A galaxy not so far away [FT][OOC][OPEN]

by **Spindle** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:35 pm

by **Alahana** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:09 am

Spindle wrote:-snip-

Could you use the measurements we used in the codexes for speed? Just to make it easier

Also if possible could you give me pictures with those ships

by **Spindle** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:21 am

Alahana wrote:
Spindle wrote:-snip-

Could you use the measurements we used in the codexes for speed? Just to make it easier
Also if possible could you give me pictures with those ships

For the speeds, do you mean the type 01-08 FTLs? If so, what's the rough demarcation between them?

And in terms of pictures, I could describe them for you but there isn't anything out there which looks remotely like a Zav'tich ship. The closest I've come is looking a tyranid ships, but they're too organic and lack the plasma tail - and tentacles - of Zav'tich spacecraft. Sorry if that's a pain: it's just the way the Ma'ard are.

by **Alahana** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:28 am

Spindle wrote:
Alahana wrote:Could you use the measurements we used in the codexes for speed? Just to make it easier
Also if possible could you give me pictures with those ships

For the speeds, do you mean the type 01-08 FTLs? If so, what's the rough demarcation between them?

And in terms of pictures, I could describe them for you but there isn't anything out there which looks remotely like a Zav'tich ship. The closest I've come is looking a tyranid ships, but they're too organic and lack the plasma tail - and tentacles - of Zav'tich spacecraft. Sorry if that's a pain: it's just the way the Ma'ard are.

Well didn't really tought about that. I think about x1000 light speed for each higher type?
And alright never mind those pictures then.

by **Spindle** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:35 am

Alahana wrote:
Spindle wrote:For the speeds, do you mean the type 01-08 FTLs? If so, what's the rough demarcation between them?

And in terms of pictures, I could describe them for you but there isn't anything out there which looks remotely like a Zav'tich ship. The closest I've come is looking a tyranid ships, but they're too organic and lack the plasma tail - and tentacles - of Zav'tich spacecraft. Sorry if that's a pain: it's just the way the Ma'ard are.

Well didn't really tought about that. I think about x1000 light speed for each higher type?
And alright never mind those pictures then.

Many thanklings! I'll do descriptions - and explanations - whenever they crop up IC.

And I think I'll have to lower the speed of their out-system FTL. Having Tier 8 right off of the bat feels...wrong. Especially for the Ma'ard.

EDIT: Done! Brought them down to 4.6 and added in the Armoured Frigate.

by **Alahana** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:01 am

Spindle wrote:
Alahana wrote:Well didn't really tought about that. I think about x1000 light speed for each higher type?
And alright never mind those pictures then.

Many thanklings! I'll do descriptions - and explanations - whenever they crop up IC.

And I think I'll have to lower the speed of their out-system FTL. Having Tier 8 right off of the bat feels...wrong. Especially for the Ma'ard.

EDIT: Done! Brought them down to 4.6 and added in the Armoured Frigate.

Well I don't know how fast each progression of type should be. But considering that the galaxy has a diameter of 180,000 lightyears, and the Aegen almost having type 1000 it would still mean they have to travel 22.5 years.

by **Alahana** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:58 am

Just to clarify the way the Aegen communicate:
Aegen send out telepathic messages to their comversation partner(s). They can only send those messages and read them. Untelepathic species cannot send out those messages but can receieve them. To speak to the Aegen they just use spoken language.

Also let's say that everyone understands each other due to an universal translator like star wars

by **Slakonian** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:11 pm

by **Slakonian** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:11 pm

another and final codex post is coming tommorow morning, ETA 9 hours from now.

by **Camila I** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:18 pm

Alahana wrote:Just to clarify the way the Aegen communicate:
Aegen send out telepathic messages to their comversation partner(s). They can only send those messages and read them. Untelepathic species cannot send out those messages but can receieve them. To speak to the Aegen they just use spoken language.

Also let's say that everyone understands each other due to an universal translator like star wars

I'm guessing this is directed primarily at me. I stand by Sayik's explanation of why the implant is necessary - Camilans absolutely cannot receive the messages. How would they? It's not like they have any kind of electroreceptive organ. Maybe if the field produced by your species was really strong, they could feel a tingling sensation, but that's a far cry from understanding what you're saying. Saying that they can receive them without a specialized organ is like saying that a blind species should be able to detect changes in light level. Yeah, maybe if the difference in light level is enough to burn their flesh, but subtle variations would be completely lost on them. Same situation here.

And I know he can't send out the messages. The implant is doing that for him.

I suppose he could speak verbally to you in Maladi, but why would he? You don't speak the language. It would be so much meaningless chirping. Whereas you obviously already understand your own telepathic language, so why should he not simply use that?

by **New Communist and Socialist Unions** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:40 pm

Note: Some may be ice planets, but in a Chos perspective, those are perfect.

by **Alahana** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:25 am

Camila I wrote:
Alahana wrote:Just to clarify the way the Aegen communicate:
Aegen send out telepathic messages to their comversation partner(s). They can only send those messages and read them. Untelepathic species cannot send out those messages but can receieve them. To speak to the Aegen they just use spoken language.

Also let's say that everyone understands each other due to an universal translator like star wars

I'm guessing this is directed primarily at me. I stand by Sayik's explanation of why the implant is necessary - Camilans absolutely cannot receive the messages. How would they? It's not like they have any kind of electroreceptive organ. Maybe if the field produced by your species was really strong, they could feel a tingling sensation, but that's a far cry from understanding what you're saying. Saying that they can receive them without a specialized organ is like saying that a blind species should be able to detect changes in light level. Yeah, maybe if the difference in light level is enough to burn their flesh, but subtle variations would be completely lost on them. Same situation here.

And I know he can't send out the messages. The implant is doing that for him.

I suppose he could speak verbally to you in Maladi, but why would he? You don't speak the language. It would be so much meaningless chirping. Whereas you obviously already understand your own telepathic language, so why should he not simply use that?

Well it doesn't matter that much just rp how you want it it doesn't change to much.
But to answer your questions, it's not true science behind all this so I don't know in what degree it would be possible but they just send out brain waves to your brain (I'm guessing you species has one) or at least something similar to it.
And yes he doesn't have to send those messages as they can talk verbally through some kind of universal translator the Aegen should have given with their technologies so the Aegen can understand your chriping. They can also understand my language and all others that they have talked to so yea.

by **Camila I** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:06 am

Alahana wrote:Well it doesn't matter that much just rp how you want it it doesn't change to much.

Glad you feel that way. The way in which I'd prefer to RP is with as much accuracy as I can manage.

But to answer your questions, it's not true science behind all this so I don't know in what degree it would be possible but they just send out brain waves to your brain (I'm guessing you species has one) or at least something similar to it.

At this point I think we're talking past each other. I know you're sending out electrical signals. Unaugmented Camilans cannot perceive them. You can beam all the signals you want directly at a Camilan's brain, they're going to wash right over without triggering any kind of stimulus whatsoever.

And yes he doesn't have to send those messages as they can talk verbally through some kind of universal translator the Aegen should have given with their technologies so the Aegen can understand your chriping. They can also understand my language and all others that they have talked to so yea.

If you wish to invoke a universal translator in order to communicate with the other guests, I have no problem with that. But I would rather avoid resorting to impossible technologies myself if I can avoid it. In this case, the invocation is avoided easily because Sayik already speaks your language.

by **Alahana** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:09 am

Camila I wrote:
Alahana wrote:Well it doesn't matter that much just rp how you want it it doesn't change to much.

Glad you feel that way. The way in which I'd prefer to RP is with as much accuracy as I can manage.

But to answer your questions, it's not true science behind all this so I don't know in what degree it would be possible but they just send out brain waves to your brain (I'm guessing you species has one) or at least something similar to it.

At this point I think we're talking past each other. I know you're sending out electrical signals. Unaugmented Camilans cannot perceive them. You can beam all the signals you want directly at a Camilan's brain, they're going to wash right over without triggering any kind of stimulus whatsoever.

And yes he doesn't have to send those messages as they can talk verbally through some kind of universal translator the Aegen should have given with their technologies so the Aegen can understand your chriping. They can also understand my language and all others that they have talked to so yea.

If you wish to invoke a universal translator in order to communicate with the other guests, I have no problem with that. But I would rather avoid resorting to impossible technologies myself if I can avoid it. In this case, the invocation is avoided easily because Sayik already speaks your language.

How will you communicate with the others then?

by **Camila I** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:46 am

Well, the hope is that they had enough foresight to send an ambassador who is able to speak the Aegen language too. From the perspective of the Conservancy there is no reason they wouldn't do this if they expected to be understood.

Besides, the purpose of the Truthseeker is to gather intelligence relating to the Outsiders and report back. Even if the only other race that understands Sayik is the Aegen, he will still be able to complete his mission without much difficulty. There was no expectation from the outset that there would be others on the station, and while the possibility may have been tossed around, at the end of the day communicating with other "uplifted" races is of secondary importance at best.

If Sayik finds a desire to communicate with the aliens, I suppose he will have to work something out. But from the standpoint of the people who launched his ship, there is no reason for him to be any more prepared than he is.

by **Alahana** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:16 am

Camila I wrote:Well, the hope is that they had enough foresight to send an ambassador who is able to speak the Aegen language too. From the perspective of the Conservancy there is no reason they wouldn't do this if they expected to be understood.

Besides, the purpose of the Truthseeker is to gather intelligence relating to the Outsiders and report back. Even if the only other race that understands Sayik is the Aegen, he will still be able to complete his mission without much difficulty. There was no expectation from the outset that there would be others on the station, and while the possibility may have been tossed around, at the end of the day communicating with other "uplifted" races is of secondary importance at best.

If Sayik finds a desire to communicate with the aliens, I suppose he will have to work something out. But from the standpoint of the people who launched his ship, there is no reason for him to be any more prepared than he is.

Alright, I'll just see how it turns out in the RP

Just one question though. IC'ly you are now on your way to the med bay, how do you prefer to progress so I know what I should write.

by **New Communist and Socialist Unions** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:34 am

Uh, planerts Al?

by **Camila I** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:18 am

I was thinking you could give a description of the method the Aegen use to destroy malignant tumors, and if necessary, describe what the recovery process would be like.

I guess the most important thing to keep in mind is that, even in an incredibly weakened state, Sayik's exoskeleton will allow him to move and function at a much higher level than an unaided patient could. Without its help, he most certainly would not have been able to leave his ship, let alone make the trek to the med bay by himself. So whatever your treatment is, unless it requires him to be unconscious, he will most likely be able to join the proceedings before he is fully recovered.

Does that answer your question?

by **Alahana** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:37 am

Camila I wrote:I was thinking you could give a description of the method the Aegen use to destroy malignant tumors, and if necessary, describe what the recovery process would be like.

I guess the most important thing to keep in mind is that, even in an incredibly weakened state, Sayik's exoskeleton will allow him to move and function at a much higher level than an unaided patient could. Without its help, he most certainly would not have been able to leave his ship, let alone make the trek to the med bay by himself. So whatever your treatment is, unless it requires him to be unconscious, he will most likely be able to join the proceedings before he is fully recovered.

Does that answer your question?

Well I have no idea how to answer that. You gave some kind of tablet with the instructions on it and the Aegen did it, that's all I know. I do not know how it worked and what the treatment exactly is is up to you. You tell me what it is and I'll make the Aegen do it.

by **Camila I** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:52 am

Oh, gotcha. The injection is only half the treatment - it solves the nutrient deficiency and, given a bit of time, will solve the metabolic issues that are causing the skin peeling and other symptoms. However, as the cancer has progressed past the stage at which programmed cell death could contain it, it will persist and continue to progress until specifically treated.

The tablet has specific instructions for what compounds to inject, since you wouldn't otherwise know, but the instructions regarding the cancer basically amount to "destroy cancer". How the Aegen deal with the disease is up to you, I would think. I assume they are familiar with it?

by **Nazeroth** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:44 pm

wondering if the dark lord should send a ambassador to aegan.

by **Slakonian** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:28 pm

I was about to post yesterday but due to power blackouts I couldn't, good thing is I have the post saved so as soon as able I am on a PC I will post

by **Slakonian** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:08 pm

I was having some thoughts regarding some future plans of the Commonwealth, on the next chapter I wouldn't mind an Outsider force comes and invades Cael(which is a radioactive pile of rubble some sorts) when in the meantime the Commonwealth deals with an insurrection on Dea. How am I going to survive, I will pull out a trump card when my leader hides on his bunker releasing a zombie virus to combat the threat like Sniper Elite:Nazi Zombie Army.

It would be glorious :lol:

by **Alahana** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:20 pm

Slakonian wrote:I was having some thoughts regarding some future plans of the Commonwealth, on the next chapter I wouldn't mind an Outsider force comes and invades Cael(which is a radioactive pile of rubble some sorts) when in the meantime the Commonwealth deals with an insurrection on Dea. How am I going to survive, I will pull out a trump card when my leader hides on his bunker releasing a zombie virus to combat the threat like Sniper Elite:Nazi Zombie Army.

It would be glorious

First contact with the outsiders won't be in the next chapter

I am planning on making the Aegen come clean on some of their secrets that they have been hiding

by **Slakonian** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:32 pm

Alahana wrote:
Slakonian wrote:I was having some thoughts regarding some future plans of the Commonwealth, on the next chapter I wouldn't mind an Outsider force comes and invades Cael(which is a radioactive pile of rubble some sorts) when in the meantime the Commonwealth deals with an insurrection on Dea. How am I going to survive, I will pull out a trump card when my leader hides on his bunker releasing a zombie virus to combat the threat like Sniper Elite:Nazi Zombie Army.

It would be glorious

First contact with the outsiders won't be in the next chapter
I am planning on making the Aegen come clean on some of their secrets that they have been hiding

Oooo that sounds excitingly better

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