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Imperial War Planning (TWI Only, OOC, Closed)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Babylatia
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Postby Babylatia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:31 pm

I was think that for Babylatia (I am one of the Imperialists) I would mainly help them by suppling them, but then get into fighting in the war.
The supply line would fail to continuous bombing (and invasion?), and my war machine would soon fail for the same reason.

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Alantania
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Postby Alantania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:32 pm

Will the majority of this war be fought on Argus/East of Argus?
There should be an imperialistic force on the western side that draws in the Mesder area into the war, like a Pearl Habor.

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Havenburgh
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Postby Havenburgh » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:33 pm

Maybe Alan, you were supplying my war machine but stopped, so we did a surprise attack

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:34 pm

Alantania wrote:Will the majority of this war be fought on Argus/East of Argus?
There should be an imperialistic force on the western side that draws in the Mesder area into the war, like a Pearl Habor.

I will ask around if anyone volunteers to do that. Maybe Dubrovka, as the commies would be allied with the imperialists at first. But most of the war will be East of Argus.
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You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:35 pm

Babylatia wrote:I was think that for Babylatia (I am one of the Imperialists) I would mainly help them by suppling them, but then get into fighting in the war.
The supply line would fail to continuous bombing (and invasion?), and my war machine would soon fail for the same reason.

Sounds good.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:39 pm

Since no one has any objections to Stage One, I will begin work on Stage Two.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

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You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Alantania
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Postby Alantania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:40 pm

Miklania wrote:I will ask around if anyone volunteers to do that. Maybe Dubrovka, as the commies would be allied with the imperialists at first. But most of the war will be East of Argus.
Havenburgh wrote:Maybe Alan, you were supplying my war machine but stopped, so we did a surprise attack

I can sorta volenteer for that role, some of the city-states can supply the imperials and the others the allies. Seeing as I'm in central Mesder I could be a launching point for the imperials to maybe launch an attack on Miklania's navy from aiding Shannowin?

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:48 pm

Alantania wrote:
Miklania wrote:I will ask around if anyone volunteers to do that. Maybe Dubrovka, as the commies would be allied with the imperialists at first. But most of the war will be East of Argus.
Havenburgh wrote:Maybe Alan, you were supplying my war machine but stopped, so we did a surprise attack

I can sorta volenteer for that role, some of the city-states can supply the imperials and the others the allies. Seeing as I'm in central Mesder I could be a launching point for the imperials to maybe launch an attack on Miklania's navy from aiding Shannowin?

That might be confusing, and it would help if you made a puppet to help with that. But sure. I was thinking that we (western allies) meet in your capital (of the allied city states), and then get attacked by imperialist sympathizers.
Last edited by Miklania on Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Alantania
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Postby Alantania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:52 pm

That'll work I'll make a puppet.

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Linaviar
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Postby Linaviar » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:54 pm

Miklania wrote:
Alantania wrote:That seems like a good start, so by the end of the first stage Havenburgh will have Linaviar's land and Oglassa will have all the land up to the ID?

Yes.

Two questions.
  1. My Citizen Guard will be in existence by this point, but without the organizational structure that exists today. Could I have them wage a bloody guerrilla campaign against the occupying forces, sort of like the Mujahideen or Việt Cộng?
  2. The prior and current governments have a sort of social engineering that keeps the population desensitized to the idea of gunshot wounds, much like many African peoples were during the scramble (reports of African warriors shrugging off hit's to areas like the upper arms, guts, and chest cavity exist, and are traceable to their lack of contact with firearms and, consequently, their lack of perception of them as all-powerful killing machines). Can I have my people be less-affected than European-descended nations to low-caliber and non-lethal shots?
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:55 pm

Linaviar wrote:
Miklania wrote:Yes.

Two questions.
  1. My Citizen Guard will be in existence by this point, but without the organizational structure that exists today. Could I have them wage a bloody guerrilla campaign against the occupying forces, sort of like the Mujahideen or Việt Cộng?
  2. The prior and current governments have a sort of social engineering that keeps the population desensitized to the idea of gunshot wounds, much like many African peoples were during the scramble (reports of African warriors shrugging off hit's to areas like the upper arms, guts, and chest cavity exist, and are traceable to their lack of contact with firearms and, consequently, their lack of perception of them as all-powerful killing machines). Can I have my people be less-affected than European-descended nations to low-caliber and non-lethal shots?

Sure. To both. Think French resistance.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Linaviar
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Postby Linaviar » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:00 pm

Miklania wrote:
Linaviar wrote:Two questions.
  1. My Citizen Guard will be in existence by this point, but without the organizational structure that exists today. Could I have them wage a bloody guerrilla campaign against the occupying forces, sort of like the Mujahideen or Việt Cộng?
  2. The prior and current governments have a sort of social engineering that keeps the population desensitized to the idea of gunshot wounds, much like many African peoples were during the scramble (reports of African warriors shrugging off hit's to areas like the upper arms, guts, and chest cavity exist, and are traceable to their lack of contact with firearms and, consequently, their lack of perception of them as all-powerful killing machines). Can I have my people be less-affected than European-descended nations to low-caliber and non-lethal shots?

Sure. To both. Think French resistance.

Alright; I'll probably be drawing more on the forces that I mentioned though since my nation is a bit more forest/jungle than towns/cities.
If you want to make a request, either stop by the flag makers thread or send me a TG. All flags that I create are either considered part of the public domain or under a Creative Commons license; as such, I will not create flags that utilize proprietary content.

A repository of my better creations
It's Linavian, not Linaviarian
Former Chief Justice and Proud Member of The Western Isles

Some fitting quotes...
"Despite being the flag master, you have an avant-garde TV test pattern hanging off every pole in the realm." - Miklania

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:01 pm

Linaviar wrote:
Miklania wrote:Sure. To both. Think French resistance.

Alright; I'll probably be drawing more on the forces that I mentioned though since my nation is a bit more forest/jungle than towns/cities.

OK.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Havenburgh » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:19 pm

So I can be 100% sure, what's the plan for me in stage one. And what kicks off the whole war

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:20 pm

STAGE 2: Stalemate
http://i.imgur.com/YymTF1X.png

Black border is the area that the Imperialists control. Blue Dots are nations meeting to discuss events (Future Western Allies).

Babylatia allies themselves with the Imperialists.

Morrowind forces, now reinforced by locals, Shanowinn, and Linaviar troops, begin a counter offensive into the Forza/Havenburgh forces controlled area. Heavy resistance, the advance grinds to a halt.

Morrowind fights and defeats the Forzan navy in a battle off of Dutchland.

Delegates from several Mesder Sea region nations meet in Alantania to discuss the events, and what a suitable response should be. They are attacked by a group of imperialist sympathizers from an Alantanian city state. (name pending)

New Aapelistan, Dubrovka, (and perhaps Communist Greatship), will ally themselves with the Imperialists.
Last edited by Miklania on Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:21 pm

Havenburgh wrote:So I can be 100% sure, what's the plan for me in stage one. And what kicks off the whole war

You invade and defeat Linaviar. Your overly aggressive response to Lin's strongly worded letter.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Havenburgh » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:28 pm

Miklania wrote:
Havenburgh wrote:So I can be 100% sure, what's the plan for me in stage one. And what kicks off the whole war

You invade and defeat Linaviar. Your overly aggressive response to Lin's strongly worded letter.

Alright sounds good

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Postby Oglassa » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:49 pm

Miklania wrote:STAGE 2: Stalemate
http://i.imgur.com/YymTF1X.png

Black border is the area that the Imperialists control. Blue Dots are nations meeting to discuss events (Future Western Allies).

Babylatia allies themselves with the Imperialists.

Morrowind forces, now reinforced by locals, Shanowinn, and Linaviar troops, begin a counter offensive into the Forza/Havenburgh forces controlled area. Heavy resistance, the advance grinds to a halt.

Morrowind fights and defeats the Forzan navy in a battle off of Dutchland.

Delegates from several Mesder Sea region nations meet in Alantania to discuss the events, and what a suitable response should be. They are attacked by a group of imperialist sympathizers from an Alantanian city state. (name pending)

New Aapelistan, Dubrovka, (and perhaps Communist Greatship), will ally themselves with the Imperialists.

Agreed.
It would be a lot harder to believe if my navy was what it is today.
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Postby Peanuta » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:59 pm

Still looking for someone to be my colonial overlord for this time period. The Pacific Peace Union, you are closest. Also, Miklania and Edrani although it could be someone else further away.

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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:07 pm

Peanuta wrote:Still looking for someone to be my colonial overlord for this time period. The Pacific Peace Union, you are closest. Also, Miklania and Edrani although it could be someone else further away.

PPU sounds about right, I am empire neutral, and Edrani is completely anti-imperialist. TG him.
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Alantania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:13 pm

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=alan ... /id=456601
Map of the city-states for that time, I also made a puppet named Alantanian Imperialists for the war.

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Postby Peanuta » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:41 pm

Miklania wrote:
Peanuta wrote:Still looking for someone to be my colonial overlord for this time period. The Pacific Peace Union, you are closest. Also, Miklania and Edrani although it could be someone else further away.

PPU sounds about right, I am empire neutral, and Edrani is completely anti-imperialist. TG him.


PPU was also a colony in 1940, so couldn't colonize me. I'm looking for any country on either side that used to be a colonial power even if they aren't now (colonialism was still mainstream prior to WWII).

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:19 pm

I could be your overlord
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Postby Oglassa » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:33 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:I could be your overlord

polar nu
I totally am for a heck of a lot of things.
Socialist Democracy, LGBT Rights, Pro-Choice, Gender Equality, Racial Equality, Gun Rights
Religious Beliefs
Capitalism, Fascism, Racism, Feminazism, Gun Control
Now for the less about me stuff
World Assembly: Allison Peters
League of TWI: Melanie Quartz
Conventions: Jeanne Callon

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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:37 pm

Oglassa wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:I could be your overlord

polar nu

Why not?
Think like men of action, act like men of thought.
You have the boring tedious prose of a God, my friend. ~ Nights Edge

Worthiness ~ Oglassa

You may address miklania as His Excellency, The Right and Honourable Majestic and Prestigious Supreme Temporary Overlord of the Western Isles, Elected by the Grace of GAWD and Wildelyn in the name of Vancouvia. ~ Wildelyn

Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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