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Techno-Soviet
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Postby Techno-Soviet » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:48 am

    * If your feel your skills are lacking, don't be afraid to ask for help, but don't let others force 'help' down your throat, or try to get you to succumb to peer pressure. This is the Internet, there is no peer pressure here.

    * Have fun.
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Sapiency
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Postby Sapiency » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:47 am

Techno-Soviet wrote:
    * If your feel your skills are lacking, don't be afraid to ask for help, but don't let others force 'help' down your throat, or try to get you to succumb to peer pressure. This is the Internet, there is no peer pressure here.

    * Have fun.


I think you said that last one wrong.

    *Have fun, be called a noob, have stats and your nation's 'population' thrown at you, then go to Future Tech and feel much better about yourself.

    *Or go to General, where you will be completely free of molestation.
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The Great Lord Tiger
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Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:12 am

Sapiency wrote:
Techno-Soviet wrote:
    * If your feel your skills are lacking, don't be afraid to ask for help, but don't let others force 'help' down your throat, or try to get you to succumb to peer pressure. This is the Internet, there is no peer pressure here.

    * Have fun.


I think you said that last one wrong.

    *Have fun, be called a noob, have stats and your nation's 'population' thrown at you, then go to Future Tech and feel much better about yourself.

    *Or go to General, where you will be completely free of molestation.


You play with the wrong people, then.

Or else you're doing something wrong (100000 tanks when your population is only 10X that? Spare me.)

While older players can usually pass off alts as having more than their 'official' listing (due to the fact that they can be trusted to RP correctly), newer players are often held to the limits imposed by the NS system, simply because it forces you to roleplay on a smaller scale and/or not be able to shrug off losses. You get used to losing and, along the way, learn to RP the RIGHT way.
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Satirius
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Postby Satirius » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:18 pm

1) Let someone else say "read the stickies." Sure II by and large has the quality standards of a Chinese sweatshop, but I look on my "lol stickies nub" days with great embarrassment, and really most of the people who say that instead of letting bad RPers get b& through their own spammish dumbassery is other bad RPers who really need to get b& due to their spammish dumbassery.

2) That being said, aspire above the sweatshop.
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Postby Hiaku » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:36 pm

Satirius wrote:1) Let someone else say "read the stickies." Sure II by and large has the quality standards of a Chinese sweatshop, but I look on my "lol stickies nub" days with great embarrassment, and really most of the people who say that instead of letting bad RPers get b& through their own spammish dumbassery is other bad RPers who really need to get b& due to their spammish dumbassery.

2) That being said, aspire above the sweatshop.


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Postby Satirius » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:34 pm

Also, there's a spellcheck built into the posting area, which gives you options on correct word spellings when you right-click it.
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Postby Lamoni » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:05 am

Advice for n00bs? Oh God...

1. Read the stickies. It is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying when some new nation starts one of those "I declare war on everyone" threads.

2. When trying to purchase military equipment in GE&T, use the calculators. Also, read the ENTIRE design post. A lot of the questions that I get are from people who couldn't be arsed to read beyond the first paragraph of a design post. Don't be like them.

3. Never be afraid to ask for help. Some people might be dickish to people who ask for help, but the good RPers will at least try to help you, if they have the RL time in which to do so, or they'll refer you to someone who they think can help you.

4. Talk to good RPers, and see if they would be willing to mentor you.

5. If you have any interest in designing your own equipment, join the NSDraftroom. I really don't care if people call NSD a bunch of self-serving POS's, they are there to help. Just don't go down the GWO route, and do something that is not realistic, like double barreled tanks. Your equipment will get a lot more respect when it has gone through NSD. Period.

6. Lay low the first couple of weeks or so, and try to establish who the good RPers are. The group at NSD are all good RPers, for example. Better than the average bad RPer, at any rate.
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Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:33 am

Lamoni wrote:snip


Advertise moar.
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Postby Third Spanish States » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:07 pm

Always check the population, military information(usually in its signature's Factbook, Wikistates or NSWiki) and alliances of a NS that posted that thread about killing muslims, Jews, furries, smurfs or whatever before declaring war on them. If you don't, you might end digging your NationState's grave.

Going blindly "I DECLAER WAR" is plain suicide, specially for younger NSes.

This was probably posted before, but considering the way things are going, it didn't work.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:24 pm

Lamoni wrote: Just don't go down the GWO route, and do something that is not realistic, like double barreled tanks.


Not anymore. I ditched that a while ago, actually. Opted for a 152mm cannon instead (at DL's advice.)

But yeah... I really advise not just making things cause "odam it loks kol in dis video game!!!!" or TV shows or what have you.
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Postby Israelite Nation » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:31 am

help

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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:26 am

Israelite Nation wrote:help


A note to everyone; one-word posts are not appreciated. Try and flesh out the things you write a little more than you usually would.
Don't take a picture from wikipedia, copy a factbox and sell that on the Global Economics forum. It's obvious, it's poor quality, and it won't do you any good.
Think about what you do before you do it. I've seen people launch frontal daylight attacks with bombers at low altitude, and it's rather dull to watch.
Don't buy anything from Satirius. He'll exploit you for all it's worth (actually, take a look at his bullpup design).

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Postby Zimbaltor » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:24 pm

Ok im a new member and all this advice is helpful, but if i where an older member i would give this advice to a newer member.

Deal with issues as wisely as possible! it will effect a lot of things that have to do with your nation in the future

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Postby Sapiency » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:01 pm

Zimbaltor wrote:Ok im a new member and all this advice is helpful, but if i where an older member i would give this advice to a newer member.

Deal with issues as wisely as possible! it will effect a lot of things that have to do with your nation in the future


No.

In RP terms, your nation class doesn't mean shit.
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Postby Satirius » Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:24 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Israelite Nation wrote:help


A note to everyone; one-word posts are not appreciated. Try and flesh out the things you write a little more than you usually would.
Don't take a picture from wikipedia, copy a factbox and sell that on the Global Economics forum. It's obvious, it's poor quality, and it won't do you any good.
Think about what you do before you do it. I've seen people launch frontal daylight attacks with bombers at low altitude, and it's rather dull to watch.
Don't buy anything from Satirius. He'll exploit you for all it's worth (actually, take a look at his bullpup design).

I'll also tell you to do crack
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Travellerius
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Postby Travellerius » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:09 am

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OK fellow newbies I've created a sort of group thing called SNOM (small nations organized military) for if you feel militarily helpless and unable to act as you like for lack of population/military size. Go to this link to check it out and sign up, the more who join the more efficient it will be. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=56214&p=2383252#p2383252
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Postby Satirius » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:16 am

The only problem I see with that is that you break 50 million pretty damned fast. For example, it only takes six months to get to a billion. That's about 167 million people a month. You'll break 50 million in less than two weeks.
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Postby Travellerius » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:07 pm

The idea is that you are a "member" (full protection and decision making) then you become a "sponsor" (ability to influence SNOM and use in certain circumstances in exchange for help and resources) after you break 50mil
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Bored Mei
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Postby Bored Mei » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:17 pm

The advice I would give a newbie? Find a region you'll like to stay in and you'll have a great time.

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Postby Hegstoria » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:40 am

The city is Capital. The building is capitol. It's a pet peeve of mine, and it drives me nuts when people use the wrong one, it's like 1st grade stuff.
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Map: -currently under a redesign-

Size: 7,825,600 km^2

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Jeuna
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Postby Jeuna » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:48 am

Plan what you're going to do a day or two before you post. This isn't IRC, so no one's expecting an immediate answer.

If it helps, draw a terrain map, or ask for one. Or, if you're better at reading or listening (not making judgements here; I'm terrible at learning this way for example), figure out the terrain in your head, or, again, ask for a description.
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Postby Idaho Conservatives » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:31 pm

Make sure to describe your setting with as many senses and using as many details as possible. For example, RPing is much better when instead of entering "a base full of dudes with AKs", your military enters "a dark and menacing steel-walled base, teeming with bloodthirsty enemy soldiers wielding AK-47s." And also, please just don't post one or two sentences in an RP; there is nearly always enough to write about to do at least one paragraph.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:37 am

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVICE ANYONE WILL GET

I notice a lot, maybe every one on nationstates (including yours truly), are always so rash and do things the easy way like insulting one another during a debate, and try to solve problems the same way, example: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8497, this was when I was stupid in my early days.
And then your passive about it, and check this out, (2nd page) http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54133&p=2560495#p2560495 and everything goes fine, and at the very least don't be an asshole like I was.


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Postby Vortiaganica » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:53 am

Note: My nation is large (2 BILLION people) but I've never actually tried RPing, but do want to.

I've got a few questions:

1. I've seen a lot of FT and MT, but apparently there is a lot more than that. (I spent some time looking at the Economics forum)

How does FT and MT and all that actually work in RP?

Does you nation keep a seperate 'version' of itself for MT RP and FT RP and everything else?

2. How can I work out my GDP etc.

I've checked it out on some of the calculators around (15 trillion) but apparently those are supposed to be rough estimates. (if you are planning to base your RP nation on your NS one, which I would prefer to do)

How rough would you say those estimates are?

3. How active is the RP community and this point in time?

I last checked the forums a fair while ago (but didn't join) and remember thinking 'Wow, this is active'. It might be my memory, but it doesn't seem *as active* as it was, say, a few months ago.
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Ladarehius
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Postby Ladarehius » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:18 pm

join the region Empirial States 8) 8) :) 8)

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