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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:32 pm

Sieuwerd Rademaker, junior delegate to Ambassador Hambelton, begins to speak up in her action.

"I would like to open my remarks by making sure the remaining honorable ambassadors are aware that I, as junior delegate to Mrs. Hambelton, shall act in her capacity until she returns or the next relevant recess. While I agree with the idea that some consideration should be made in the regards of the claims of Mr. Nicholas Alexander has to the throne of Aprosians and Džehar, doing so without the knowing consent of the people of New Aapelistan. However, it is becoming clear that some honorable members in this chamber would wish to disguise this kind of legitimate and legal process of the acquisition of the popular consent of the people whose government they plan to usurp with this false 'emperor'" air quoting emperor for effect, "by the means of, what was is Mr. Honorable Ambassador of Belle Ilse en Terre, a health evaluation?"

He flashes a dumbfounded look towards Sir Giles before proceeding, "If we are to seriously consider taking such action against the state of New Aapelistan, then we should at the very least be open about the process with their citizens. Though I will never support this motion, if it can put this debate to rest, I would suggest that a national survey of the Aapelistani people be conducted first, with clear and succinct questions that would ask how satisfied the citizens of New Aapelistan are with their current government, their desire to change it, and if they would accept the reintroduction of their monarchy to achieve such ends. This survey is to be conducted by an organization neutral to both this League and to New Aapelistan to avoid biased answers impacting policy on either side of this issue. Beyond that, I believe that this debate has run its course, if there is nothing else to add from here I would like to call on the President of this Assembly to end this current debate and begin the next topic on our docket."
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:57 pm

Sir Giles, deeply offended by the Stiuran delegate's impropriety, and with warning tone, responded, "I might remind the junior" Sir Giles paused, emphasising the word, and intentionally leaving off the word delegate, "that the appropriate honourific is Sir, not merely mister," the last word being said with disgust and contempt. "A health evaluation, unsurprisingly, is an evaluation of health, whereby, parties observe the health of other parties, perhaps seeking signs of malnourishment, abuse, and symptoms of chemical or nuclear weapons testing. Testing for said symptoms would require close and sequestered contact with loyalists to the Crown, who would have no other way of both preserving their life and expressing their support of their rightful Emperor." As Sir Giles drifted away from the affairs of his honour, he grew more calm and collected, though he would need to privately challenge the young rapscallion for such foolish remarks.

"It is befitting, if naive, indeed unsurprising, that the Stiuran junior delegate, should be so simple as to assume complete honesty, and indeed self-sacrifice of the EUSR entity of New Aapelistan. To believe in the openness of the Godless Communists, especially after their suppression of the Aprosians claiming their Right, is appalling, and the junior should consider restraining further youthful ignorance and impetuosity until the return of Mrs. Hambelton, so as not to cloud the discussion."
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Postby Corindia » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:51 pm

"Decorum, Delegate Giles. I understand you're frustrated, but this is no way to voice it. It doesn't look like your plan has much support, so please, might we able to move on to something else? I'm growing tired of the League's time being wasted."

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Postby Yinhe » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:22 pm

Raymond shifted in his chair and stood up. This discussion was both boring and pointless. He stood up to speak.
"This delegate shares the Corindian delegate's thoughts on the matter. We would also like to point out that the league is not secret. There are media crews here, including media outlets from the EUSR. Your ideas of spying on their citizens and getting pretences are therefore publicly seen in their nation. The league is here to keep peace, not cause political conflicts."

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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:42 am

Corindia wrote:"Decorum, Delegate Giles. I understand you're frustrated, but this is no way to voice it. It doesn't look like your plan has much support, so please, might we able to move on to something else? I'm growing tired of the League's time being wasted."

“I am as well. Perhaps we should give the government of Nicholas the specified week to ready a constitution, whence a small party may land. If the party raises popular support for the monarchy, the League can interevene, if not, the party may escape and try again later.”
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Postby Ainslie » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:51 am

"Apologies if there's been any misunderstanding, delegate, but let me clarify now. We are not running a hire-a-coup service here in the League. We will send impartial observers that aren't traveling monarchy preachers. We do not believe a week is enough to draft a constitution - let alone enough time to factor in the Aprosian element that must be raised here. While I'm at this point, can one of the parties involved raise a resolution for consideration?"

Parkes paused as he carefully chose his words and then resumed speaking.

"Delegates, the sort of discussion which is being raised by these two delegations is extensively one sided and does not represent the impartial and pragmatic nature of the league. What do my fellow delegates think is the appropriate action here?"
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Postby Noronica » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:03 am

Rodger attempted to raise his hands in a calming manner, “I must agree with the Honourable Delegate for Ainslie, this is mere neutral discourse in an attempt to understand why there is such a desire to replace the current government. Noronica is not looking for rebellion or revolution, neither is anyone who has been a part of this conversation. I would gladly speak to the Press of New Aapelistan about sending in League observers as we might for any country that has been the subject of concern for others. Alongside the Ahnslen delegate, I would like to assure the League that this is a mere discussion over a possible investigation into the lives of the Aprosian people.”

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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:41 am

Lady Fairglass shook her head, it was unbelievable how some members treated other members with disrespect, as she looked over to junior member Rademaker.

“My conclusion is that there are some delegates who tend to be in favour of re-installing the rightful ruler of New Aapelistan.”

She looked to Sir Giles.

“However most of them have negative views. It is with great regret to see this, as the League will turn his back again to the people of New Aapelistan who are still being oppressed, indoctrinated and live in a constant state of fear. My government can’t control any moves that will be made by the government of His Majesty Nicholas II, and we do not wish to. I think that’s it for now, my government will consult further with those wishing to support Nicholas II on the further steps he will take. Thank you.”
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:17 pm

Sieuwerd sat in his chair, jointly angered and confused by the statement Sir Giles and Lady Fairglass made. After a quick moment composing his notes, he proceeds. "Seeing as this debate has yet to be concluded, I might as well rejoin as another voice of reason, something both Mr. Giles and Mrs. Fairglass seems to have lacked throughout the course of this entire debate. I cannot even begin to comprehend why any honorable member of this Assembly would even entertain the idea that we should act in any way that would resemble us as an organization more focused to the accomplishment of the agenda of a certain few persons rather than an organization aimed at the preservation of international peace and diplomacy."

Looking in the direction of his Ahnslen counterparts, he continues with a new point, "I am also confused as to the perception the honorable delegate from Great-Imperialonia has on the citizens of New Aapelistan," pausing briefly and turning his head back forwards, "as I do not recall any report from any nation in these Isles indicating the people of New Aapelistan are in any way 'oppressed' or 'indoctrinated' by their present government or that of the EUSR. And if I have anything to say about it, the reason why you might believe they live in 'a constant state of fear' is because several members of this Assembly are actively debating on whether or not to overthrow their government with a man that hasn't ruled since before my father was born and trying to introduce covert methods of doing so under any number of guises because you want another throne to be filled so you can have you base of power in the far east. I am very disappointed by this notion and I wholly believe that this kind of talk is not deserving of any honorable Ambassador in this chamber. Last I checked, New Aapelistan has posed no threat to the stability of the Federal Republic since the foundation of either state nor are we under any belief that they would have any intention to destabilize both Gael and the greater extent of these Isles. I agree with the Honorable Ambassador, Mrs. Hambelton, in saying that this discussion is better left alone so that it might not cause trouble with any new incoming administration, such as in Dormill and Stiura."

He sits back in his chair after the long speech, glancing around and hoping to find support among the other delegates that have already expressed their distaste for this debate.
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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:12 pm

Countess Fairglass decided to ignore the fact that she was called mrs. again, and decided it was done by purpose to provoke her and Sir Giles.

“Perhaps I might offer a piece of advice to the junior delegate, and suggest that the right honourable delegate tries to read the news more often. It seems strange to me that the right honourable delegate believes the people of New Aapelistan live in harmony with their government, as it seems he has missed multiple infringements of the rights of Aprosians by President Nijakov.

Take three weeks ago for example, a number of monarchist protests were oppressed by the government and some protestors were even killed. It seems troubling that a member of the League is defending a government that is coursing in a direction right opposite to the interests and values of the League of the Western Isles.

I would argue it is selfish of the ambassador to simply say this is not a discussion a new government should be confronted with. Not everything is about Dormill and Stiura and I see his statement as a diminishing for, for example, the Aprosians who managed to flee from New Aapelistan and left their lives, family and friends behind, since the ambassador is simply saying the regime “isn’t that bad”. I would, with all due respect, ask him to distance himself from that.”
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:27 pm

Father Gerard, a kind old man only sent to the League to appease the Duke of Belle Ile, and the Cathloics of the Ilse, though he was of questionable reliability, and was attached to rumours of heresies and apostasies. But he was of venerable age, and, not being a radical, that is zealously Catholic, he was sent to act as a replacement should the other League delegates be suddenly incapacitated.

He had watched the proceedings with a detached interest, and pitied both Sir Giles and young Sieuward, an unfortunate name by virtue of its similarity to Siward the younger, who died a warriors death in an old tale. He now noticed Giles’ state of agitation, and observed him stand, walk over to Sieuward, and glare at him, depositing a worn glove forcefully in Sieuward’s lap. He observed Sir Giles leave, and a servant (in Gilesian livery) deposit a note with the Stiuran delegate.

As Edmond, the other delegate, seemed to be put out, Gerard spoke up, “The words of the Imperialonian delegate seem wise, for the government of New Aapelistan is unjust, and we have a rare chance to allow the people to believe what they wish. Perhaps some of us,” he winked kindly at the Stiuran delegate, “our own delegate included, are consumed by evil passions, and wish to impede that progress, but maybe the rest of us may find a solution?”
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:46 pm

The Dormill-Stiuraian Junior Delegate sat there, nearly agape following the slap, but with an amount of composure necessary, or at least to the extent he has learned from Ambassador Hambelton to continue, "So you are suggesting I should trust the words of spies over the Aprosian people? And let us assume in this case that a sizable minority of Aprosian people actively support the return of their long since dead monarchy, what of the majority? What of the people who honestly and truly support the current state? Should they be cast aside in the name of the political aims of your nation, since you presume that not everything is about Dormill and Stiura either? You also seem to make the mistake I am defending the Aapelistani Government, where I believe that I am defending the people when I say that these kinds of actions are far and away from what the League should be doing and what the League is even allowed to do in such a situation. Nor will I retract my statements from earlier as unlike you, who somehow believes to be paranoid about a union that has formed from very similar political ideologies while we have the Cooperative Union, whose own Treaty has the proviso in the preamble that 'states of democratic orientation only ' may join."

He rubs his flushed cheek before continuing again, "It rather sounds like that some honorable members" , glaring back at Gerard for a moment, "Would rather disregard the will of the people in the pursuit of their own gains than think through this situation rationally and carefully. And if that is the case, then it is my opinion that neither I nor my nation are welcomed to this League."

He stands one last time, still hoping another delegate will come to his side before turning with the secretary, and leaving the hall with the intent of returning to the Dormill-Stiuraian building in the city to await whatever happens next, dropping the worn glove in the wastebin as he walks out.
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:05 pm

Gerard was vexed by the glare, but did not judge. "I think it is more clear now than ever, that the League must send a delegation, to 'determine the will of the people'." The phrase stumbled out of his mouth, being never uttered before by him.

"The Honourable Stiruan delegate has raised a point of great import, which is the possibility that some will wish to abide in the current government. A partition, would seem best, if workable, but civil wars, which this shall likely amount to, are seldom resolved so easily. But let us first discover the feelings of the locality, and divine a course of action from that."
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Postby Verdon » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:11 pm

"I would not trust solely the words of spies as Mr. Sieuwerd has mentionted, nor would I trust any official statement from New Aapelistan. Furthermore, since it is unlikely that a delegation would be accepted from the league, nor is there any onus for New Aapelistan to do so, no viable information can be obtained from the situation.

"Since the expulsion of New Aapelistan from the League, we have focused on a policy of containment and isolation. I see no reason to deviate from this path. Interventionism would only deteriorate regional stability."

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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:18 pm

"Indeed... perhaps putting it off would be best... a war would do little good."
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Postby Corindia » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:"Indeed... perhaps putting it off would be best... a war would do little good."

"Especially after the last one. Obviously it was not directed at deposing the government, but still something you should consider."

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Postby Corindia » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:50 pm

Verdon wrote:"I would not trust solely the words of spies as Mr. Sieuwerd has mentionted, nor would I trust any official statement from New Aapelistan. Furthermore, since it is unlikely that a delegation would be accepted from the league, nor is there any onus for New Aapelistan to do so, no viable information can be obtained from the situation.

"Since the expulsion of New Aapelistan from the League, we have focused on a policy of containment and isolation. I see no reason to deviate from this path. Interventionism would only deteriorate regional stability."

"Indeed. I see no reason to act simply to act, especially when it's not even clear what acting would gain."

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Postby Verona Beach » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:08 am

Spencer maintained an air of calm externally, but internally he was laughing- partly out of shock that a delegate had slapped someone, and partly out of amusement that someone in the 21st century would threaten a duel.

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Corindia wrote:"Indeed. I see no reason to act simply to act, especially when it's not even clear what acting would gain."

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Postby Noronica » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:25 am

Rodger, concerned at the conduct that had been displayed decided to move the topic on, especially since he had seen someone he did not wish to see in the gallery. It was a simple-looking tourist, their clothes hastily-done, but their smile was entirely fake and there was an air of professionalism around the tourist, their build suggesting something other than a tourist. Also, their eyes kept fixing with Rodger's, the smile dropping by just an inch. He had something he needed to bring up.

"Honourable Delegates, if I could usurp this confusion to bring about another matter? It is clear that this situation has been taken out-of-proportion and I sincerely hope it calms down significantly. Now, if you recall, we authorised the sending of a team of League investigators into the Charbagnian Federation to understand the situation on Weapons of Mass Destruction. We are now several weeks after, and the situation has worsened. The team of investigators have been arrested on charges that Noronica feels are false, on top of this, the investigators managed to submit images of what appears to be a stockpile of modern WMD's. This is not merely chemical weapons that we are dealing with, but there has been evidence to suggest that we are dealing with all three types, chemical, biological, and nuclear weaponry. Seismic reports on the island by Noronnican intelligence are now suggesting that the country is undergoing explosive tests of mass proportions, this is what we believe to be Charbagnia's nuclear test programme." He paused, gauging reactions, "What would my honourable colleagues say to this?"

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Postby Corindia » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:44 am

Noronica wrote:Rodger, concerned at the conduct that had been displayed decided to move the topic on, especially since he had seen someone he did not wish to see in the gallery. It was a simple-looking tourist, their clothes hastily-done, but their smile was entirely fake and there was an air of professionalism around the tourist, their build suggesting something other than a tourist. Also, their eyes kept fixing with Rodger's, the smile dropping by just an inch. He had something he needed to bring up.

"Honourable Delegates, if I could usurp this confusion to bring about another matter? It is clear that this situation has been taken out-of-proportion and I sincerely hope it calms down significantly. Now, if you recall, we authorised the sending of a team of League investigators into the Charbagnian Federation to understand the situation on Weapons of Mass Destruction. We are now several weeks after, and the situation has worsened. The team of investigators have been arrested on charges that Noronica feels are false, on top of this, the investigators managed to submit images of what appears to be a stockpile of modern WMD's. This is not merely chemical weapons that we are dealing with, but there has been evidence to suggest that we are dealing with all three types, chemical, biological, and nuclear weaponry. Seismic reports on the island by Noronnican intelligence are now suggesting that the country is undergoing explosive tests of mass proportions, this is what we believe to be Charbagnia's nuclear test programme." He paused, gauging reactions, "What would my honourable colleagues say to this?"

"It's only appropriate that we secure the immediate disarmament of Charbagnia. They've proven they're no longer just a danger to themselves but to other nations as well."

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Postby Verdon » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:34 am

"Regardless of our direct actions, it seems we should be bracing for another humanitarian crisis."

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Postby Atnaia » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:58 am

Barburj raised an eyebrow. "How, might I ask, has Charbagnia threatened anyone? The investigators, from the information Atnaia received, breached several statutes of procedure. In addition, while their ownership of nuclear weapons is likely, the rest is conjecture. Furthermore, ownership of nuclear weapons is not a crime. Elsewise, many nations in this very League would have to have action directed at them."
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Postby Verdon » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Atnaia wrote:Barburj raised an eyebrow. "How, might I ask, has Charbagnia threatened anyone? The investigators, from the information Atnaia received, breached several statutes of procedure. In addition, while their ownership of nuclear weapons is likely, the rest is conjecture. Furthermore, ownership of nuclear weapons is not a crime. Elsewise, many nations in this very League would have to have action directed at them."

"Perhaps it is different in Atnaia, but in Verdon, We do not take kindly to the unjust imprisonment of our citizens."

He paused.

"Ah now that I think of it, I suppose Atnaia is different in that regard."

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:01 pm

Stephanie briefly noted the subtle remark passed between the Verdonian and Atnaian delegates and turned towards the Noronican delegate, "While this is certainly shocking news, and the news of the WMDs in particular, we should focus on this one step at a time. First and foremost we need to secure the release of these League investigators back to the League. It might be best to send a delegation to Charbagnia to discuss the situation with the government there."
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:18 pm

Edmond spoke, “Might it be better to meet Charbagnia’s government on international soil, for reasons of safety and policy? If they arrested League representatives, it is unlikely they will respect the sanctity of an official negotiating party. It would probably not be amiss to make a show of force as well, wherever we may choose to meet them.”
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