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Postby Achesia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:14 pm

So is the Shaie caravan a army in disguise or something? Im trying to figure out what would bring my troops over as far as reason, and when.
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Postby The JVP » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:42 pm

Achesia wrote:
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In the global north, maybe. The Empire has barely any of those (though Zarhad has elves), and the states along the Cut feature minorities at best and are primarily human. Then Tomekia has an elven majority, but oppresses the others where they even have them. There was a goblin and a troll NPC down south, but the goblin turf just got eaten by the additional Shie land and I'm not sure what the trolls are doing with the new map, but it seemed like they kept to themselves before.


It would make sense if it were in the North East maybe farther north of tomekian and east of the dwarven and orc states.

The JVP wrote:Hopefully I was not given extra land. I just want what I already have.


I gave you some on the shore? Do you not want it?

I do not. I really don't want any kind of mainland claims.

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Postby Vozt Yurkova » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:10 pm

Achesia wrote:So is the Shaie caravan a army in disguise or something? And at won't point does the conflict begin?


Not to my knowledge, Xie just needed a character in Carsepolis. In my next post I'll be going into more detail about what Mortikas is getting up to - generally causing chaos in the Cut and the Trader's Sea, which will give anyone who wants it the opportunity to react to their trade being disrupted.
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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:12 pm

The JVP wrote:
Achesia wrote:
It would make sense if it were in the North East maybe farther north of tomekian and east of the dwarven and orc states.



I gave you some on the shore? Do you not want it?

I do not. I really don't want any kind of mainland claims.


Hey JVP your the Zarhad Union right? Maybe your nobility ruling that mainland province marry into the Vatheros ruling family, that way that mainland area can be ceded to the Kingdom of Vatheros *cough cough*, while also still being considered part of the Zarhad Union (But ruled by a Vatheros noble and Zarhadi wife??? Or something to that effect?
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:37 pm

Well, supposing my caravan is there for greater purposes than "just" getting a character in there <,<..... I have my plans for them, hoho. I wouldn't call it an "army," though; it's only composed of approximately 290 dudes.
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Postby IshCong » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:41 pm

Achesia wrote:So is the Shaie caravan a army in disguise or something? Im trying to figure out what would bring my troops over as far as reason, and when.


We're sorely lacking in the Carsepolis-Taniar tensions posts that were supposed to kickstart things. That's how everyone down there was supposed to get involved.
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Postby Achesia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:48 pm

IshCong wrote:
Achesia wrote:So is the Shaie caravan a army in disguise or something? Im trying to figure out what would bring my troops over as far as reason, and when.


We're sorely lacking in the Carsepolis-Taniar tensions posts that were supposed to kickstart things. That's how everyone down there was supposed to get involved.


Well Xie if you wanted to have a conflict between the two of us, maybe you want to muscle in on trade we can do that as well?

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:18 pm

The Confederation Diplomat and the Zelbae invasion were the only things I need to respond to, right?
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:48 pm

Well, we could kickstart the thing by just having Shie invade Carsepolis? I was waiting to see how the Carsepolis-Taniar thing plays out, then figure out what the Shie are gonna do. Given what's happened so far, I was thinking of using the volatile Carsepolitan politics as an excuse to get the Shie armies moving to "support" the "legitimate" Carsepolitan Grand Admiral (presumably, my merchants would have gotten wind or noticed the stirring up of things and then reported back). I would prefer to avoid simply invading for the sake of it, but if we wanna get the party started, I can go ahead and write that up.
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Postby Achesia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:03 pm

Great Houses of Xie wrote:Well, we could kickstart the thing by just having Shie invade Carsepolis? I was waiting to see how the Carsepolis-Taniar thing plays out, then figure out what the Shie are gonna do. Given what's happened so far, I was thinking of using the volatile Carsepolitan politics as an excuse to get the Shie armies moving to "support" the "legitimate" Carsepolitan Grand Admiral (presumably, my merchants would have gotten wind or noticed the stirring up of things and then reported back). I would prefer to avoid simply invading for the sake of it, but if we wanna get the party started, I can go ahead and write that up.


with how I have been reading it that would fit well. Vozt what do you think?

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Postby Inoroth » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:10 pm

I am so sorry for my lack of posts... I will try very hard to have something definitive up tonight :(
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Postby Achesia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:27 pm

Inoroth wrote:I am so sorry for my lack of posts... I will try very hard to have something definitive up tonight :(


Its ok, I know RL can suck sometimes, believe me. Just do your best.

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Postby Achesia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:34 pm

Bulgislavia what all do you want to do to fit in to the RP?

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Postby The JVP » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:03 pm

Bulgislavia wrote:
The JVP wrote:I do not. I really don't want any kind of mainland claims.


Hey JVP your the Zarhad Union right? Maybe your nobility ruling that mainland province marry into the Vatheros ruling family, that way that mainland area can be ceded to the Kingdom of Vatheros *cough cough*, while also still being considered part of the Zarhad Union (But ruled by a Vatheros noble and Zarhadi wife??? Or something to that effect?

I have two Queens, one i an Elf that is beyond the age of even wanting to marry (She is the true leader.) She has three half elf kids, but they are busy with their knight order, and the other Queen is a lesbian in a relationship with the Elf Queen... As for other royal families
I have yet to flush them out, but if Achesia would allow you to have what ever land he game me on the mainland, then enjoy.

Plus before I start marrying people into the family, I would need to know what your nation is about first.

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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:04 pm

Achesia wrote:Bulgislavia what all do you want to do to fit in to the RP?


mainly just establish main characters and locations in Vatheros then get more tied into the bigger picture intrigue happening in the world. Vatheros is not an aggressive or expansionist empire and just wants to develop peacefully. The biggest threat is the pro-human agenda of the Empire of Man, as we share a border and have access to the Drak Sea. The current ruling family are considered Elvin despite their deceased mother being human.

Prince Simon the youngest child and only son of King Romeo wants to find a way out of his arranged marriage to the Dwarf Princess of Kesyth (The smallest but mostly Dwarf dominated city in Vatheros. He'll most likely succeed and then be a free agent to find a new marriage proposal with someone else (Maybe a foreign noble woman).

The Kings middle child Princess Cassandra is unmarried and betrothed to no one at present, possibly could be married off to another foreigner.

The Eldest daughter and heir to the Vatherosi Crown when King Romeo dies is betrothed to the human Prince Adriano Serona of the city of Satcuan, the second largest city in Vatheros.

Being so close to the Empire of Man I would imagine it would try to apply pressure on Vatheros from time to time, maybe even attempt assassinations of monarchs who aren't human or have agents who ferment unrest or plots to destabilize the Vatherosi crown. Or the alternative where theirs some attempt at establishing diplomatic relations if only to secure peace in this corner of the world so the Empire of Man can focus its ambitions in the other lands?
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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:12 pm

The JVP wrote:
Bulgislavia wrote:
Hey JVP your the Zarhad Union right? Maybe your nobility ruling that mainland province marry into the Vatheros ruling family, that way that mainland area can be ceded to the Kingdom of Vatheros *cough cough*, while also still being considered part of the Zarhad Union (But ruled by a Vatheros noble and Zarhadi wife??? Or something to that effect?

I have two Queens, one i an Elf that is beyond the age of even wanting to marry (She is the true leader.) She has three half elf kids, but they are busy with their knight order, and the other Queen is a lesbian in a relationship with the Elf Queen... As for other royal families
I have yet to flush them out, but if Achesia would allow you to have what ever land he game me on the mainland, then enjoy.

Plus before I start marrying people into the family, I would need to know what your nation is about first.


Its a mix race Kingdom, a loose alliance of five princely city states under a single monarch.
It has a population of 2,008,000
44% Elvin, 883,520
34% Human, 682,720
22% Dwarf, 441,760

The Current ruling family are the Di Sekloni's who are classed as Elvin. King Romeo is in his 80's and has ruled for 35 years and has a reputation as a fair and reasonable ruler.

Other Nobles include:
the human Prince Adriano Serona of Satcuan (betrothed to Princess Mera Di Sekloni)
the human Prince Roberto Manselli and the Elvin wife Princess Silandra of Yukonga
The Dwarf Prince Hendric Kamis and his two children Princess Gwen and Prince Daryn of Kesyth
and the Elvin Prince Tarmok Masrin the cruel of Zitonz.

Non-noble characters include members of the kings retinue, the Dwarf merchant Master Kaducci and the Spy Master Corana (And will probably flesh out some more like a soothsaying astronomer and some Vatherosi artist or something...)
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Postby The JVP » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:28 pm

Bulgislavia wrote:
The JVP wrote:I have two Queens, one i an Elf that is beyond the age of even wanting to marry (She is the true leader.) She has three half elf kids, but they are busy with their knight order, and the other Queen is a lesbian in a relationship with the Elf Queen... As for other royal families
I have yet to flush them out, but if Achesia would allow you to have what ever land he game me on the mainland, then enjoy.

Plus before I start marrying people into the family, I would need to know what your nation is about first.


Its a mix race Kingdom, a loose alliance of five princely city states under a single monarch.
It has a population of 2,008,000
44% Elvin, 883,520
34% Human, 682,720
22% Dwarf, 441,760

The Current ruling family are the Di Sekloni's who are classed as Elvin. King Romeo is in his 80's and has ruled for 35 years and has a reputation as a fair and reasonable ruler.

Other Nobles include:
the human Prince Adriano Serona of Satcuan (betrothed to Princess Mera Di Sekloni)
the human Prince Roberto Manselli and the Elvin wife Princess Silandra of Yukonga
The Dwarf Prince Hendric Kamis and his two children Princess Gwen and Prince Daryn of Kesyth
and the Elvin Prince Tarmok Masrin the cruel of Zitonz.

Non-noble characters include members of the kings retinue, the Dwarf merchant Master Kaducci and the Spy Master Corana (And will probably flesh out some more like a soothsaying astronomer and some Vatherosi artist or something...)

Zarhad is about
60% Human
20% Elf
20% half Elf

And is Elven ruled with a Human second leader.

The High Queen has three Sons. Crown Prince Lee Gak, Prince Tae-Mo, and Prince Chi-san. All members of the Makai Knighthood. Prince Lee Gak has his eye on... a guest to the realm at this moment, Tae-Mo is single and so is his brother Chi-san. All three are half elves, and at a good age for a Half Elf.

I see you have a Princess not in line for the throne and unmarried with no takers. I have two princes not in line for the throne, take your pick.

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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:33 pm

Well then perhaps King Romeo should ship off his middle child Princess Cassandra to spend time in the Zarhad court and see what happens from there? A political alliance through marriage would also bring a bit more added security for Vatheros who fears the strength of their much larger neighbor the Empire of Man.
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Postby IshCong » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:26 pm

I updated my shitty map to match the new borders. There's a shittty map of the kan of Korrss and a shitty map of the roads and cities of Korrss. The black line is the Dirakki Highway, and is still well maintained. The grey lines are other roads that are still fairly good, but not as well maintained as the Dirraki Highway.

Both are also in my Factbooks.
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Postby The JVP » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:06 am

Bulgislavia wrote:Well then perhaps King Romeo should ship off his middle child Princess Cassandra to spend time in the Zarhad court and see what happens from there? A political alliance through marriage would also bring a bit more added security for Vatheros who fears the strength of their much larger neighbor the Empire of Man.

Zarhad is always looking to see what the Empire is up to. What with their over the top xenophobia and all that. Yes a marriage like that would be fitting. If you wish to send her off to spend time she would be an honored guest.

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Postby Taelete » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:13 am

Group/Organization Name: The Vatrangarian Knightly Order
Type: (IE: Order of Knights, Religious Group, Mercenaries, Traders, Etc) Order of knights and priests
Purpose: Spreading their religion and the cleansed light.
Mission: Defeating the darkness and lesser races while spreading their religion.
Motivation: The intial motivation were the mass visions before the city of Tarovasol. Then a Prophet rose to prominence(name in the make) who won great support for the Achari Sumari religion in Vatrangaria and Zaldornea, nation that then became vassals of the Empire of Man. Ubald the White than took up arms to guard this new church region and formed the order. Constant visions and magic prove to the members of the church that their faith is right.
Race: (Approved Races So Far: Humans, Elves, Half-Elves, Orcs, Goblins, Dwarves, Gnomes/Hobbits, Trolls, More to be added) Humans and Half-Elves
Home: The nations of Vatrangaria and Zaldornea are owned by them and their HQ is the Great Cathedral of the Light in Tarovasol. This is the land I had in mind for the Orders's dominion: http://i61.tinypic.com/rmpjsw.png.
Leader: Ubald the White
Population: (Should be within the thousands at the most.) I was thinking about 6 to 7 million but I would like some advise on this.
Language: Many different so mostly the common tongue is used.
Religion: (If aplicable) Achari Sumari
Examples of Previous RPs: (Please provide 3 for us to review)
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 5&t=343381
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 5&t=333416
I have more with my previous account, I'll present those if needed.
Alignment of Group: (Vassal of the Empire, Member of the Elven Alliance, Neutral, Other) Ally of the Empire
Description of Group: (Give us the run down of what your Realm is)
The Vatrangarian Knightly Order State is a nation like the Teutonic Order State was IRL. It is built by Crusaders from the Empire of Man and has taken over control in Vatrangaria and Zaldornea. These nations have become their bulwark and supported by their church that is centered in these regions have they started a true crusade against all evil darkness and lesser races of the North. The state is ruled by the Grand Master of the order and the Patriarch of the church region and controlled by priests and knights. The realm sees itself as better than all others and happily shows that. The population is quite normal and various hereditary estates have already been established within the realm.
Relationship with other Realms: (Talk to at least 4 other players and pre-coordinate your history with each other, current relationship, etc)
Empire of Man, the Empire the only realm that is truly an ally of the Vatrangarian Order. The Emperor is considered almost divine by the Order Knights and half the Vatrangarian army stands out of imperial crusaders and auxiliaries.
Kingdom of Zelbae, Zelbae as part of the empire is offically still allied with the Vatrangarians due to both their vassalage to the Empire of Man but in fact does tension rule the relation between the Order and Zelbae. The one the most light-aligned part of the empire, the other the more shadow-aligned.
Syroth, what else could the relation between the Order and Syroth be besides eternal hate. Syroth as bulwark of darkness and Vatrangaria as the bulwark of light. Although no war between the Order and Syroth has raged yet is it a possibility that is certainly open. And the main reason why war hasn't occured yt is the no man's land between them.
Pavlostani Order, although not in the direct operational zone of the Order is the Pavlostani Order regarded as a lesser nation by the Vatrangarians and when time will come and they're strong enough wold the Vatrangarians invade the Pavlostani Order with pleasure.
How you fit into the world: (Again they need to justify what their relationship to the world is.)
The Order is just like the Empire an enemy of all non-humans and all who have an other religion than the Achari Sumari. Add a hate for darkness to it and a lot of arrogance and you'll have their sight on he world. They see mankind and especially themselves as those who walk inside the light and all non-humans are considered as those who don't walk in the light, resulting in considering themselves better and more pure than all others and feeling themselves tasked with killing anything unpure.

Third app finished. I'll start typing out my society, army and first IC post when/if accepted.
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:41 am

nice app Taelete. excited to rp with you
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:08 am

What is the approximate side off he map again?
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Postby Dbrought » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:57 pm

my new updated information

We are one of the darker, and more sadistic realms of this world. We are not outright evil. History has simply taught the Norcross family, and those that follow them, that fear is one of the most powerful and useful weapons on the battlefield. Few in this world are more effective when it comes to shock and siege tactics. Many fear the dark, and darkness is Zelabae's vassal.
Race: Human, Orc Slaves
Capital: Castle Corvinus
Ruler: Lord Norcross
Population: 5.28 million (3.696 million Humans), (1.584 million Orc slaves)
Language: Common Imperial, Northern Clans tongue, Ancient Norse (secret tongue of the Norcorss family and inner circle)
Religion: Achari Sumari (overtly), Asir Nocturna (The secret pantheon the Norcorss and inner circle worship), Asir (the pantheon the Northern clans worship, which have enough parallels to Achari Sumari that is isn't outright heresy)
Economy: Hardwood logging, silver mining, steel and weapon manufacture, potato/wheat/sugar beet/barely/oat farming, swine/dairy husbandry, Orc slaves
Military Size: 171,600 standing forces (92,400 Human) (79,200 Orc Thralls)


these are the new population and military numbers i'm going with. Inesea I am still going with the initial numbers we discussed.

Edit:

also I've narrowed down my castle and seat of power to three versions

we have last round's favorite: link
And this contender
This one which seems the most defensible and would make sense as a seat of power that resisted even the dark lord
link

also meet Asher Redgate
link
the boy from the destroyed village, who is now a strong leader come to rebuild his home in the north (alongside the Empire's border and close to or bordering Zelbae)
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:38 pm

@Achesia: Would it be possible to update the map on the front page so that it's easier for me to find the updated map? Thanks!

So, the guy who's Pavlovstani isn't here, so it's Inesea that's RPing for Pavlovstani, right?
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