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Postby Corindia » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:59 pm

"Corindia votes nay"

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Postby Samudera » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:38 am

"Samudera votes aye"
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Postby Yinhe » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:30 pm

"Yinhe votes aye"

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Postby Vancouvia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:47 pm

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Postby Tectonix » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:55 pm

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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:04 am

“Great-Imperialonia votes in favour of this resolution.”
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Postby Covonant » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:05 pm

"Nay " expressed the Covonantian representative
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:39 pm

"Belle Ilse en Terre abstains."
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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am

“Honourable delegates, when this voting procedure is officialy declared over and closed. Might Great-Imperialonia take the floor?”
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:23 pm

"Of what do you wish to speak?" asked Giles, his body leaned forward, betraying interest, but his expression neutral and even mildly condescending.
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Postby Verona Beach » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:24 pm

"I'd like to remind the honourable delegate from Verdon that they could have made a motion to split the question to move offending operative clauses to a separate resolution if they so desired instead of blindly voting down the resolution at hand."
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Postby Verdon » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:46 pm

"We would inform the delegate from Verona Beach that our party was absent from the chamber when the floor was open to debate and was only briefed on the resolution contents after the voting period had begun. If the league recordings are correct, it shows that my concerns about the resolution were also voiced by the Corindian delegate, but that concern was not addressed before your own motion closed debate."

"Furthermore, I would recommend that the delegate from Verona Beach refrain from calling our decisions 'blind' as ours is the only delegation that has provided justification along with our vote."

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Postby Corindia » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:10 pm

"Indeed, the fixes to the proposal did not rectify the problems we had with it"

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Postby The League of TWI » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:53 am

"This resolution passes 7-3. It seems that many nations who are supposed to inhabit these halls do not wish to vote or are not present for many of these resolutions. This fact pains me as international cooperation should be a goal for all nations. None-the-less, the delegate from Great-Imperilonia may take the floor."

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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:35 pm

“Thank you your excellency”

Isis Fairglass stood up and closed her jacket

“You are probably aware of the recent happenings in Great-Imperialonia as broadcast by news organisations. Grand Duke Nicholas Alexander has been crowned Emperor of Aprosians and Džehar of New Aapelistan about two weeks ago. He resides in Great-Imperialonia, for in our eyes he is the rightful successor to the Aprosian-dynasty, Emperors that used to rule New Aapelistan before the communists took over. His claim has been investigated by historians from both Great-Imperialonia and Covonant, so there is absolutely no doubt in it’s legitimacy. I wish to inform you that Emperor-Pretender Nicholas II has formed his cabinet and appointed his own Prime-Minister, who are drafting a new constitution for New Aapelistan as we speak. They wish nothing more than to be re-installed as the rightful rulers of the nation.

New Aapelistan has been the centre of tensions in our region for far two long. Aprosians have suffered too much, and have been exposed to the cruelty of the communist regime for far too long. Let us try to end this once and for all. I ask the support of all the nations here that support freedom and democracy to go further than just sanction New Aapelistan. Break ties with the communist regime that has ruled the nation for too long, and recognise Nicholas II and his cabinet as the legitimate government. Let his government be a beacon of hope for a free and democratic New Aapelistan once more.

I would like the League to officially recognise his claim as the pretender to the Aapelistanian throne and thus internationally legitimise his administration.”
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Postby Ainslie » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:07 pm

"If the Emperor Pretender cares for his nation so much as to try and overthrow a longstanding government, he must understand that there is only one way to go with this. There is no returning to the 'glorious imperial' days. Those days are gone. Ainslie will only recognise a democratically elected government, no more.... no less. I am also concerned regarding the Imperialonian influence over New Aapelistan if this so called emperor becomes ruler."
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Postby Corindia » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:09 pm

Great-Imperialonia wrote:“Thank you your excellency”

Isis Fairglass stood up and closed her jacket

“You are probably aware of the recent happenings in Great-Imperialonia as broadcast by news organisations. Grand Duke Nicholas Alexander has been crowned Emperor of Aprosians and Džehar of New Aapelistan about two weeks ago. He resides in Great-Imperialonia, for in our eyes he is the rightful successor to the Aprosian-dynasty, Emperors that used to rule New Aapelistan before the communists took over. His claim has been investigated by historians from both Great-Imperialonia and Covonant, so there is absolutely no doubt in it’s legitimacy. I wish to inform you that Emperor-Pretender Nicholas II has formed his cabinet and appointed his own Prime-Minister, who are drafting a new constitution for New Aapelistan as we speak. They wish nothing more than to be re-installed as the rightful rulers of the nation.

New Aapelistan has been the centre of tensions in our region for far two long. Aprosians have suffered too much, and have been exposed to the cruelty of the communist regime for far too long. Let us try to end this once and for all. I ask the support of all the nations here that support freedom and democracy to go further than just sanction New Aapelistan. Break ties with the communist regime that has ruled the nation for too long, and recognise Nicholas II and his cabinet as the legitimate government. Let his government be a beacon of hope for a free and democratic New Aapelistan once more.

I would like the League to officially recognise his claim as the pretender to the Aapelistanian throne and thus internationally legitimise his administration.”

"Does this league really stoop to recognizing pretenders? bringing a proper democratic rule to our northern neighbors is welcome, and perhaps a casus belli by itself, but tying that hope to a bloodline is hardly befitting of a 21st century organization."
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Postby Great-Imperialonia » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:58 pm

“As the right honourable delegates from both Ainslie and Corindia most importantly mention is the old fashion imperial government style. However, Nicholas II will, unlike the old imperial days rule as a constitutional monarch controlled by an elected parliament, only burdened with ceremonial functions, so has it been stated in his new constitution.

The fact is, New Aapelistan is, and has always been a horrible regime located in the middle of our region. President Nijakov has commited multiple crimes against humanity and violated the rights of his citizens. We welcome the idea the delegate from Corindia, but the fact is we do not have someone so loved by Aprosians to replace the communist dictatorship, as Nicholas II is. Aapelistanians love their Džehar, even if it is a long forgotten bloodline.

Immediately after his coronation in Great-Imperialonia riots started in New Aapelistan, which were heavily suppressed by the CPNA of course. This shows the fear President Nijakov has for the Džehar. There are very monarchist parts in New Aapelistan and we can seize this oppurtunity to install a democratic government and free their people once and for all.”
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:07 pm

“My fellow delegates are clearly mislead by the revolutionary and disruptive elements of political thought. Monarchy is niether necessarily undemocratic, nor out dated. The Ilse firstly declares full support for Emporer Nicholas, and second, reminds fellow delegates that democracy is an unfit tool for governing violent and evil places, such as New Aapelistan. If left to the rabble of New Aapelistan, any ostensibly free country would hastily return to the sins of the current regime. A re-instituted Monarchy will resist such tendencies, and will provide firm order and a stable government, that will not yield to the depraved whims of the ever present revolutionaries. Emperor Nicholas represents a rare oppurtunity to bring stability to the East, and to end its ceaseless strife.” Sir Giles sat down, knowing at the very least that the King would approve of the speech. He knew the Ilse was a bit war weary, after San Montagna, and then the Civil War, but he knew that the chance of a friendmy monarchy was too good to give up.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Stephanie looked towards Lady Fairglass, "While Polar Svalbard is no friend of New Aapelistan, we will not allow the League to support unofficial governments against official governments. The only way for this 'Emperor' to become Emperor of New Aapelistan would be for the people to support his rise and for the government to turn itself to his, or if the people will support him in a revolution against an inept and awful government. Already the League is accused of being bent to the whims of the Mesder. To condone an unofficial government as the actual government would be a death knel for this institution in regards to Eastern style governments. Athara Magarat has already shown us this."

Stephanie ran a slender finger along the papers in front of her, "I believe your government is trying to find legitimacy in this from what happened with Bhikkustan. I will tell you that this is not similar. That nation was put under pressure from a much stronger nation with ties to it which overthrew the legitimate government circumventing institutions. This caused the actual government to flee to Athara Magarat where it still has some semblance of power in the fact that it still does have soldiers under its command who will fight for 'their' country. It is a legitimate government in exile, this 'emperor' is not. We do not live in the Medieval Era..."

Stephanie turned her head slightly towards the delegate from Belle Ilse en Terre, "As much as some would like to believe so."
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Postby Verdon » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:54 pm

"What absolute hypocrisy." Robert stood, brow furrowed in frustration.

"How can you even begin to speak about the league not supporting unofficial governments when it was your resolution that recognized one? Bhikkustan was taken over by a socialist revolution lead by a popularly supported labor party as well as the Buddhist clergy. You've just implied that popular revolution is a legitimate expression of the will of the people of a nation, and that it can result in legitimate governments. Need I remind you that the Khangate, the deposed government that you've chosen to throw in your lot with, is an Absolute Monarchy.

"So here we are debating a like scenario where the only difference is that this claimant actually has the power to mobilize on its intentions, and has set out plans for actual democracy. Yet this time, it seems that the sane restrictions of the League have crossed your mind. Perhaps the Athara Magarati had distracted you from this.

"However, you are not wrong; this is not something the League should endorse. The League should not be determining recognition of rightful leadership of nations outside of its members. The League cannot recognize claims on New Aapelistan. There is no New Aapelistan. There is no Bhikkustan. Both chosen governments of these states have formed the EUSR.

"The League cannot support claims of Emporer Nicholas and should consider the repeal of Resolution 4."
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Postby Corindia » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:42 pm

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:“My fellow delegates are clearly mislead by the revolutionary and disruptive elements of political thought. Monarchy is niether necessarily undemocratic, nor out dated. The Ilse firstly declares full support for Emporer Nicholas, and second, reminds fellow delegates that democracy is an unfit tool for governing violent and evil places, such as New Aapelistan. If left to the rabble of New Aapelistan, any ostensibly free country would hastily return to the sins of the current regime. A re-instituted Monarchy will resist such tendencies, and will provide firm order and a stable government, that will not yield to the depraved whims of the ever present revolutionaries. Emperor Nicholas represents a rare oppurtunity to bring stability to the East, and to end its ceaseless strife.” Sir Giles sat down, knowing at the very least that the King would approve of the speech. He knew the Ilse was a bit war weary, after San Montagna, and then the Civil War, but he knew that the chance of a friendmy monarchy was too good to give up.

"I'm not sure why you'd think bringing yourself up as an example would help his case, and just declaring the people of New Aapelistan to be irredeemably 'violent and evil' is childish. Our quarrels, whatever they may be, are with their current government after all, certainly not the people."

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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:46 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote: We do not live in the Medieval Era..."
Stephanie turned her head slightly towards the delegate from Belle Ilse en Terre, "As much as some would like to believe so."

Giles was ready, he ignored the comment by the Corindian delegate, finding it inaccurate and irrelevant, and he eagerly grabbed the gauntlet subtly thrown down by Stephanie. “Surrender to the decadence of this era is not the answer towards the pressing matter brought before us. Return to virtue, and returning to power the moral and divinely sanctioned King Nicholas is the best, the only, response. Return to the old ways of governance will yield better results. The Ilse has had a lengthy history of Monarchy, and a lengthy history of stability. Those who still miss the truth may attempt to refer to the unfortunate disturbance in succession, but to use such evidence is to betray desperation, rather than adeptness. The succession crisis, if that it can be called, has been quickly resolved, and even if that were impossibly not so, the only previous trouble was over forty years ago. Who can argue that the government of the Ilse has been feeble; it has cowed Volkegoth and Dormill and Stiura, and has expanded its presence abroad, with hiding behind alliances to intimidate its opponents. The inferior governments need these alliances, lest they fall prey to depravity.” Giles got a bit carried away, and digressed, “And what of Charbagnia? Where has ots democracy gotten it?” Giles paused, to catch his breath and to realise what he had just said. He quickly scrambled for a mental path of retreat, lest his arguments be thwarted.
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Postby Corindia » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:48 pm

Verdon wrote:"What absolute hypocrisy." Robert stood, brow furrowed in frustration.

"How can you even begin to speak about the league not supporting unofficial governments when it was your resolution that recognized one? Bhikkustan was taken over by a socialist revolution lead by a popularly supported labor party as well as the Buddhist clergy. You've just implied that popular revolution is a legitimate expression of the will of the people of a nation, and that it can result in legitimate governments. Need I remind you that the Khangate, the deposed government that you've chosen to throw in your lot with, is an Absolute Monarchy.

"So here we are debating a like scenario where the only difference is that this claimant actually has the power to mobilize on its intentions, and has set out plans for actual democracy. Yet this time, it seems that the sane restrictions of the League have crossed your mind. Perhaps the Athara Magarati had distracted you from this.

"However, you are not wrong; this is not something the League should endorse. The League should not be determining recognition of rightful leadership of nations outside of its members. The League cannot recognize claims on New Aapelistan. There is no New Aapelistan. There is no Bhikkustan. Both chosen governments of these states have formed the EUSR.

"The League cannot support claims of Emporer Nicholas and should consider the repeal of Resolution 4."

"The EUSR would have more of a claim to legitimacy if its member nations didn't pick and choose when they would function as a sovereign state and when they wouldn't. As things stand now, it's abundantly clear that the so-called EUSR is merely a re-branding of a military alliance, gift-wrapped so as to avoid the consequences of its member states' previous actions."

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