Earth: Empire (FT, v2.0)

[OMGeverynameistaken]

@Netherlands
Seems fine to me. That's actually rather less, uh, advanced than the gatling gun style weapons most people have available to them.
And like Arch said, cooling jackets > spraying the barrel down with a hose


@America
Most people are already using repeating weapons with their light infantry. Linear weapons are actually quite effective, just not accurate. The rate of fire issue is somewhat nullified when you consider that a battalion of 300, your average battlefield unit, can achieve a rate of fire of up to 3,000 rounds per minute.

[Of The Arch ilands]

@America
Most people are already using repeating weapons with their light infantry. Linear weapons are actually quite effective, just not accurate. The rate of fire issue is somewhat nullified when you consider that a battalion of 300, your average battlefield unit, can achieve a rate of fire of up to 3,000 rounds per minute.

Ha ha yeh but the repeaters add to that peppering the regimental shields weakening them untill they get in range of my infantry kablamo! xD once thats gone you got the repeaters to rip through the Regiment and inflict heavy casualties along with the next volly of musket fire.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

M'yeaaaaaaaaaah, that's what light infantry are for. Issuing repeating weapons to your line soldiers is only reducing their effectiveness unless it's for a couple of marksmen per battalion or something.

Think of your line infantry as basically a sort of gigantic, modular, machine gun. Each man is, simultaneously, a part of the weapon and a part of the crew. That's what training in the era attempted to achieve, and that is, more or less, what the ideal line infantry formation was. A huge, organic, gun with a thousand barrels. The idea is that you are achieving the maximum level of firepower in that formation, and concentrating it on the enemy formation in an effort to break their shield and/or make them run away.

Light infantry, on the other hand, are there to snipe at officers, hit things at ranges over 50 yards and kill routers. They simply cannot concentrate enough firepower to effectively take down a shield, unless they're equipped with linear muskets of their own, which some of them are.

[Of The Arch ilands]

M'yeaaaaaaaaaah, that's what light infantry are for. Issuing repeating weapons to your line soldiers is only reducing their effectiveness unless it's for a couple of marksmen per battalion or something.

Think of your line infantry as basically a sort of gigantic, modular, machine gun. Each man is, simultaneously, a part of the weapon and a part of the crew. That's what training in the era attempted to achieve, and that is, more or less, what the ideal line infantry formation was. A huge, organic, gun with a thousand barrels. The idea is that you are achieving the maximum level of firepower in that formation, and concentrating it on the enemy formation in an effort to break their shield and/or make them run away.

Light infantry, on the other hand, are there to snipe at officers, hit things at ranges over 50 yards and kill routers. They simply cannot concentrate enough firepower to effectively take down a shield, unless they're equipped with linear muskets of their own, which some of them are.

Basically the light infantry are in contrast to the modern day infantryman? in the aspect they work almost independently instead of a giant group.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Basically the light infantry are in contrast to the modern day infantryman? in the aspect they work almost independently instead of a giant group.

Light infantry are, more or less, like modern infantry, although some nations might simply employ them as line infantry in an alternative uniform. It really all depends on doctrine.

[Of The Arch ilands]

Basically the light infantry are in contrast to the modern day infantryman? in the aspect they work almost independently instead of a giant group.

Light infantry are, more or less, like modern infantry, although some nations might simply employ them as line infantry in an alternative uniform. It really all depends on doctrine.

ahhh okay, and what you planning with Britain and japan =_= lol

[OMGeverynameistaken]

World domination. We're going to build a giant laser on the moon.

[Of The Arch ilands]

World domination. We're going to build a giant laser on the moon.

hasnt that already been done? yet?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Nah. We're actually converting the whole moon into a huge laser. We're going to annihilate all of your major cities.

[Great Solar Japan]

Then we're going to install an engine and pilot it to other systems to help achieve absolute domination of the universe.

[Of The Arch ilands]

blah blah blah nothing a few navy seals couldn't take care of

I Reckon that'd make quire a good Rp that actually xD, moon deathstar xD

[OMGeverynameistaken]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59659

I probably should have done something like this before, but I was lazy. I do, however, think I got everybody who's currently played, plus a few who aren't.

As of now, this is mostly suggestion and my own ideas. If you feel that it's incorrect in some aspect, please bring it up and corrections can be made.

Note that strengths and weaknesses are relative. While the UK might have comparatively weak artillery compared to the other Great Powers, it will still completely destroy, say, Thailand in a straight-up artillery duel.

On that note, I shall go and find that chart I made about power categories and include that in there.

EDIT:
Also a general note/announcement for those with colonies.

Remember that colonial infantry will almost invariably be inferior to infantry from your home state. They were either 'those damned colonials' (as in, the Americans as part of the British Empire) or 'those damned natives' (as in, all the brown people). They got worse equipment and, usually, worse training, although they might be better adapted to fighting in their native conditions, in a straight-up battle, colonial infantry will almost always lose against regulars unless they have a huge numbers advantage.

There are, however, exceptions. Some colonial units gain fame and status and, thus, become famous, for example, the British Gurkhas and the French Foreign Legion.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Also, here's a happy bonus for Japan, the US and the Dutch: Shiny pictures!

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These were just taken from my collection of Osprey books. They're a bit limited on some subjects, but there ya go. If you want more, you'll have to look them up yourselves

[FS_America]

wow there some snazzy picks Ill Admit the American army did look pretty damn sexy in the 18th century

[Great Solar Japan]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59659

I probably should have done something like this before, but I was lazy. I do, however, think I got everybody who's currently played, plus a few who aren't.

As of now, this is mostly suggestion and my own ideas. If you feel that it's incorrect in some aspect, please bring it up and corrections can be made.

Note that strengths and weaknesses are relative. While the UK might have comparatively weak artillery compared to the other Great Powers, it will still completely destroy, say, Thailand in a straight-up artillery duel.

On that note, I shall go and find that chart I made about power categories and include that in there.

EDIT:
Also a general note/announcement for those with colonies.

Remember that colonial infantry will almost invariably be inferior to infantry from your home state. They were either 'those damned colonials' (as in, the Americans as part of the British Empire) or 'those damned natives' (as in, all the brown people). They got worse equipment and, usually, worse training, although they might be better adapted to fighting in their native conditions, in a straight-up battle, colonial infantry will almost always lose against regulars unless they have a huge numbers advantage.

There are, however, exceptions. Some colonial units gain fame and status and, thus, become famous, for example, the British Gurkhas and the French Foreign Legion.

Thanks for this, OMG. I'm sure it'll prove useful. But I would point out that relations between Venice and France and Abyssinia were very tense at the point where I left. Still, she's no longer mine to command- ah, I miss thee, La Serenissima
Shiny picks are good. Me like pwetty pictures.

[Of The Arch ilands]

That guide is good i like it!

But as it says how can we improve on our traits lol, their is no Thread the involves our home regions and such, do we just mention it on a passing glance or what, as with America it says I have a good industrial base, but a weak military industry. That I want to improve on, how could i do that persay? with the RPs i have around me at the moment.

Also Relations with America on the American side have improved at least don't know about the japs, as the japs asked nicely for land in the system of Eden, unlike the Dutch that brought their guns to bare on US ships resulting in critically Damaging a Battleship of mine. speaking of which i should probably RP that, that being tugged into FTL back to the Florida Space ship yards where it can be repaired lol

[OMGeverynameistaken]

@America
They did indeed. Those tophat things with the weird crest are just ugly, though.

The 'relations' are basically the relations nations had at the start of the RP, except in the case of the present Italian States, since they didn't exist at that point.

As to improving your military industry, you'd need an IC reason to do so. The US population is rather isolationist, they're rolling in money and see no reason to jeopardize that by buggering around with lots of military stuff and risking getting Berlin'd by somebody. However, a war with Spain would be some excuse, assuming the USA didn't just totally pwn Spain in the first five minutes. Just remember that Americans at this point didn't really trust the federal government and were a bit leery of having a large military around.

[Great Solar Japan]

I have completed the organization section of my army factbook. I was planning on doing artillery, but I hit a snag- are artillery units railguns, like linear rifles, or do they still use gunpowder? Territorial holdings will come after that. Still not sure what I'll be putting on the last page.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

For Japan, they're probably using gunpowder artillery at this point, with limited access to railguns and coolant for those railguns.

Your territories are, besides Japan:
Korea (Disputed with Russia, technically a Chinese tributary)
Taiwan
The Ryukyu islands
Northern Polynesian islands
Vietnam
Fujian Province, China (Military occupation)
Hainan Island, China (Military occupation)
Vietnam

[Great Solar Japan]

I have finished writing up specs for my artillery pieces, meaning my army section is now more or less done. OMG, could you take another look over? Artillery isn't my strong point, and I'm not sure if my organization section is up to scratch or not. Is nice to have someone around to point you in the right direction.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Alrighty...

For now, I'd say that the Japanese would be relying on light guns, given the fairly limited resources. They probably wouldn't go in for big siege gun type things. Probably the biggest average gun would be a 76mm type. However, more modern weapons could be larger, although, as mentioned, the largest easily mobile field railcannons are probably about 76mm (12 pounders). Big siege guns would be rare and, really, unnecessary, since Japan didn't have the material to build fortresses to stand up to artillery until just recently.

Within the Russian army, howitzers fill two primary roles, there are 'gun-howitzers' (called unicorns) that are roughly halfway between a howitzer and a cannon in length, which are used as indirect fire support weapons (more or less as the 'traditional' artillery), while regular howitzers are employed in an anti-air support role, firing fragmentation shells and suchlike to take out aircraft and incoming missiles and suchlike. Cannons themselves are more or less heavy support weapons, like machine guns, they fire solid shot to take out armored vehicles and shielded infantry, and grapeshot to kill unshielded infantry in very large numbers.

On a cultural note, I believe the traditional battlecry of this period for the IJA was 'teikoku banzai!' which means '10,000 years to the Empire', roughly. I THINK, I can't be absolutely sure, that the 'tennoheikoku banzai' ('10,000 years to the Emperor') didn't come into use until the 30's. It's up to you, though, as to which you think sounds better

Oh, and 2-3 regiments are usually simply called a brigade, for simplicity. Quite honestly I just copied my organization off of another chart, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with it. I think it's best to represent your army just by a simple 'I have this many regiments of infantry, this many of cavalry, this many of Guards. I have this many guns of this type, this type and this type. I will eat your face.'

And such

[Empire Netherlands]

Would I have light artillery? Cause I'm really not shure.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Most nations attached light (6lb or less) cannons to infantry at the brigade level, one cannon per brigade. The Austrians particularly would deploy the cannons between brigades while in line formation to create a very strong defensive formation.

Light cannons have great advantages in mobility when compared to heavier ones. They're also a LOT cheaper.

[Empire Netherlands]

Most nations attached light (6lb or less) cannons to infantry at the brigade level, one cannon per brigade. The Austrians particularly would deploy the cannons between brigades while in line formation to create a very strong defensive formation.

Light cannons have great advantages in mobility when compared to heavier ones. They're also a LOT cheaper.

I assume I wouldn't have to many heavy guns? Also would a light artillery heavy netherlands be out of place (a battery of guns per birgade (3-4))?

[Empire Netherlands]

I updated my factbook with artillery weapons, can someone please look over them