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Vancouvia
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Founded: Sep 19, 2014
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Postby Vancouvia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:41 pm

"Vancouvia adamantly must argue that the Deputy Secretary-General be elected from the population of delegates' nations, not appointed by the Secretary-General."
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Corindia
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:07 pm

"Agreed, we would be wise to check such drifts of power towards a centralized executive role."

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Almorea
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 181
Founded: May 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Almorea » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am

"Almorea supports the amended resolution as is, notwithstanding the objection raised by some of the honorable delegates. It is important that a deputy Secretary-General be someone who enjoys a good working relationship with the Secretary-General."

Zava pulled at his collar. "For this reason, an appointment system makes sense. Perhaps, to calm some of the concerns raised, the appointment of the deputy Secretary-General could be subject to confirmation by delegates?"
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Vancouvia
Minister
 
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Founded: Sep 19, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Vancouvia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:26 am

"Vancouvia is a democratic republic and thus we support the merit of democratic republics - we will not abide by our elected leader choosing his or her successor by personal whim, even if it is checked by a confirmation process."

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Aizcona
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 156
Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:35 am

“This is not Vancouvia is it? No this is the League. The deputy Secretary General will only serve in in the capacity of Secretary General when needed and in extreme circumstances until another election can be held. A good working relationship is a must.”
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Vancouvia
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Founded: Sep 19, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Vancouvia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:18 pm

"Delegate, this is an open forum, and I, as a representative for my countrymen, have as much a right as any of you to share my nation's values and advocate for them. The Deputy must be freely elected."

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Almorea
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Founded: May 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Almorea » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:51 pm

“Vancouvia seems extremely anxious to ensure an elected deputy. Perhaps it sees Mr. Rochester in this position?”
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Nezaeva
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 20
Founded: Oct 10, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Nezaeva » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:21 am

Maoilios stared down at a simple message from his government. Although the contents were hidden, the arched eyebrow of the blonde man did at the very least express some surprise.
"The...People's Council of Nezaeva finds itself in agreement with the Vancouvian position. This position should be elected rather than appointed. My great nation would also be more comfortable with the model presented by the delegate from Almorea as a compromise if needs be."
Maoilios opened his mouth to say more, but instead slammed it shut and sat back down, frowning, contemplating.

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Vancouvia
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Founded: Sep 19, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Vancouvia » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:15 pm

"Thank you for your thoughts, Maoilios," called out Augustia, barely keeping herself from wiping the sweat from her brow.

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Corindia
Minister
 
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:20 pm

"A quick question, is this deputy going to serve the rest of the Secretary General's term or merely lead the organization until the next
election can be held in an expedited manner, after which they may or may not opt to accept a nomination?"

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Aizcona
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Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:24 pm

"I am envisioning that they serve only until the next election concludes, which will be triggered immediately upon the loss of the Secretary-General. As such I see no reason for us to waste time and energy electing one that may not work well with the more important position, the Secretary General."
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"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Corindia
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:33 pm

"That begs further questions; do they need to "work well" with the Secretary General? I was not aware of them having any additional power or responsibility before the untimely event in which they become the Secretary General, if only until the next election."

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Aizcona
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Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:45 pm

"That is a good point. No I guess they don't. Although I still feel it is unnecessary to make an election of a position that will be of little note."
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"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Ainslie
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Founded: Jun 15, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ainslie » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:14 pm

Jesse returned his place in the chamber after a quick meeting near the cafe. His aide quickly filled him in and then five minutes later the delegate spoke up.

"If we are following from this logic, are we looking for a Deputy Secretary-General or a Caretaker? If it is more of a caretaker role, does this need to be a temporary position, or can a more permanent person be voted in who has an indefinite term until they resign from the post. After the resignation, an election for this role could be performed?"
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Aizcona
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Founded: Aug 28, 2019
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Postby Aizcona » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:46 am

“Sure that would be fine, as long as their only duty is to be Secretary General in case of loss of the current one prior to election. We do need to get this done.”

Resolution 17: Secretary-General Elections
The Assembly of the League of the Western Isles

IN ACCORDANCE with the League’s commitment to equality and democratic values,
OBSERVING the lack of a Secretary-General due to sudden resignation; and in
NOTING the pressing need for a Secretary-General of the League of The Western Isles to be elected,

Hereby:
1. Immediately triggers an election process for the position of Secretary-General within the League of The Western Isles, with voting to be held seven days after the passing of this resolution.
2. Permits and encourages any member nation of the League to make known to the chamber its endorsement or nomination of a candidate for the position of Secretary-General
3. Officially amends Article 4 of the New Charter of the League to stipulate that the maximum length between two elections is to be eight months, with a term limit of three terms (24 months).
4. Adds a Deputy Secretary-General to be elected by the member nations of the League that will act as a temporary Secretary-General if one is needed. Their term will be indefinite until they themselves resign and a new election is held. They are no have no supplemental duties.
5. In the case of elections, if no candidate gets more than a simple majority, the election process shall be reheld.

Introduced by Aizcona on 11/12/19


“Here is the new amended resolution. I hope this will suit everyone better.”
President of The Western Isles

"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Corindia
Minister
 
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:26 am

"Not to slow down the election process, but I do think it might be prudent to address the time in between the accession of the Deputy Secretary General and the ensuing election they will administer. Perhaps a mandatory maximum period of two weeks, or less perhaps, may pass between them becoming Secretary General and the next election? Additionally, why is their term indefinite? And are they barred from running in the election they themselves oversee? I suggest splitting this resolution into two so that we can keep the election moving along without rushing any decisions on the Deputy role."

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Aizcona
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 156
Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:23 am

“I would be extremely amenable to that. I would only need the consent of the Vancouvia delegate, who seems to be the biggest proponent of the deputations SG position to split the resolution. Aizcona just wishes to get this election done with in a timely fashion. Even willing to compromise on items like this deputy SG.”
President of The Western Isles

"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Nhoor
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 198
Founded: Dec 08, 2018
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Nhoor » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:30 am

Nhoor delegate Zamha Pwqceraqh played with his pen. "The Corindian delegate makes an excellent point about the time between the accession of the Deputy Secretary General and the election; also because it will cost time to organise an election for a new Secretary General. Candidates must declare themselves and be allowed to hold some sort of campaign, etc. If however a Deputy Secretary General is only needed to keep the seat of the Secretary General warm and to organise these elections, my government doesn't really see the added value of a complicated procedure to determine one. Any one of us is capable of executing those tasks. If it's just to determine a place-holder, my government proposes that e.g. the oldest delegate in this League will temporarily assume the daily duties of the Secretary General and focus on organising an election to elect a new Secretary General."
Jora li Nhórili monarcíya mey Gehermhach pw Bajwrey. Cleca òt henna déqhahen Lesta wnho Yasytwnwn.
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Vancouvia
Minister
 
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Founded: Sep 19, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Vancouvia » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:11 pm

"Vancouvia is willing to move forward on a resolution without a Deputy position, providing that one with that position is immediately brought for discussion and implementation following the vote."

"We would also like to suggest that the Deputy have limited powers as designated and consented to by the SG, in order to assist with SG duties. We cannot expect the SG to be present in this chamber every day and night - it would be preferable for the Deputy to have the ability to fill in not only when needed, but also when requested."

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Aizcona
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 156
Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:54 am

Resolution 17: Secretary-General Elections
The Assembly of the League of the Western Isles

IN ACCORDANCE with the League’s commitment to equality and democratic values,
OBSERVING the lack of a Secretary-General due to sudden resignation; and in
NOTING the pressing need for a Secretary-General of the League of The Western Isles to be elected,

Hereby:
1. Immediately triggers an election process for the position of Secretary-General within the League of The Western Isles, with voting to be held seven days after the passing of this resolution.
2. Permits and encourages any member nation of the League to make known to the chamber its endorsement or nomination of a candidate for the position of Secretary-General
3. Officially amends Article 4 of the New Charter of the League to stipulate that the maximum length between two elections is to be eight months, with a term limit of three terms (24 months).

Introduced by Aizcona on 11/19/19


“Here is the final resolution.”
President of The Western Isles

"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Almorea
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 181
Founded: May 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Almorea » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:43 am

"Almorea will support the resolution as presented. It is time to finally move on. The question of a deputy may be settled after we have a new Secretary-General."
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The League of TWI
Envoy
 
Posts: 270
Founded: Jun 03, 2015
Father Knows Best State

Postby The League of TWI » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:52 pm

"We will now bring this resolution to a vote"

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Aizcona
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 156
Founded: Aug 28, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Aizcona » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:53 pm

"Aizcona votes aye and vouches for the Anshlen candidate."
President of The Western Isles

"You're a decent guy with enough personality quirks to keep you interesting, yet tolerable to talk to."
"Polar's all like "I like you as a friend" but that feels empty. Polar would say that to a kitten he just met because he's just a really nice friendly optimist (which I like about him)"

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Scantarbia
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 120
Founded: Dec 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Scantarbia » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:10 am

"Scantarbia supports the resolution and Mr. Andrew Whitford, the Anshlen candidate."

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Aruia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Apr 01, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Aruia » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:11 am

"Aruia vote in favor of election and the Ahnslen candidate, with the note and request that a deputy will be assigned within 20 days of the secretary-general being elected"
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