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Postby Toishima » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:58 am

I do believe Muslims exist in vast numbers, especially in Dayganistan and Barujaya.
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Postby Toishima » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:17 am

My latest video game/movie RP is here, yet another non-canon production courtesy of Aki-sama. Please join if you are truly interested, as I do have a plot in mind and wish the thing could be pulled through to its conclusion, many, many chapters away.

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Postby Sabara » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:02 am

Toishima wrote:I do believe Muslims exist in vast numbers, especially in Dayganistan and Barujaya.

There is a Muslim minority in Barujaya, but it's majority Hindu.
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Postby Daeseong » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:08 am

--lol just pushing my agenda nothing to see here--
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Postby Sabara » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:08 am

Girejiazadiya wrote:-snip-

Gungju is close enough for trade with northern/central Yoju (our Middle Eastern area). This should allow for Abrahamaic religions like Christianity to gain a foothold.

I would prefer allowing Gungjun players to choose their religion rather than forcing one on them.
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Postby Dayganistan » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:26 am

I think if we want white European terrorists so bad we should have terrorist Vikings or something.

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Postby ArUmdAUM » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:14 pm

Let's talk more about Gungju once we get actual people there
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Postby ArUmdAUM » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:55 pm

In 1845, Seo Yang-cheol of the Jeongmian Socialist Party wrote the "Principles of Communism," a short piece which outlined the goals of the Jeongmian Socialist Party. However, the influence of this work is often overestimated in the capitalist Center. Seo also wrote several other works, one of the most famous being The New Economy: Capitalism, a critique of capitalist practices, particularly in the Center.

Seo saw himself as more than just a philosopher - he also saw himself as a modern man and a scientist. To him, communism was inevitable.

There were several other intellectuals who promoted similar views, such as Tsang Syu-ming in Meisaan and Hasakawa Kenta in Akitsukuni.
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Postby Toishima » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:59 pm

MAJOR CANON CHANGE

Akitsukuni is, as has been for several weeks, no longer a part of the Sinju Union. It has never been a part of the Sinju Union.

The 2015 Sinju War has been modified greatly to justify the lack of Jeongmi intervention.

In its place, the 2015 Sinju Sea Incident, which may also be called a war, would occur. In this incident, following a clash between Akitsukunese and Meisaani Coast Guard and fishing vessels in the disputed area near Lukdou, some Imperial Navy ships moved into the area not in formation, suggesting an unplanned action. A nearby Meisaani carrier force was returning from a training exercise and moved to scare the Akitsukunese away. Suddenly, an Akitsukunese plane collided with a Meisaani plane, and seeing this as an attack the Akitsukunese attacked the Meisaanis, damaging the carrier and maybe a few of the escorts. The Meisaani fleet retaliated, heavily damaging the Imperial anti-carrier cruiser before both sides were ordered to withdraw.

This "war" ended in 30 minutes and the details of the whole skirmish remain extremely questionable, and both sides claim the other was responsible for firing the first shot as many planes were flying all over the place, and various satellites and systems were conveniently hacked by an unknown force (ahem ISDF ahem) during the incident.

Regardless, war was not declared by either side, and there was no time for Jeongmi to get involved. Jeongmi was also involved in the Invasion of Ratanakiri at the time and was not in a position to do much. Post-war sanctions by the Sinju Union were placed on Akitsukuni, and Akitsukuni is still contesting these actions as they believe the collision was intentional or some kind of attack on their fighter that went wrong. As things were over so quickly, the economic dip that occurred was only a very minor speed bump.

In the aftermath of this action, the Akitsukunese coup occurred to get rid of far-right Ishihara, who supported and may have ordered the action. The officers involved in this action were made into heroes defending Akitsukunese sovereignty, though were subtly removed from frontline command positions as a sign of peace towards the mainland. This time, as the threat of crisis was not as great, the Imperial Military released control of the government after two months to a newly-voted in civilian Prime Minister, Hisoka Yamamoto, formerly the Minister of Justice. That's right. My PM is now a civilian.

At the same time, the Imperial Military is on an even higher alert in their home territory as they fear an attack by the Mainland may come soon. The largest and most powerful navy in the region continues to prowl the entire region preparing for war. The coup had a more sinister goal, which it achieved, placing an Imperial Armed Forces-controlled man into the position of Defence Minister, as it had been for the entire 1950s to 1991 period. This means the Imperial Armed Forces once again has influence and a blank cheque in the government, hidden by the civilian facade of the whole thing.

Sabara will probably follow up with the effects this had in Meisaan, such as the rise of the populists.

Across the Sinju Sea as an RP may be obliterated as many of its facts are now completely screwed.

Another proper war RP may occur soon, possibly involving Jeongmi and possibly having a Meisaan with effective leadership. Akitsukunese forces will also use their full Russian equipment, as it should be.
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Location is always Japan where applicable. If not, then a fictional landmass.
RP nation is Akitsukuni.
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This user supports the use of mechs, mecha and other legged machines in PMT and FT settings, and will use them.
Current record word count for back-to-back RP posts (that were a single unbroken narrative): 27,154 words

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Postby Sabara » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:22 pm

Meisaan's Jiwiu (lower house of the national parliament) is dominated by a coalition between the ruling center-left Labour Party and socialist Buddhist Democrats. It has been this way for the past thirty years, and many millennial Meisaani have never seen another government in power. The coalition originally oversaw a massive spurt of economic growth in the late 80's and early 90's, but were blamed for a poor response to the global recession that destroyed employment and wrecked the working class during 1996-1999(?).

In 2000 the Gwokman Minsin, a populist/protectionist/quasi-isolationist party supporting the withdrawal of Meisaan from the Sinju Union and a distancing both diplomatically and economically from Jeongmi gained a 15% vote in the Jiwiu, 12 percentage points higher than 1996. Since then they've been making rapid gains, suffering only minor setbacks in 2002 and 2012.

GM is led by Yue Sin, is a pseudo-nationalist with ancestral ties to Sun Tak-Wah, the legendary general who almost coup'ed the Meisaani civilian government twice- in 1942 following Eulhae and 1958 following a gridlock emergency in the Jiwiu. Yue is a staunch supporter of protectionist trade policy, extreme limits on foreign immigration, withdrawal from the Sinju common currency, independent foreign policy (especially from Jeongmi) and a harsher approach to Akitsukuni.

The Naval Standoff in 2015 was the perfect moment for the Gwokman Minsin, as it gave momentum to the already budding nationalist movement, especially in the context of Akitsukuni's increasingly aggressive and aloof "civilian government." The Saigong Riots also inflated some radical elements of society that seek to end foreign immigration, especially of Gungjus.

This is all a prelude to the upcoming general election this October, with the Gwokman Minsin leading in the polls. If they win the election, they will likely seek to assert themselves in disputes with Akitsukuni- especially in the islands.
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Postby Sabara » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:43 pm

The Emperor is dead.

I will be posting further updates tomorrow

In the meantime, feel free to post responses to the news!
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Postby ArUmdAUM » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:40 pm

The Great Depression

also Tropic of Cancer is NORTHERN TROPIC

Tropic of Capricorn is SOUTHERN TROPIC

in this region
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Postby ArUmdAUM » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:54 am

I'd love if any major work on your wiki articles were reported here! It'd be nice for me and others to see what kind of work you have done, and perhaps we can inspire each other on various things, haha.

It'd also be nice if any new articles you make are linked to here so I can put it on my watchlist.

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Racism_in_Jeongmi
http://iiwiki.com/wiki/History_of_women_in_Jeongmi

I am proud to say that I am the only person on IIWiki to have pages devoted to racism and the history of women. :p

fake edit: Also obesity!
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Postby Sabara » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:35 pm

Please stand by. The leadership is about to announce a major canon/stat change, especially for the nations of Jeongmi, Meisaan, and Nochtlico.
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Postby ArUmdAUM » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:57 am

I am developing the Khak (鶴) people; a minority present primarily in Jeongmi and Fusen (mostly Jeongmi) on Yeoseo and Western Fusen.
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Postby Sabara » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:59 pm

Yo peeps
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Postby Daeseong » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:23 pm

Sabara wrote:Yo peeps

hey big guy

Arumdaum wrote:I am developing the Khak (鶴) people; a minority present primarily in Jeongmi and Fusen (mostly Jeongmi) on Yeoseo and Western Fusen.

nice

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Postby Daeseong » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:12 pm

Okay fellas,

So I think it's fairly clear that Tiandi needs some RP activity. While factbooking is fun and dandy, we're on this site to role-play, first a foremost, and I think that a solid RP or two should be able to stimulate much-needed activity.

A few days ago on the IRC, we considered having a large nation (probably Indochinese) undergo severe Balkanization. I was thinking this could set the stage for a long-term humanitarian and military intervention that could pit various proxy groups against one another. This could be, instead of a single RP, the foundation of many RPs.

What do you all think? How can we stimulate activity? Do you think that this RP setting is interesting?

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Postby Intermountain States » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:47 pm

Daeseong wrote:
Okay fellas,

So I think it's fairly clear that Tiandi needs some RP activity. While factbooking is fun and dandy, we're on this site to role-play, first a foremost, and I think that a solid RP or two should be able to stimulate much-needed activity.

A few days ago on the IRC, we considered having a large nation (probably Indochinese) undergo severe Balkanization. I was thinking this could set the stage for a long-term humanitarian and military intervention that could pit various proxy groups against one another. This could be, instead of a single RP, the foundation of many RPs.

What do you all think? How can we stimulate activity? Do you think that this RP setting is interesting?

Also: Reminder to fill out the spreadsheet once you're accepted

We're gonna have to purge some stuff on the spreadsheet
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Postby Taeju » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:02 pm

Yes that would be fun. Lets get some RP crankin

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Postby Altorke » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:05 pm

Daeseong wrote:
Okay fellas,

So I think it's fairly clear that Tiandi needs some RP activity. While factbooking is fun and dandy, we're on this site to role-play, first a foremost, and I think that a solid RP or two should be able to stimulate much-needed activity.

A few days ago on the IRC, we considered having a large nation (probably Indochinese) undergo severe Balkanization. I was thinking this could set the stage for a long-term humanitarian and military intervention that could pit various proxy groups against one another. This could be, instead of a single RP, the foundation of many RPs.

What do you all think? How can we stimulate activity? Do you think that this RP setting is interesting?

Also: Reminder to fill out the spreadsheet once you're accepted

That could certainly be interesting. My nation is extremely unstable, sectarian, and dirt poor, so I could always implode if the Indochinese part of the scenario isn't imperative.
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Postby Toishima » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:59 am

Daeseong wrote:
Okay fellas,

So I think it's fairly clear that Tiandi needs some RP activity. While factbooking is fun and dandy, we're on this site to role-play, first a foremost, and I think that a solid RP or two should be able to stimulate much-needed activity.

A few days ago on the IRC, we considered having a large nation (probably Indochinese) undergo severe Balkanization. I was thinking this could set the stage for a long-term humanitarian and military intervention that could pit various proxy groups against one another. This could be, instead of a single RP, the foundation of many RPs.

What do you all think? How can we stimulate activity? Do you think that this RP setting is interesting?

Also: Reminder to fill out the spreadsheet once you're accepted

For a second I thought someone finally got his head out of the sand, then realised it was you.

Seconded to the max. Lack of care for RP and overbearing desire by certain others to do nothing but worldbuild was one of the reasons I left this region previously.

With me now as Super Myanmar and the greatest power in that general area you can bet that the Democratic Republic of Myaar'tway is going to get involved Russia-style, possibly even blocking the inevitable CoN mission through shenanigans and rules-mongering in the CoN. They may also create a People's Volunteer Army-type 'non-affiliated' military force to intervene directly without technically going to war with everyone else.
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Postby Sabara » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:43 pm

While I agree that it would be beneficial to start a roleplay, we need to make sure we have a solid worldbuilding scene as well. This region wasn't created simply for RP, even though RP is a key component. Just make sure to work on your wikis more or as much as RP.

That is all.
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Postby Toishima » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:28 am

The implication that anyone would abandon worldbuilding entirely to RP is preposterous and insulting. The very essence of RPing is grounded in worldbuilding, as without a world to RP in there would be no RP anyway. And, without RPing, the world would freeze and stop being built. We've long established that we're a realistic region in terms of aftershocks in the world due to singular events. For example, if this war is to pass, people would have to develop their economies so that they can have their economies wrecked by the war, and in order to war, people would have to develop their military and government characters as well. There would likely be no loss anywhere, especially if other RPs that address other facets of a nation are run as well, such as things that involve religion or art or the environment.

This is a perennial issue with this region that must be addressed simply by not addressing it at all. The desire to police what the members do, be it to lean towards RPing or to lean toward worldbuilding has long plagued the regional leadership, myself included during my time as Ice Empress, and would just create more conflict and disgruntlement as it has in the past. As such, I believe it would be best to just leave everyone to do what pleases them and rely on the fact that we are a collection of some of the best worldbuilders and RPers the subject matter of this region has ever seen to ensure everyone does what the region needs, rather than what some in the region want.

(Aki advocating freedom of the individual? Preposterous!)
Location is always Japan where applicable. If not, then a fictional landmass.
RP nation is Akitsukuni.
Just your usual Singaporean Chinese, who likes food, Anime, Manga, food, J-Pop, Battlefield 4 and eating food. Dislikes include how We're All Living in Amerika as well as dogs.
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This user supports the use of mechs, mecha and other legged machines in PMT and FT settings, and will use them.
Current record word count for back-to-back RP posts (that were a single unbroken narrative): 27,154 words

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Postby Sabara » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:47 am

I think we all pretty much agree
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