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Postby Arenumberg » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:21 am

I put a cleaner basic "everywhere remotely important that isn't a village" type map, if anyone finds those useful, a lot more readable than my one with paint lines going everywhere, that's for sure.

Hmm.. Im bad at this.

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Formed out of war and faith and forged from victory, Solvaldir was sworn in vassalage to the Empire of Man and has remained tied into its ever powerful rise to near pre-eminence. Solvaldir, however, has remained, like a handful of the other more distant kingdoms tied by vassalage, a distinctly different area to the heart of the Empire. A nation of seasoned farmers, hunters, and pious protectors, the lands it holds are - seemingly held in favour by their faith - a place of great beauty.

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Postby Achesia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:52 am

Great Houses of Xie wrote:I can double as the imperium. Kok did wrote up the inperium as being xenophobic, too, but i guess that can be changed.


Ya I mean I think the Elves just thought they were better but they still tolerated the other races.

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Postby Arenumberg » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:02 am

Fylkira is a title rather than a name, by the way, the joys of Norse :p (And Icelandic).
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Postby The JVP » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:44 pm

Achesia wrote:
Inoroth wrote:
Yeah, the Elves better start getting some satilites together, or this is not going to be a fair fight :p

Seriously, though, anyone seen or heard anything from KNights of Kings?


Yeah I have no idea. So we may need to have someone take up the mantel of being the Tomekian Imperium. Any takers?

I can take it up.

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Postby The JVP » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:53 pm

Achesia wrote:
Great Houses of Xie wrote:I can double as the imperium. Kok did wrote up the inperium as being xenophobic, too, but i guess that can be changed.


Ya I mean I think the Elves just thought they were better but they still tolerated the other races.

To be fair, wanting to be admin and playing two realms would be a lot on my plate. Xie seems pretty active and willing to put some IC time with the Elves. So I withdrew my name from this hat.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:27 pm

Smallish post made. WIP on the Pavlostani portion
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Postby Arenumberg » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:16 pm

Doing some work here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 3&t=346640 - let me know if anything is crazy or if anything is interesting and should be elaborated on more.

Thanks to Achesia for the noble house layout, though.

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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:03 pm

To start, I can't imagine the Empire being too happy with Solvaldir consorting with dirty non-humans and letting them live peacefully. As such, the way you envision Solvaldir, there's no way it's a vassal; it's far more likely to be an enemy of the Empire.

EDIT: Perhaps if the whole tolerance thing were recent in defiance of the Empire, but considering it seems like Solvaldir has been with the Empire for a while, it'd have found out about the tolerance thing and long moved to suppress it. With it having been suppressed, I imagine the Empire would have the equivalent of inquisitors and the like throughout the Solvaldir realm to ensure Solvaldir doesn't go against the Empire's will again.
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Postby Bulgislavia » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:31 am

Here's a map of Vatheros for RP purposes.

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New's coming out of Vatheros that leaders around the world have access too, provided they have good spy masters or travelers or merchants that have been in Vatheros in the last week:

* A royal wedding is scheduled to take place between the Elvin Crown Princess Mera Di Sekloni and Prince of Satcuan, Adriano Serona. Wedding is to take place in one of the next full moons July 31st or August 29th. Invitations have been extended to all 'friendly nobles' in among the peoples of the world. No one in Vatheros is really expecting many nobles to attend, but the invites are a mere courtesy and in the unlikely events nobles from other empires can attend the Ruling family of Vatheros is hoping good foreign relations will also ensure the kingdom's security from the global ambitions of the Empire of Man.

* King Romeo is an 80 yearold elf (though generations of intermixing with humans and dwarf's have reduced the lifespans of Vatheros elves, so 80 is certainly getting on for a Vatherosi elf, most life to their 80's and 90's. Humans have life expectancies of 65 while Dwarf's have a life span in the late 50's). There are whispers that is may not be long before the time of King Romeo ends and the reign of Queen Mera begins. As Vatherosi tradition of hereditary power states Crown Princess Mera will be the pre-eminent and official ruler of Vatheros despite her marriage, giving her a king that would recognized as the second most powerful person in Vatheros.

* The King's second daughter, Princess Cassandra has been sent to the court of the Zarhad Union, there are rumors that King Romeo hopes to establish a marriage pact between his second daughter and one of the Zarhadian Princes which would pave the way for a potential alliance to add another counterweight to the Empire of Man's hegemony in this part of the world and help further secure Vatheros' chance of more long term independence and freedom from EoM influence.

* A noble head of one of the kingdom's great houses has been summoned before the king in light of revelations of barbaric cruelty in the Zitonz city principolity.

* A great artist is making waves in the Vatheros cultural scene with the release of his latest play 'The Dove and the Urchin'
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Postby Arenumberg » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:59 am

Great Houses of Xie wrote:To start, I can't imagine the Empire being too happy with Solvaldir consorting with dirty non-humans and letting them live peacefully. As such, the way you envision Solvaldir, there's no way it's a vassal; it's far more likely to be an enemy of the Empire.

EDIT: Perhaps if the whole tolerance thing were recent in defiance of the Empire, but considering it seems like Solvaldir has been with the Empire for a while, it'd have found out about the tolerance thing and long moved to suppress it. With it having been suppressed, I imagine the Empire would have the equivalent of inquisitors and the like throughout the Solvaldir realm to ensure Solvaldir doesn't go against the Empire's will again.


There's certainly very little "consorting", You wouldn't find a non-human in the church's hierarchy, for example, and certainly not in any noble house or leading mercantile interest. They are still regarded "poorly" - its just not to the point of being enslaved or beaten for daring to walk the streets. The idea is that while the "faith" says y'all should be BFF's, the reality is never that good, and the faith's propaganda does omit, after all, what happened to most of the non-humans who used to live here long long ago. There's so few Elves who for the most part don't even live anywhere that humans do that them being taxed (often higher) and then left alone involves less effort, while getting tribute and the spoils of dwarf endeavour without having to try and siege what's left of the dwarf holds is just more prudent, I expect they still have to deal with House Orn being all over them about everything in a derogatory manner, though.

That said, that doesn't prevent the generally better stuff, if its regarded as so, being relatively recent, particularly as a mechanism for RP, and should be treated as such where deemed appropriate. I've essentially written in that the main impetus was a vision received during Ormond Vaesir's (Astrid's Grandfather) trial of light that was the main impetus behind it becoming a tenet of the faith.

Also, you guys are gonna kill me, Fylkira is a title :p. If you write "Queen" Astrid just replace Queen, or don't replace it at all, its fine, just don't make it her name ;). And no, I'm not really mad, its just amusing,
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:02 am

@Bulgislavia - the standard Dwarf, at least in the Order, Shogunate, and CLans, lives 160 years.
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Postby Bulgislavia » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:48 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:@Bulgislavia - the standard Dwarf, at least in the Order, Shogunate, and CLans, lives 160 years.


Ah I see, unfortunatly the city of Kesyth where the Vatherosi dwarf's mostly reside is a really unhygienic city and a long working life in the mine mountain ranges mean their lifespans are significantly shorter, plus other lifestyle and environmental factors. Perhaps King Romeo will have to send an intrepid explorer to your lands to see if the secret to greater longevity can be brought back to Vatheros :P ....

Also, you guys are gonna kill me, Fylkira is a title :p. If you write "Queen" Astrid just replace Queen, or don't replace it at all, its fine, just don't make it her name ;). And no, I'm not really mad, its just amusing,


Whoop's, made appropriate correction, thanks for the head's up Queen Flykira Astrid.... lol jjks :D
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:28 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Smallish post made. WIP on the Pavlostani portion

I'm happy with how you played my orcs. On one hand I felt like I would maybe be smarter than to have them speak in a Zelbaen tongue/accent, but it would be wrong for this to go on without a hitch or an oversight on my part (since it is my first time using these type of troops) So I'll gladly have that be their "mistake" after all, there were not supposed to be any survivors within earshot. I guess the next phase would be my Hellhounds landing on the coasts. Any names of small fishing villages/small towns you want me to use?
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:37 am

Dbrought wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Smallish post made. WIP on the Pavlostani portion

I'm happy with how you played my orcs. On one hand I felt like I would maybe be smarter than to have them speak in a Zelbaen tongue/accent, but it would be wrong for this to go on without a hitch or an oversight on my part (since it is my first time using these type of troops) So I'll gladly have that be their "mistake" after all, there were not supposed to be any survivors within earshot. I guess the next phase would be my Hellhounds landing on the coasts. Any names of small fishing villages/small towns you want me to use?

I figured since they are slave-soldiers and Orcs to boot, they wouldn't really have a grasp on how Dwarf settlements are made. Nonetheless, most people died. Only the two Dwarfs in the fungus farm and the trappers and hunters(who are gone for weeks at a time, honestly they'll probably get wiped out by your patrols) are left of that village. As for places, Rybatskiy Bukhta and Losos' Bey are two mid-sized ports while Mysderevnya, Primorski, and Krasnyyreki Glen are fishing towns.
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:05 am

@Arenumberg: sounds gud. Though, Achesia's Empire of Man is definitely of the "beat up on sight" variety of intolerance, so I suppose it's up to him to RP how the Empire reacts to Solvaldir's slightly more tolerant view on non-humans.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:14 am

@Bulgislavia, I'll send a Lordling to your wedding.

@Xie, what's Xie's stance on the Empire?
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:25 am

Very unfriendly.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:40 am

Great Houses of Xie wrote:Very unfriendly.

*wries on planner* send envoys to make friends
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:54 am

Now that we're a little closer on the map, I suppose Shie would be a little more inclined to do something with Einokaze; before, it was almost entirely out of the question.
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:00 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Dbrought wrote:I'm happy with how you played my orcs. On one hand I felt like I would maybe be smarter than to have them speak in a Zelbaen tongue/accent, but it would be wrong for this to go on without a hitch or an oversight on my part (since it is my first time using these type of troops) So I'll gladly have that be their "mistake" after all, there were not supposed to be any survivors within earshot. I guess the next phase would be my Hellhounds landing on the coasts. Any names of small fishing villages/small towns you want me to use?

I figured since they are slave-soldiers and Orcs to boot, they wouldn't really have a grasp on how Dwarf settlements are made. Nonetheless, most people died. Only the two Dwarfs in the fungus farm and the trappers and hunters(who are gone for weeks at a time, honestly they'll probably get wiped out by your patrols) are left of that village. As for places, Rybatskiy Bukhta and Losos' Bey are two mid-sized ports while Mysderevnya, Primorski, and Krasnyyreki Glen are fishing towns.

Perfect. I'm going to get a post up soon where the Hell hounds hit some/all of these locations, and King Balthazar Norcross is preparing for the invasion, only to suddenly be called away by the Emperor to lead another army. He is going be very pissed, and while he goes to personally meet the Emperor's call his brother, second son, and nephew are going to lead the landing forces.
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Postby Taelete » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:09 pm

Great Houses of Xie wrote:@taelete: usually, military expeditions are sent out towards the end of spring. I see that youre playing up the leader as being smart, so i dont think he would have left earlier than now, since it's late spring now. Also, it's convention to put different speaking people on a different line. Because you have huge walls of text, I find it difficult to read. Example of people talking:

"Wut up," he asked.

"Not much," she replied.


Thank you for the advise, I'll edit my post when I've got a computer again(propably tomorrow). I'll soon also start with my factbook, nation box and next IC post(quite a lot :p ). Sorry for my slow writing speed, IRL stuff, a writing block and another RP that asks attention make me less quickly.
Feel free to TG me for any diplomatic or War RP, I'm always interested.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:21 pm

Dbrought wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I figured since they are slave-soldiers and Orcs to boot, they wouldn't really have a grasp on how Dwarf settlements are made. Nonetheless, most people died. Only the two Dwarfs in the fungus farm and the trappers and hunters(who are gone for weeks at a time, honestly they'll probably get wiped out by your patrols) are left of that village. As for places, Rybatskiy Bukhta and Losos' Bey are two mid-sized ports while Mysderevnya, Primorski, and Krasnyyreki Glen are fishing towns.

Perfect. I'm going to get a post up soon where the Hell hounds hit some/all of these locations, and King Balthazar Norcross is preparing for the invasion, only to suddenly be called away by the Emperor to lead another army. He is going be very pissed, and while he goes to personally meet the Emperor's call his brother, second son, and nephew are going to lead the landing forces.

Bukhta and Losos will have to be sieges but the others will fall quickly.
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:23 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Dbrought wrote:Perfect. I'm going to get a post up soon where the Hell hounds hit some/all of these locations, and King Balthazar Norcross is preparing for the invasion, only to suddenly be called away by the Emperor to lead another army. He is going be very pissed, and while he goes to personally meet the Emperor's call his brother, second son, and nephew are going to lead the landing forces.

Bukhta and Losos will have to be sieges but the others will fall quickly.


I guess then I'll raid the others and watch them fall quickly, and then have my hellhounds hit you hard enough that you have to retreat behind the walls and watch the hinterland get pillaged and burned but then have the invasion force deal with the sieges.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:26 pm

Dbrought wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote: Bukhta and Losos will have to be sieges but the others will fall quickly.


I guess then I'll raid the others and watch them fall quickly, and then have my hellhounds hit you hard enough that you have to retreat behind the walls and watch the hinterland get pillaged and burned but then have the invasion force deal with the sieges.

What are hellhounds btw?
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:05 pm

Hell Hounds is the name of the military unit under the command of Lucien Norcross, first son of the King and heir to the throne. They are named partially in reference to the breed of dogs they bring with them which are bred to be particularly vicious (cross breed of a wolf and Shepard dog) and go after horses/ridding animals. This tactic is primarily used so that the dogs intercept and kill small groups of horses, and riders while the men are landing on the beaches to prevent someone from riding to a local garrison to request aid, and if their job is done right then they can be used to search for stragglers and survivors. This is to give the rest of the unit more time to thoroughly raid and pillage.

The soldiers in the Hell Hounds are elite deep strike troops. Each of them are veteran sailors, soldiers, and raiders trained to hit beaches (or go deep upriver), raid, pillage, and burn what they can, ambush or observe any military forces they find (smaller forces they can take swiftly are attacked, larger forces harassed) and then retreat to their ships before a force capable of combating them is raised. They have been particularly effective against the confederacy, and largely responsible for the success of some of my slaving campaigns. (before the confederacy was accepted and there were just Orc NPC's I ran with the idea that the mouth of the river used to be under orc control until I took it during my expansion. These types of troops would have been the first wave.)

Edit: also as a point of pride any soldier in the unit gets the Hell Hound sigil, a hound with bloodied mouth, tattooed on their body somewhere
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