[IC] [TWI-Only] The League of TWI (Assembly)

[Queste]

Looking back to the Major next to her with a bright smile she would speak back. "I am pleasantly surprised. You must be the representative from Queste then. No?" With a slight snicker she would look back towards the center of the room. "Even though it may seem chaotic it's what we are taught to do. Someone has to make sure that dialogue is kept and I suppose that would be us."

"Yes," she replied casually, smiling at the delegate. "I suppose so. I am Sarah Yulia, it is nice to meet you. You are from Balnik? I'm afraid I have not been caught up completely with new events in the world today, but you are a Federation now, yes? I was taught in the Republic that Balnik was a Socialist country, but no more?"

[Balnik]

"Yes," she replied casually, smiling at the delegate. "I suppose so. I am Sarah Yulia, it is nice to meet you. You are from Balnik? I'm afraid I have not been caught up completely with new events in the world today, but you are a Federation now, yes? I was taught in the Republic that Balnik was a Socialist country, but no more?"

"Likewise." Looking at her papers the back at Sarah. "Well I suppose that would be partially true. Balnik has always been some sort of socialist ever since the collapse of the old monarchy. It would honestly just be on what side of the spectrum. The communists were more extreme with their policies but less nationalist than the current leadership. The Nacionalna socijalistička partija Balnika now controls all affairs all matters and affaris now. The country was separated into provinces to make the process of keeping the peace and monitoring the rural areas more streamlined, giving some autonomy and thus making the country into a Federation. Democracy has never existed in Balnik however." She would affirm with a strong nod as she turns towards other speakers.

[Verdon]

Sir Giles smiled,“I too, shall be plain with you. The Bhikkustani Khangate violates that definition too, yet here it is, residing in these hallowed halls, which the Emporer has so politely refrained from asking, thus burdening us less than the Khangate. While your definition is not unreasonable, it is most unreasonable to impose your definition on the League, and, more importantly, to establish a foundation for the Stabilisation of the East.”

"Our standard is not unique to us, dear delegate. The Veronite government has also made no statement regarding Bhikkustan at the moment on which government is legitimate. Thank you for your concern, but Verona Beach is not in a position to impose most anything in a body formed for cooperation above all else." Spencer nodded.

Except, as a member of the League, you're obliged to follow League Resolutions. Resolution 4 recognizes the exiled government of Bhikkustan as the legitimate government.

[Covonant]

"And Covonant ask the delegates of the league to denounce the EUSR and follow Covonant in recognizing Nicholas Alexander as the rightful heir" Expressed Ashur Baptiste

[Ainslie]

"I am truly surprised that the delegation from Covonant, a moralistic and values driven nation, is supporting a monarchy that's 'ensuring a democratic government in the future'. If we have learnt anything, it is that we need concrete evidence that democracy will happen. We'd rather not create a nation stuck in the 17th Century that we have to write another resolution about down the track to try and implement a nation that aligns with internationally held values. We want word that this will happen now. This is a serious situation, and we can't just automatically jump to the most advantageous scenario right now when we could create so much better outcomes for the Aprosian people."

[Great-Imperialonia]

"I am truly surprised that the delegation from Covonant, a moralistic and values driven nation, is supporting a monarchy that's 'ensuring a democratic government in the future'. If we have learnt anything, it is that we need concrete evidence that democracy will happen. We'd rather not create a nation stuck in the 17th Century that we have to write another resolution about down the track to try and implement a nation that aligns with internationally held values. We want word that this will happen now. This is a serious situation, and we can't just automatically jump to the most advantageous scenario right now when we could create so much better outcomes for the Aprosian people."

“Then name them excellency” Fairglass said to him

“Nicholas II has already formed his democratic government and is busy with the installation of a temporally appointed Congress to check the government. He enjoys support of the Aprosian people, they love him and respect him. Emperor Nicholas II is our solution, and a strong solution. You can talk about other solutions, but frankly, there are no other solutions right now and the people of New Aapelistan have already suffered to much on the hands of the CPNA. Time to end this right now.”

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

“A monarchy would at least be grateful to the League for its existence; we have no such leverage against New Aapelistan. Monarchies also provide a certain stability not easily obtained in other forms of governing. I may also remind the Ahnslen delegate that monarchies have a history of mainting the status quo; they are seldom regionam threats, and they are often good, stable neighbours. New Aapelistan is currently committed to destroying us, a source of chaos, and will make is all communist,” here Giles shuddered slightly, “if we let it.”

[Corindia]

“A monarchy would at least be grateful to the League for its existence; we have no such leverage against New Aapelistan. Monarchies also provide a certain stability not easily obtained in other forms of governing. I may also remind the Ahnslen delegate that monarchies have a history of mainting the status quo; they are seldom regionam threats, and they are often good, stable neighbours. New Aapelistan is currently committed to destroying us, a source of chaos, and will make is all communist,” here Giles shuddered slightly, “if we let it.”

"If monarchies are so good at maintaining the status quo then why isn't Corindia still a monarchy?"

[Dormill and Stiura]

Hambelton sat in the Assembly Hall, rather miffed at the suggestion and unironic debate that the sitting government of New Aapelistan shall be considered illegitimate in the face of some emperor on the other end of the Southern Sea. However, her role as Dormill and Stiura's ambassador to the League and the need to remain on good terms with the Mesder Bloc of nations sitting there makes her task of upholding her nations values in these halls difficult, at best. Regardless, she sits up and begins to make her case.

"I first want to air my own grievance against the honorable delegate from Belle Ilse en Terre, whom presumes that Monarchies are more capable stabilizing forces than 'other forms of governments'. I vehemently disagree with this notion, as the honorable delegate from Corindia also mentioned, as monarchies in an age where the common man can know more than his father and his father's father are more often a target for the disenfranchised wishing to control both their own destinies and those of the greater nation they are a part of. While I do not agree with the adoption of socialist models of economics in the current Eastern Union of Socialist Republics or the governments of New Aapelistan and Bhikkustan, its mere presence, alongside nearly all democratic nations present today are a result of those same conditions I mentioned earlier."

She pauses a moment, taking in the various reactions from other members before continuing.

"Although I and my government are bound to recognize the Khangnate of Bhikkustan per Resolution 4, and additionally to withhold recognition to the EUSR per Resolution 2; I cannot sit idly by as those nations whom were critically involved in the Second Imperial War continue to advocate for the reintroduction of a government that has not held power for decades as if they have any power to determine the well-being of the people of either New Aapelistan or Bhikkustan! It is an affront to the very charter of this institution and everything it is supposed to stand for!"

Hambelton again pauses, catching her breath.

"While you all endlessly debate whether or not to stamp out the self-determination of these peoples, the Federal Republic of Dormill and Stiura shall make whatever efforts it deems necessary to ensure true stability in the East. I hope you can all come to your senses and drop this petty issue once and for all, so that my successor doesn't have to hear this dribble."

She stands up, face red with anger. Turning her back to everybody but her aides, she leaves the hall in a fury.

[Noronica]

“Madam,” Rodger began, his face betraying that of annoyance, “I must remind you that as a national ambassador, it is wise not to succumb to one’s emotions. This ‘dribble’ is the same dribble that the Federal Republic of Dormill and Stiura joined for. Discussion and discourse is the only manner in which we may come to agreements. Resolutions, trade agreements, bills, even a shopping list, must have a draft form. This is our ‘draft’ for what our international policies should be. A draft cannot be written impeccably at first, first it must allow for the errors, the mistakes, the dribble. Once all is said and done, we shall have a clear mind as to what we should vote for, so please, might I ask that you maintain your faith in democracy and allow its course in these halls? We have had members walk out before and it is frustrating for their people as they see their national ambassador turn away from the face of opposition rather than face it and move on.” Rodger turned to the room, “This should be extended to everyone. We cannot afford to end discussion like this as it promotes the ceasing of discourse and the introduction of violent passion. I myself was disappointed with the Noronnican proposal over aid, yet I accepted the outcome and moved on. Let the Isles see a strong League, not one wallowing in discontent.”

Rodger, taking several breaths after his own passionate speech, spoke again, “Might I also remind the League that this is no place to denounce or promote certain democratic political systems. I thought that this debate was over whether we should approve the implementation of a new political system, not a debate over whether Republics are more democratic than Monarchies. That argument, I find to be taxing and irrelevant. There is a reason for a Constitution to ensure both styles of ruling maintains democracy. Let us throw away our grievances and personal feelings over political systems and look deeper into the matter at hand,” he turned towards Fairglass, “should we assume that there is no written Constitution to replace the current regime’s? This, I find to be troubling as we would be allowing the introduction of an unconstitutional nation. Who would write it? One might expect this new monarch to do it, but why should he? He is not obliged to do so. No! He may choose whether to make one or not, instead creating yet another autocratic nation. If the nations of this organisation do it, we undermine the will of the people.”

Rodger spoke to the room at large again, “The way I see it is this, there has been no move to revolution or any discontent shown by the supposedly discontent people. How on earth are we to force in a Government without the people’s support? While they may not want to be in their current regime, they may be repulsed by the idea of a monarchy, and I suggest we do not attempt to force something upon them, lest we be known as the organisation that subdues the wishes of the people. While Noronica would maintain the position that New Aapelistan does not have a favourable Government and we would wish to encourage immediate reform and the end of EUSR-aggression, we are in no place to force a change in Government at this moment in time. Once evidence is presented to me and my colleagues that the people of New Aapelistan are genuinely tired of their rule, I might reconsider.”

[Great-Imperialonia]

Lady Fairglass looked to ambassador Hambleton whilst she walked out of the hall.

“Quite extraordinary” she told her deputy Storm, and she looked over to ambassador Roger:

“Your excellency, first let me thank you for your words, I can firmly second the first part.

The right honourable delegate from Noronica has raised a very important issue. The constitution of the government in-exile. At the moment a constitution is in the proces of writing under the supervision of a independent committee convened by the Privy Council and a Minister of Consitutional Affairs has been appointed by First Minister Aristov and His Majesty Emperor Nicholas II. Once the first draft is ready, the temporarily appointed Congress will debate the concept and amend it if necessary. Drafting a constitution takes time, but is of the utmost importance. The proces is currently underway and we think it will be ready in about 1 week from now.”

[Ainslie]

Parkes was visibly going more red whilst listening to the Ilsean delegate's comments. He spoke quickly as he explained "So, where's the democracy in Belle Ilse en Terre? Why has this "natural" transition from monarchies to democracies not happened in your nation? With all due respect, your nation is a perfect case study for why we should not let a monarch and his so called cabinet run New Aapelistan. If we are so concerned with installing a new government in New Aapelistan, why don't we at least see what Aprosians think of it? This has all the indicators of a failed state in the making. And to the Noronnican delegate, our responsibility here in the league is to uphold human rights and care for the people of this world. It is our duty to protect those who may be vulnerable and to protect the full rights of people who find themselves under our jurisdictions. This is not a matter of whether democracies or monarchies are better, but rather which one can better deliver the values and beliefs that we hold so dear. This is where a democracy stands strong. Of course, it may not have to be a conventional one, not all nations run their democracies the same way - take Ainslie and Covonant as examples of that. The overall fact is that they nevertheless protect the rights of their constituents better than whatever medieval solutions we want to bring up."

Parkes' intense gaze then transitions to a professional, perhaps bureaucratic, read of the papers below him.

[Noronica]

Rodger pinched the bridge of his nose, as someone who did not subscribe to the Republic magazine of Noronica, he was a staunch monarchist and he did not appreciate a monarchy being contrasted with a democracy. To him, they could be one and the same alongside a republic, “Honourable delegate, I am truly glad to see that our feelings are aligned in that we should listen to the people in this debate. I am also glad that there is some scepticism over this new Government and whether measures will be put in place. However, I am saddened that you have to drag in the debate over monarchies. A republic is not the sole definition of a democracy as there are many ways to achieve democracy. A republic may fall into autocracy as easily as a monarchy, and all that stands in the way of this is a constitution. Noronica has had a monarchy for its long life other than its brief republican period in which terrible atrocities were committed. It was our current monarch that rebuilt the country’s democracy and its constitution and now Noronica is able to promote a better democratic system. You said it yourself, not all nations run their democracies the same way. So, delegate, we should not have an argument over republic and monarchies, rather, as I stressed before, look into the machinery behind this new Government. The constitution gives power to the President or the Monarch, so that is what we should look at.”

Rodger turned to Fairglass, “I am glad that there are efforts being made to construct this new constitution. While I am still unsure about this situation and the credibility behind this Government, I would be glad to see this document alongside my colleagues here.”

[Ainslie]

"We support a constitution, but this must come from the involvement of the Aprosian people, not some high minded monarch and his cabinet that's been away from his people for many years. I suggest we extend a line of communication to the Aprosian people, or alternatively, send league observers into New Aapelistan."

[Noronica]

Rodger smiled, progress. He spoke again, "Now that, that is a good idea that I would support. I feel that doing the latter may benefit us more with a neutral observation. Would my other honourable colleagues agree?"

[Verdon]

Rodger smiled, progress. He spoke again, "Now that, that is a good idea that I would support. I feel that doing the latter may benefit us more with a neutral observation. Would my other honourable colleagues agree?"

"Absolutely not. This debate has gone far beyond the scope of its original subject matter. We were to discuss as to whether the league would recognize a claim on former New Aapelistan and, unless I've read the room incorrectly, this does not have popular support. Having the EUSR accept League observers is unlikely. I see no reason to waste more time or resources on this subject.:

[Great-Imperialonia]

"We support a constitution, but this must come from the involvement of the Aprosian people, not some high minded monarch and his cabinet that's been away from his people for many years. I suggest we extend a line of communication to the Aprosian people, or alternatively, send league observers into New Aapelistan."

“I’m not quite sure -Fairglass said- it depends if it is possible to send them into New Aapelistan. If so, we would second if that is what it takes to convince you of the support Nicholas has among the people.”

[Ainslie]

"We support a constitution, but this must come from the involvement of the Aprosian people, not some high minded monarch and his cabinet that's been away from his people for many years. I suggest we extend a line of communication to the Aprosian people, or alternatively, send league observers into New Aapelistan."

“I’m not quite sure -Fairglass said- it depends if it is possible to send them into New Aapelistan. If so, we would second if that is what it takes to convince you of the support Nicholas has among the people.”

"We could get the assurance of safe passage by the current government. I suggest we send a contingent with observers from local nations in order to reduce the suspicion connected to this operation."

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

“We must also then find a pretext for such observations. I think a general health evaluation would be ideal for getting close to the Aprosians,” suggested Sir Giles.

[Corindia]

Américo shook his head in disbelief.
"You understand that these proceedings are not private, correct?"

[Great-Imperialonia]

“The problem is that my government seriously doubts the government will give access, and if so, show the whole truth instead of citizens who are completely drilled and good communists. We doubt the League will get acces to the monarchist coastline.”

[Corindia]

"Would you blame them for denying access? Your co-conspirator literally just brought up the possibility of an illicit and illegal investigation under the guise of a health evaluation. This is pathetic, and beneath the League."

[Miklania]

"Perhaps it would be better for you to conspire behind closed doors?"

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

“Are my fellow delegates suggesting that the League not use every means made available to help the downtrodden?” questioned Sir Giles, vexed at the condescending responses to, as it seemed to him, a not only reasonable but even ideal solution.

[Verdon]

"We are saying these are not the correct steps to take"