Earth: Empire (FT, v2.0)

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Right. And note that the infrastructure outside of a few major cities is probably pretty thoroughly wrecked by the various proxy wars the Russians and British fought in the area, although the major cities themselves are probably pretty safe. More or less, this is Afghanistan after the Great Game is over, but prior to the Soviets invading.

[FS_America]

so its Afghanistan when they actually had something going for them? before the Russians wrecked it all?

lol and more fireworks in the Eden system, japanese got the British to attack the French xD by killing his own Admiral and saying it was a French assassin.

Dang and i was hoping things would cool down..... oh well there well out the way of Eden.

[The Golden hoarde]

Right. And note that the infrastructure outside of a few major cities is probably pretty thoroughly wrecked by the various proxy wars the Russians and British fought in the area, although the major cities themselves are probably pretty safe. More or less, this is Afghanistan after the Great Game is over, but prior to the Soviets invading.

Alright. Though I will be working then to shift from producing a space ship to rebuilding some kind of infrastructure.

[FS_America]

woop just finished my Naval factbook for now but please dont post on it as I may have stuff to add at a later date.

Look but dont touch as they say.

Edit: and now to start on my Military factbook American military Circa 1890-1910 here I come

Okie dokie thats the first part of my army factbook done he he my shiny factbooks

[FS_America]

Wheres everyone got to ? -looks to his left then to the right- hello....... -echoes-


Guys check out my fact books and tell me what you think please do it in here though dont want my fact books getting cluttered up.

[Venusian France]

heh posted in Manifest for you FS!

[FS_America]

heh posted in Manifest for you FS!

Thank you

[The Golden hoarde]

Just to let everyone know, I'll be out of town from tomorrow (july 3rd to the 17th.)

Upon my return Seeds of Terror with continue in a big way.

[FS_America]

Just to let everyone know, I'll be out of town from tomorrow (july 3rd to the 17th.)

Upon my return Seeds of Terror with continue in a big way.

sounds good ima get involved when you get back consider me an investor

[Great Solar Japan]

I've begun writing the army section of my factbook. I'd love some feedback. Japanese Factbook.

[Of The Arch ilands]

I've begun writing the army section of my factbook. I'd love some feedback. Japanese Factbook.

Looks good i think you should have a look at OMGs Factbook for his Army, or mine as ive modelled my Army factbook after his. how ever mine isnt completed yet, but looks good so far I like the Japanese power armour concept how ever. Can imagine the red eyes appearing out of know where on the misty mountains of some where, and before you know it the power sword has sliced you two

[FS_America]

I've begun writing the army section of my factbook. I'd love some feedback. Japanese Factbook.

Looks good i think you should have a look at OMGs Factbook for his Army, or mine as ive modelled my Army factbook after his. how ever mine isnt completed yet, but looks good so far I like the Japanese power armour concept how ever. Can imagine the red eyes appearing out of know where on the misty mountains of some where, and before you know it the power sword has sliced you two

Well this FS_Americas Factbook but ya get wah I mean... I hope

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Just a few things:

-Swords are usually not ceremonial in combat. Powered weapons are capable of slicing through just about anything and, given the strength of shielding, are quite often how combat is resolved. Kinetic shields don't stop people.

-Japanese regulars, that is, non-samurai, were generally not very good soldiers. This 'tradition' dates back to the ashigaru. They tend to be not-so-good in combat, and indulged in rather horrible atrocities outside of it. They had a tendency to simply charge, which served well enough on occasion, but resulted in high casualties. They were never particularly adept at standing still under fire.

-Kinetic shields actually convert the kinetic energy of bullets into light and sound. The round itself usually shatters from the stress.


Overall, I would suggest that the Imperial Japanese Army would rely HEAVILY on its samurai, both power-armored and not. You might distinguish between the 'lesser' sort of samurai, the poor ones who can't afford powered armor, and the upper-class samurai who can afford fancy powered armor, as they existed historically. It's important to remember that the samurai class wasn't quite so rare as people often make out, a lot of 'basic foot soldiers' were samurai who simply couldn't afford the astronomical prices of good armor and weapons.

Also, no daikatanas? I'm disappointed

[Of The Arch ilands]

Ha ha, i should get back to my FSArmy Factbook, im kinda stuck on cavalry atm, I have a tank though! ha ha xD

Well its more of a giant Fortress on tracks. Also im defiantly going to go with the Trench warfare thing for my army lol should bring a new dynamic of RPing to the table for this place. i know the russians will be to stubborn to adopt it aswell as most of the worlds powers ha ha my advantage if it comes to a stale mate

[FS_America]

Actually OMG can i have your opinions on my Factbooks?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Sure thing.

On the note of uniforms, there's not much point in issuing camouflage to line troops. The brightly colored uniforms actually serve three purposes:
1. They make it easy to tell who's on what side
2. They make it easy for officers to tell where people are
3. They (theoretically) intimidate the enemy

Issuing a greeny-brown uniform is probably not something you'd see at the present time. However, most nations with the appropriate climate, such as myself, would issue greatcoats, which were usually whatever color was available, often brown or green. Although blue was used as well since the dye was cheap.

I'd suggest going with the classic American blue uniform. The 1812 era uniforms for the US army were quite snazzy, I find. I can even get you some pictures if you like.


The 'gimple' is an interesting concept, but you should note that you're more or less replacing your regimental level artillery there, that or your regiments are very heavy on the heavy weapons, which will make them slower.


To my mind, putting the shield projector on a vehicle is rather pointless. A line brigade is going to be carrying a flag anyway, both so people know where they're supposed to be and so the enemy knows who they're facing, so why not just stick it in the flagpole like everybody else? The vehicle just adds more maintenance staff and means that a bunch of guys have to carry the bugger if it breaks down. If a flagbearer gets shot the guy behind him can just pick the shield up.


6 months is a VERY long time for training a regular infantryman. Remember, they're basically considered expendable parts for a machine. The general view is that your average line infantryman should be able to shoot, reload, march and stab things. He doesn't need to know anything else because, in the view of the upper class, the officers and generals, he's too dumb to do much of anything else. A minimum training time would be around 3-4 weeks to turn out a militiaman or garrison soldier at a reasonable level of ability. 2 months is probably the most you want to spend on training for anybody who isn't an officer or elite soldier.


Grenadiers wearing powered armor would, assuming we're going for some standardization in terminology here, be 'horse grenadiers'. Also, any kind of rapidfire linear weapon is going to be far too heavy for a man to carry without powered armor. Remember, these things are like first generation Gatling guns in terms of size and weight.


On your dragoons, generally I'd prefer to stay away from lightsabers. Powered weapons are where it's at.


If you'd like more cavalry regiments, here's a few ideas:
My own Hussar-type design might work well. The United States maintained some Light Dragoons which, I believe, were more or less like hussars in different uniforms. Otherwise, you might make use of some form of 'native' cavalry like my Cossacks.

[Of The Arch ilands]

Okay thanks OMG ill have a look and see whats what. Some pictures would be nice how ever as im having trouble finding some, on the Grenadiers yes the Standardisation is their its basically Cheap power armour that is able to be mass produced, with minimal amount of faults and brake downs. Still quite Expensive for the American Army, but then again Expense isn't an issue when your a tiny nation trying to live up to the big boy standards.

the Gimpies Are meant to be set up mostly for Defensive Purposes, as they can be set up reasonably quickly to be ready to fire at an advancing enemy regiment, Originally I envisioned them as something like the 30cal. HMG from WW2 being able to be carried by 2 to three soldiers (detachable parts ya see ) and these guys basically hide in the middle of or behind the regiment and set up as quickly as they can when the regiment stops, how ever as im going for the trench warfare esque feel and the grimy warfare tat comes with it thats where the Gimpies come from basically Stationary heavy machine guns.

[Great Solar Japan]

Just a few things:

-Swords are usually not ceremonial in combat. Powered weapons are capable of slicing through just about anything and, given the strength of shielding, are quite often how combat is resolved. Kinetic shields don't stop people.

-Japanese regulars, that is, non-samurai, were generally not very good soldiers. This 'tradition' dates back to the ashigaru. They tend to be not-so-good in combat, and indulged in rather horrible atrocities outside of it. They had a tendency to simply charge, which served well enough on occasion, but resulted in high casualties. They were never particularly adept at standing still under fire.

-Kinetic shields actually convert the kinetic energy of bullets into light and sound. The round itself usually shatters from the stress.


Overall, I would suggest that the Imperial Japanese Army would rely HEAVILY on its samurai, both power-armored and not. You might distinguish between the 'lesser' sort of samurai, the poor ones who can't afford powered armor, and the upper-class samurai who can afford fancy powered armor, as they existed historically. It's important to remember that the samurai class wasn't quite so rare as people often make out, a lot of 'basic foot soldiers' were samurai who simply couldn't afford the astronomical prices of good armor and weapons.

Also, no daikatanas? I'm disappointed

I'm still working on it. Thanks for the info, I thought since my Japan is based on the post-Meiji era, when the samurai families had largely lost their power, that I should focus more on the regular army, the samurai being more a novelty. But I can edit it, if you think it'd be better to focus more on the samurai. Nice to know the swords will actually come in handy- as Arch Islands so eloquently put it, seeing a pair of red eyes in some misty valley or such and then having a samurai pop out with a power sword would be more than enough to unnerve your average Napoleonic soldier. To be honest it'd be more fun to RP an army of samurai than normal soldiers I'm planning on doing the artillery section next. But I will make some edits to what I have so far. Oh, and please reply to my post in the East Meets the West.

[Of The Arch ilands]

Just a few things:

-Swords are usually not ceremonial in combat. Powered weapons are capable of slicing through just about anything and, given the strength of shielding, are quite often how combat is resolved. Kinetic shields don't stop people.

-Japanese regulars, that is, non-samurai, were generally not very good soldiers. This 'tradition' dates back to the ashigaru. They tend to be not-so-good in combat, and indulged in rather horrible atrocities outside of it. They had a tendency to simply charge, which served well enough on occasion, but resulted in high casualties. They were never particularly adept at standing still under fire.

-Kinetic shields actually convert the kinetic energy of bullets into light and sound. The round itself usually shatters from the stress.


Overall, I would suggest that the Imperial Japanese Army would rely HEAVILY on its samurai, both power-armored and not. You might distinguish between the 'lesser' sort of samurai, the poor ones who can't afford powered armor, and the upper-class samurai who can afford fancy powered armor, as they existed historically. It's important to remember that the samurai class wasn't quite so rare as people often make out, a lot of 'basic foot soldiers' were samurai who simply couldn't afford the astronomical prices of good armor and weapons.

Also, no daikatanas? I'm disappointed

I'm still working on it. Thanks for the info, I thought since my Japan is based on the post-Meiji era, when the samurai families had largely lost their power, that I should focus more on the regular army, the samurai being more a novelty. But I can edit it, if you think it'd be better to focus more on the samurai. Nice to know the swords will actually come in handy- as Arch Islands so eloquently put it, seeing a pair of red eyes in some misty valley or such and then having a samurai pop out with a power sword would be more than enough to unnerve your average Napoleonic soldier. To be honest it'd be more fun to RP an army of samurai than normal soldiers I'm planning on doing the artillery section next. But I will make some edits to what I have so far. Oh, and please reply to my post in the East Meets the West.

you know the best part about what i said is almost evrey battle you get into will turn into massive Smogfest due to the Discharge and coolants from the muskets lol, a Secluded regment right in the thick of things only hearing the Warcrys of samurai (that is one helll of an unnerving cry) and then the red eyes, i think would be enough to route an entire regiment lol some of the lesser trained ones anyways

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Even in the Meiji era, especially the early part, the samurai families had great power. Note how the Choshu and Satsuma clans both stood up to the Shogunate/Imperial government, albeit briefly. They even, on several occasions, inflicted equivalent casualties. Despite being less 'modern' than their foes, traditional samurai weren't guys you messed with.

My suggestion would be to consider the samurai a small-ish (relatively) elite corps with their own distinct command structure, sort of like my Imperial Guard. The 'Imperial Army' will be a reserve/cannon fodder force designed to fill the non-combat roles of the Samurai during wartime (so they aren't wasting time patrolling cities) or for use as cannon fodder, for instance, if you need an emplaced cannon battery charged and don't want to waste good troops on it.

As to the East meets West thread, I was hoping to get a reply from the Brits, but it looks like he's gone somewhere.

[FS_America]

Even in the Meiji era, especially the early part, the samurai families had great power. Note how the Choshu and Satsuma clans both stood up to the Shogunate/Imperial government, albeit briefly. They even, on several occasions, inflicted equivalent casualties. Despite being less 'modern' than their foes, traditional samurai weren't guys you messed with.

My suggestion would be to consider the samurai a small-ish (relatively) elite corps with their own distinct command structure, sort of like my Imperial Guard. The 'Imperial Army' will be a reserve/cannon fodder force designed to fill the non-combat roles of the Samurai during wartime (so they aren't wasting time patrolling cities) or for use as cannon fodder, for instance, if you need an emplaced cannon battery charged and don't want to waste good troops on it.

As to the East meets West thread, I was hoping to get a reply from the Brits, but it looks like he's gone somewhere.

Yes Esternial (Brits) is on holiday for a while... sorry he didnt tell ya on here but his main nation ses when he will be back. but hes not forgotten about us dnt worry XD i wont let him lol hes just on holidays atm

[Great Solar Japan]

Even in the Meiji era, especially the early part, the samurai families had great power. Note how the Choshu and Satsuma clans both stood up to the Shogunate/Imperial government, albeit briefly. They even, on several occasions, inflicted equivalent casualties. Despite being less 'modern' than their foes, traditional samurai weren't guys you messed with.

My suggestion would be to consider the samurai a small-ish (relatively) elite corps with their own distinct command structure, sort of like my Imperial Guard. The 'Imperial Army' will be a reserve/cannon fodder force designed to fill the non-combat roles of the Samurai during wartime (so they aren't wasting time patrolling cities) or for use as cannon fodder, for instance, if you need an emplaced cannon battery charged and don't want to waste good troops on it.

As to the East meets West thread, I was hoping to get a reply from the Brits, but it looks like he's gone somewhere.

Yes, I'm aware they still had some power, but since the feudal domains were abolished (not sure if that was Meiji or Taisho period, in all fairness), I assumed they were pretty much obsolete- hence why many supported the rise of the IRAA. But thanks for the info, and again, yes, I was planning on having the samurai as an elite corps seperate from the Army but serving alongside them, each group being under the Emperor's thumb at long last.

[Empire Netherlands]

What is Cavalry cause I have gotten very confused. Some people have powered armored soldiers and some have tanks. Which is it? Cause currently I have Tanks as Horse Artillery.

[FS_America]

What is Cavalry cause I have gotten very confused. Some people have powered armored soldiers and some have tanks. Which is it? Cause currently I have Tanks as Horse Artillery.

Im assuming it differs Much like many Armies in the 18th Century The name for one thing in one army could be totally different in another same with Regiment class's aswell its all different depending on what the Needs it suits the Army. my Army is very heavy weapons orientated. So My tracked Fortress's (Lancers) are cavalry based as my Cavalry is basically Heavy Infantry with the Heavy weapons, and such, even my "Line" Infantry have Attached Heavy weapons.

[Great Solar Japan]

What is Cavalry cause I have gotten very confused. Some people have powered armored soldiers and some have tanks. Which is it? Cause currently I have Tanks as Horse Artillery.

'Cavalry' in the year 3300 (or whatever year it is ICly) is a general term for elite/shock troops, and can refer either to armoured vehicles, power-armoured soldiers or whatever shock troops the nation in question utilises. Actual horses aren't used anymore so the term is used to denotate anything that fulfills the same role.