (6, assuming none missed). That's probably less than two of the Soliryns.

Well, you guys are only a few hundred km from the coast, so I'd have a very short window in which to detect, track, and engage the missiles. So while I may have enough SM-3s to shoot down all 11 Soliryns, I don't have enough time to do that. So I figure I'll shoot down 7 in the boost phase, or before they separate. Once the warheads are deployed, the Soliryns are dumping decoys and chaff into the sky too, which will prevent my radar from distinguishing individual targets briefly, and I won't have enough time to deal with the interference before the warheads hit your ships.

So I won't really have a chance to shoot at the MIRV's targeting your fleet anyway.

I'll try to get an IC post about all this up today.

[Congreveopia]

Well, they're MIRVs. Depending on when you shoot them down, you might need to shoot down a lot more than seven.

I did remember you wanted to shoot some down, but I also really wanted to post about a hypervelocity kinetic weapons strike, so I decided to only use a few warheads (6, assuming none missed). That's probably less than two of the Soliryns.

Well, you guys are only a few hundred km from the coast, so I'd have a very short window in which to detect, track, and engage the missiles. So while I may have enough SM-3s to shoot down all 11 Soliryns, I don't have enough time to do that. So I figure I'll shoot down 7 in the boost phase, or before they separate. Once the warheads are deployed, the Soliryns are dumping decoys and chaff into the sky too, which will prevent my radar from distinguishing individual targets briefly, and I won't have enough time to deal with the interference before the warheads hit your ships.

So I won't really have a chance to shoot at the MIRV's targeting your fleet anyway.

I'll try to get an IC post about all this up today.

Sounds good. I'm working on a post for Congreveopia right now. We're going to get a taste of the same style of Congreveopian diplomacy that started this entire mess in the first place.

[Legatia]

Do I have to wait a few days in real time for my fleet, or can I go ahead and post?

[Senkaku]

Well, they're MIRVs. Depending on when you shoot them down, you might need to shoot down a lot more than seven.

I did remember you wanted to shoot some down, but I also really wanted to post about a hypervelocity kinetic weapons strike, so I decided to only use a few warheads (6, assuming none missed). That's probably less than two of the Soliryns.

Well, you guys are only a few hundred km from the coast, so I'd have a very short window in which to detect, track, and engage the missiles. So while I may have enough SM-3s to shoot down all 11 Soliryns, I don't have enough time to do that. So I figure I'll shoot down 7 in the boost phase, or before they separate. Once the warheads are deployed, the Soliryns are dumping decoys and chaff into the sky too, which will prevent my radar from distinguishing individual targets briefly, and I won't have enough time to deal with the interference before the warheads hit your ships.

So I won't really have a chance to shoot at the MIRV's targeting your fleet anyway.

I'll try to get an IC post about all this up today.

I'm sorry, seven, just in boost phase? That is ridiculous. And they're not MIRVs, they're HGVs, which can maneuver and don't just fall on ballistic trajectories.

[Mitheldalond]

Well, you guys are only a few hundred km from the coast, so I'd have a very short window in which to detect, track, and engage the missiles. So while I may have enough SM-3s to shoot down all 11 Soliryns, I don't have enough time to do that. So I figure I'll shoot down 7 in the boost phase, or before they separate. Once the warheads are deployed, the Soliryns are dumping decoys and chaff into the sky too, which will prevent my radar from distinguishing individual targets briefly, and I won't have enough time to deal with the interference before the warheads hit your ships.

So I won't really have a chance to shoot at the MIRV's targeting your fleet anyway.

I'll try to get an IC post about all this up today.

I'm sorry, seven, just in boost phase? That is ridiculous. And they're not MIRVs, they're HGVs, which can maneuver and don't just fall on ballistic trajectories.

From some DoD report, via Wikipedia:
"Since 2002, a total of 19 SM-3 missiles have been fired in 16 different test events resulting in 16 intercepts against threat-representative full-size and more challenging subscale unitary and full-size targets with separating warheads."

That represents about 84% accuracy, meaning I would only have to fire about 8-10 SM-3s to take out 7 missiles.

And yes, they can maneuver, but they only do that in the terminal phase to correct their aim. Unless they have the radar and systems necessary to detect and identify an incoming ABM (which seems unlikely), they aren't going to actually try to dodge it. And they wouldn't be capable of any real evasive maneuvering anyway, since any sharp turns would probably rip the warhead apart at hypersonic speeds.

EDIT: Besides, I seem to be the only one in the coalition fleet with the ability to even engage ballistic missiles, and I've only got 60 SM-3s. I'm going to run out of ABMs well before you run out of Soliryns.

[The United Remnants of America]

I guess I should make a post about how my third unit's made it to Qirabashi, right?

I mean, they should most definitely be there.

.... I should also submit a new OrBat, since the URA would know by now, through backchannels from allied Congreveopia and Gametopia, that their own mercenaries are outnumbered and in need of a little extra support. That's in bounds of realism, right?

[Congreveopia]

I guess I should make a post about how my third unit's made it to Qirabashi, right?

I mean, they should most definitely be there.

.... I should also submit a new OrBat, since the URA would know by now, through backchannels from allied Congreveopia and Gametopia, that their own mercenaries are outnumbered and in need of a little extra support. That's in bounds of realism, right?

All sounds fine, sure.

[Congreveopia]

Following my recent post, let's go over some of the more subtle behind-the-scenes affects of the recent events, to better understand the more complex aspects of this RP:

• Everyone expects that it was Qiraj or one of its allies that bombed Kocahisar. Even though there's no evidence, it fits with their motives too well to be anyone else. As the airbase was not being used for combat purposes, and was attacked in a subterfuge-y terrorist-y manner, this seems unjust. Nations in the coalition with free press gain public opinion in support of the war.
• The coalition (or at least Congreveopia) did not expect Qiraj's hypersonic Soliryns were actually an operational combat weapon. Seeing that it is one, Qiraj is seen as more of a threat by the governments of the coalition nations. The size of a "realistic" deployment goes up for all coalition nations.
• The Hale Isles lost the Fourth Primary Ship Fleet without it even properly entering combat. Public opinion against the war skyrockets in the Hale Isles.
• The Halian fleet was only involved in the war owing to prodding by Congreveopia, and no Congreveopian warships appear to be getting involved yet. Political relations between the Hale Isles and Congreveopia worsen.
• Congreveopia pressures the government controlling Kocahisar to release it to their usage. Anti-Congreveopia sentiment increases greatly in that nation's government and civilian population.

There isn't really a winner or a loser in these events, but they have very important ramifications. For example, I previously had decided that the Hale Isles would deploy the Eighth Roaming Stealth Flotilla if asked. They are no longer willing to do that. Or, as another example, Qiraji intelligence efforts will probably be much easier around Kocahisar Air Base now, because the local population dislikes Congreveopia.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Hey, so my knowledge of missiles and such has ran out. What's a realistic scenario for those missiles headed towards my ships?

[The United Remnants of America]

*Senses a Congreveopia-Hale Isles War RP coming soon*

[Senkaku]

Hey, so my knowledge of missiles and such has ran out. What's a realistic scenario for those missiles headed towards my ships?

*things go kaboom*


Your CIWS will probably take out a bunch of cruise missiles. You'll get buttfucked by the Soliryns that Mith hasn't shot down, but they carry enough HGVs for everyone, I think.

*Senses a Congreveopia-Hale Isles War RP coming soon*

Congreveopia basically uses the Hale Islands to do its dirty work, from what I've seen thus far...

[The GAmeTopians]

Hey, so my knowledge of missiles and such has ran out. What's a realistic scenario for those missiles headed towards my ships?

*things go kaboom*


Your CIWS will probably take out a bunch of cruise missiles. You'll get buttfucked by the Soliryns that Mith hasn't shot down, but they carry enough HGVs for everyone, I think.

*Senses a Congreveopia-Hale Isles War RP coming soon*

Congreveopia basically uses the Hale Islands to do its dirty work, from what I've seen thus far...

Yeah, but I get the sense that Cong and I have enough spies in Hale Isles that we could basically tear apart Hale Isles if it came to that.

And also, not happening, because Cong and I have another RP planned already.

[Senkaku]

If we're employing flying fortresses (which I would honestly rather we not do), I would like to request permission for Qiraj to have some sort of not-as-good-but-still-fuckin'-epic enormous fortress type thing.

[The GAmeTopians]

If we're employing flying fortresses (which I would honestly rather we not do), I would like to request permission for Qiraj to have some sort of not-as-good-but-still-fuckin'-epic enormous fortress type thing.

I think that'll probably end up being a just Congreveopia thing. No one else has the dedication to create a legitimately realistic MT fortress.

[Senkaku]

If we're employing flying fortresses (which I would honestly rather we not do), I would like to request permission for Qiraj to have some sort of not-as-good-but-still-fuckin'-epic enormous fortress type thing.

I think that'll probably end up being a just Congreveopia thing. No one else has the dedication to create a legitimately realistic MT fortress.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Hey, so my knowledge of missiles and such has ran out. What's a realistic scenario for those missiles headed towards my ships?

*things go kaboom*


Your CIWS will probably take out a bunch of cruise missiles. You'll get buttfucked by the Soliryns that Mith hasn't shot down, but they carry enough HGVs for everyone, I think.

*Senses a Congreveopia-Hale Isles War RP coming soon*

Congreveopia basically uses the Hale Islands to do its dirty work, from what I've seen thus far...

HGVs?

[The GAmeTopians]

I think that'll probably end up being a just Congreveopia thing. No one else has the dedication to create a legitimately realistic MT fortress.

I can't see it. An imgur upload would be appreciated.