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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:11 pm

16" guns are very modern, expensive, and require a ton of equipment, so they only really appear on the newest and largest ships. Even most of my new ships only mount 12" guns. 16" guns are like our equivalent of the the Yamato or something similar.
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Postby Ekilion » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:46 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:16" guns are very modern, expensive, and require a ton of equipment, so they only really appear on the newest and largest ships. Even most of my new ships only mount 12" guns. 16" guns are like our equivalent of the the Yamato or something similar.


So my Terjek hydes (or however I have them spelt), they were commissioned only 2-5 years ago and they are giant flagships.
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Postby FS_America » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:49 pm

Aye i had no idea what the previous person used but yeh My Iron clad Battleships are brand new that's why there's only 3 due to the fact My Florida capitol orbital ship yards can only support 3 to be built at a time and that's lengthy at best so my Iron clads which is one of the ships in the Eden system is about 2 years old.

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Postby FS_America » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:14 pm

I posted :)

Also guys liven up a bit!
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Postby Of The Arch ilands » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:20 pm

FS_America wrote:Aye i had no idea what the previous person used but yeh My Iron clad Battleships are brand new that's why there's only 3 due to the fact My Florida capitol orbital ship yards can only support 3 to be built at a time and that's lengthy at best so my Iron clads which is one of the ships in the Eden system is about 2 years old.


They are basically my answer to take on the big boys slow and expensive but with a hell of a kick!
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Postby Empire Netherlands » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:33 pm

Same my Tjerk Hiddes were built to handle Russian Dreadnaughts, they're are only 2 (with 2 more in production), mono vs mono I think one Tjerk Hiddes is a match for almost any ship in the E:E world (and I think it beats all none Russian and British vessels)
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Postby FS_America » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:48 pm

Empire Netherlands wrote:Same my Tjerk Hiddes were built to handle Russian Dreadnaughts, they're are only 2 (with 2 more in production), mono vs mono I think one Tjerk Hiddes is a match for almost any ship in the E:E world (and I think it beats all none Russian and British vessels)



yeh one more from that 20' will blow a hole straight through my shields! and through the thick armour of my now not so shiny battleship!

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Postby Ekilion » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:50 pm

FS_America wrote:
Empire Netherlands wrote:Same my Tjerk Hiddes were built to handle Russian Dreadnaughts, they're are only 2 (with 2 more in production), mono vs mono I think one Tjerk Hiddes is a match for almost any ship in the E:E world (and I think it beats all none Russian and British vessels)



yeh one more from that 20' will blow a hole straight through my shields! and through the thick armour of my now not so shiny battleship!


Wrong Ship, that is the Van Nes that is about to blow a hole in your ship. Also your armor isn't to thick (isn't your belt armour around 18') my armour is aroun 24' :p
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Postby FS_America » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:29 pm

The outlook of this group does not look good at this moment o.O

OMG you need to go on a massive recruitment drive! start an interest thread! or kick start an old one!
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:32 pm

Go colonize some of those poor backward Galactics. I suggest Auman ;)

On a serious note, I've updated my fleet. For an idea of what it takes to mount a 20+ inch gun on a mobile ship, observe the Tsarskoe Pushka class of vessels. A 34", very powerful, gun, at the expense of cutting down an existing battleship, radically modifying the hull, and creating a weapon which runs most of the length of the ship. The rest of the ship is dedicated to either powering or cooling the main gun, with a few defensive weapons on the side.
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Postby FS_America » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Go colonize some of those poor backward Galactics. I suggest Auman ;)

On a serious note, I've updated my fleet. For an idea of what it takes to mount a 20+ inch gun on a mobile ship, observe the Tsarskoe Pushka class of vessels. A 34", very powerful, gun, at the expense of cutting down an existing battleship, radically modifying the hull, and creating a weapon which runs most of the length of the ship. The rest of the ship is dedicated to either powering or cooling the main gun, with a few defensive weapons on the side.



You know how i talked about Ark cannons ? in one of out TG's .Could i mount them onto a new class of ship, they are an energy weapon but basically an Electricity gun... im just wondering what affect a weapon like that would have on void shields?

Also i really think you should kickoff a new interest thread im sure there will be quite a few people willing to join in on the Good Oldnew fashioned fun xD (only way i can describe this xD "oldnew")
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Postby Ekilion » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:57 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Go colonize some of those poor backward Galactics. I suggest Auman ;)

On a serious note, I've updated my fleet. For an idea of what it takes to mount a 20+ inch gun on a mobile ship, observe the Tsarskoe Pushka class of vessels. A 34", very powerful, gun, at the expense of cutting down an existing battleship, radically modifying the hull, and creating a weapon which runs most of the length of the ship. The rest of the ship is dedicated to either powering or cooling the main gun, with a few defensive weapons on the side.


HEY!!!! I HAD THE IDEA FIRST!!!!!

AND YOU SAID ANYTHING BIGGER THEN 20' WAS TO BIG
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:58 pm

@Ekellion
20" in a TURRET is too big. If you have your WHOLE SHIP dedicated to ONE GUN it's a different matter. That's virtually the only way you can practically meet the power requirements to both move and shoot.
Think the Ion Cannon Frigates from Homeworld. That's the same basic idea. Only bigger and worth building in the late game :P

@FS_America
When one shielded object impacts against another, they act like solid objects, just as if the shield was a solid object. If two shields overlap when they're turned on, the shield that was turned on later will terminate at the point of contact with the first.

You can go ahead and make a new thread if you like.
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Postby Ekilion » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:10 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:@Ekellion
20" in a TURRET is too big. If you have your WHOLE SHIP dedicated to ONE GUN it's a different matter. That's virtually the only way you can practically meet the power requirements to both move and shoot.
Think the Ion Cannon Frigates from Homeworld. That's the same basic idea. Only bigger and worth building in the late game :P

@FS_America
When one shielded object impacts against another, they act like solid objects, just as if the shield was a solid object. If two shields overlap when they're turned on, the shield that was turned on later will terminate at the point of contact with the first.

You can go ahead and make a new thread if you like.



GAHH THAT IS WHAT I PLANNED ON DOING!!!!! YOU TOLD ME TO DROP TO A 20' (The origonal plan was 40')
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:20 pm

If it was a single weapon mounted through the length of a whole ship it would work. I seem to recall that you wanted multiple 40" guns in a turret.
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Postby Ekilion » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:23 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:If it was a single weapon mounted through the length of a whole ship it would work. I seem to recall that you wanted multiple 40" guns in a turret.


No it was a single 40' running the enire length of the ship (based of 40k's NOVA cannons)
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Postby Of The Arch ilands » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:02 am

What would be the Affect of an energy wepon on a void shield ?
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Postby FS_America » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:04 am

added the extra part about the current battle against the Dutch onto my previous post!

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Postby Esternial » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:35 am

Of The Arch ilands wrote:What would be the Affect of an energy wepon on a void shield ?


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Void_shield
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Postby FS_America » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:46 am

Esternial wrote:
Of The Arch ilands wrote:What would be the Affect of an energy wepon on a void shield ?


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Void_shield


@ Esternial :Im not quite sure its the same as the Void shield in this Rp tbh if you reed Omgs naval fact book youll see the terminology for this RP or even if you look at my naval fact book!

@ OMG: Also do i have the go ahead to Make an interest thread?

and bah i just cannot seem to make a ship design on paint that i like :/

and also one more question whats the standard RL time for something like a battleship to be completed?
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:20 pm

Go for it.

For the ships, you're free to use my template in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=33918

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4001/parts.png

The main hull itself is just made with the use of the bent line tool. Nothing fancy. Lots of use of control-z(undo), though :P


Construction time for a dreadnought in the game would be about a year for the basic structure and maybe a further year to get it fitted out, tested, and fully in service. Ships can be deployed prior to that, although obviously they'll suffer a bit in terms of performance. Small ships obviously take less time to build, a regular battleship could probably be throw together in 6 months and be ready by the end of the year, for example.

Given that we're on NS, ICly time is pretty much irrelevant outside the context of a thread, which means that it takes however long a thread dictates or you feel it should.
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Postby Ekilion » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:51 pm

FS I will get around to posting sometime this weekend, I am in the middle of Exams and most of my time is being taking up by studying
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Postby Germanic Mars » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:54 pm

Can I join this? I've read the opening post and it seems really interesting.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:59 pm

Sure. While, sadly, Mars is occupied by myself, you can have either Germany ;)
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Postby FS_America » Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:04 am

Kwl another possible player I've got an interest on my end as well

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