Earth: Empire (FT, v2.0)

[Venusian France]

To be clear,

compromises about partitioning former Italia colonies were offered to Venice. He was not willing to compromise, and to force my hand in the coming events. If Venice attempts to oppose French occupation well, he has brought the consequences upon himself.

As it stands, and evidenced in my posts with Mengesha, my Emperor Charles is against any conflict against the British Empire. He does not want to make war on Britain. Bavin, if you make yourself a friend of Venice and an Enemy of France, you will be forcing my hand as well as losing one of the only moderating voices of the region.

I will try to get an IC post up after work....

[Old Tyrannia]

To be clear,

compromises about partitioning former Italia colonies were offered to Venice. He was not willing to compromise, and to force my hand in the coming events. If Venice attempts to oppose French occupation well, he has brought the consequences upon himself.

As it stands, and evidenced in my posts with Mengesha, my Emperor Charles is against any conflict against the British Empire. He does not want to make war on Britain. Bavin, if you make yourself a friend of Venice and an Enemy of France, you will be forcing my hand as well as losing one of the only moderating voices of the region.

I will try to get an IC post up after work....

Wait a minute, last I checked, I was the one offering a compromise. See my post in the IC thread. And you can't really blame Venice for not trusting you, since the doge has been recieving threatening messages from the Emperor. When did you offer this compromise exactly? All I remember is you telling me you'll obliterate me if I interfere and that I should invade Italy instead- not a good 'compromise' since OMG has said that anyone who owns any part of Italy proper will have to give it up as soon as a new Italian player is found.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

@Dbrought
Re: Japan takeover
You'd have to wait until Japan had a player. Like I said, no taking over NPC states.

@Ordinia
Actually, assuming Italy falls into anarchy, it would probably collapse into city-states. I believe it was in a conversation with France where we were musing about the revival of the Papal States, the revival of the anti-popes and new crusades and suchlike.

If a new Italy player is willing to go through with that, it could be pretty awesome. Especially since they might actually stand a chance, given that many catholic soldiers might be reluctant to fight against THE POPE.

Also, BATTLE POPE.

@Soviet Anatolia
Ballistas in space would be quite workable. Possibly something like the Bowcasters from Star Wars?

You might liase with OT/Venice on the matter of space galleys, since he uses them as well.

[The Venetian Empire]

@Dbrought
Re: Japan takeover
You'd have to wait until Japan had a player. Like I said, no taking over NPC states.

@Ordinia
Actually, assuming Italy falls into anarchy, it would probably collapse into city-states. I believe it was in a conversation with France where we were musing about the revival of the Papal States, the revival of the anti-popes and new crusades and suchlike.

If a new Italy player is willing to go through with that, it could be pretty awesome. Especially since they might actually stand a chance, given that many catholic soldiers might be reluctant to fight against THE POPE.

Also, BATTLE POPE.

@Soviet Anatolia
Ballistas in space would be quite workable. Possibly something like the Bowcasters from Star Wars?

You might liase with OT/Venice on the matter of space galleys, since he uses them as well.

Though I was prevented by mutual inacitivity from going into detail about it, the Pope actually fled to Venice in the Imperial Glory thread (ex-Italy and I agreed on it). I was actually planning for him to set up shop in Venice, rather than returning to the chaos that is Italy at the moment. The Papal States as a Venetian puppet? As I have told France and Bavin, Venice's current regime is coming to and end in the current RP. Since Bavin says he won't get involved in the war, I will probably have Venice going to war with Abyssinia and France, only for the Major Council to realise the Doge's off his nut and put and end to the whole affair. After that, I'll be starting afresh, going back to Venice's econmoic roots. However, now that the Ottomans finally have a player, I might go ahead with a long pondered plan to get back Crete and Cyprus.

[Venusian France]

I would think that the Pope himself resides permanently in the Holy See of Rome. The Vatican City is independent of Italia or any other nation so unless Venice invaded the Vatican City and abducted the Pope, he still remains their and is "Neutral", I mean you could have kidnapped the Pope and moved him, in fact the French did it at one point in time, but if you did well then France would be quite angered...

I think it best we all keep the Pope neutral, its a big deal for some catholic nations.

If the new Italia wants to make a Battle Pope well perhaps that can be arranged if it comes to pass.

P.S

Venice I did offer a compromise, you don't throw your soldiers in my way and you could have Sardinia. But its not a threat that if your " Peace Keepers" try to claim parts of Italia and oppose my armies that I will respond with violent force of action.

The French and Allied powers are securing the former colonies to consolidate our borders. And the Imperial Army will be occupying Italy itself until such time as a new player arrives. When S/He does they get their nation back.

[The Venetian Empire]

I would think that the Pope himself resides permanently in the Holy See of Rome. The Vatican City is independent of Italia or any other nation so unless Venice invaded the Vatican City and abducted the Pope, he still remains their and is "Neutral", I mean you could have kidnapped the Pope and moved him, in fact the French did it at one point in time, but if you did well then France would be quite angered...

I think it best we all keep the Pope neutral, its a big deal for some catholic nations.

If the new Italia wants to make a Battle Pope well perhaps that can be arranged if it comes to pass.

P.S

Venice I did offer a compromise, you don't throw your soldiers in my way and you could have Sardinia. But its not a threat that if your " Peace Keepers" try to claim parts of Italia and oppose my armies that I will respond with violent force of action.

The French and Allied powers are securing the former colonies to consolidate our borders. And the Imperial Army will be occupying Italy itself until such time as a new player arrives. When S/He does they get their nation back.

Do you ever listen? Sardinia is part of Italy itself, which means that if a new Italian player comes along, I can't keep it. So in the long term, I'd be gaining nothing. Also, if your nation invades Venice, you'll have one hell of a fight on your hands. With a paranoid leader and a vast treasury, there are many interesting things you can do to fortify a city.

I've explained to you in great detail why I'm invading Africa. I won't do it again. Remember, RPing sometimes means listening to other people. It's a valuable skill to learn, you should try it some time.
EDIT: Also, Italy and I agreed to have the Pope migrate to Venice. If you've got a problem with that, then that's your fault.

[FS_America]

LOL all this is heating up i like it im not sure as my RP is just starting the neatherlands is wanting a peace of that action lol so yeh depending on the way that goes i doubt america will get involved in the war but i think a few very strongly worded letters may make there way to leaders of the world lol.

[Ekilion]

Lots of OOC posting, very little IC posting, lets move this to the IC front people, argue about it with your Linear muskets

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Alright, I do agree that, considering that NOBODY is going to want to play Vatican City, it can effectively be called a part of Italy for RP reasons. It also seems reasonable that the Pope might flee Rome in the event that the nation collapsed. Or he might have got wind of the King's plan to turn Italy into the Mediterranean.

However, at the same time, France is quite free to do what he wants as long as he doesn't try to incorporate Italy into France itself.

Simultaneously, I encourage all of our players to realize that not EVERY war has to end with somebody getting their country vaporized. Indeed, the MAJORITY of wars in this era tended to end with the exchange of a few border provinces, maybe a colony or two, and both nations signing a treaty to go after one or the other's former ally.

Divine right of kings, people. If you depose a fellow monarch, you're basically invalidating your own claim to the throne. You could get away with it in minor states, because nobody had heard of 'Schwartzenburg', but if you try it with a big player, even your illiterate peasants are going to call shenanigans.


Venice, please do try to remain calm. Escalating the debate into a flamewar won't help us at all. So lets all take a few deep breaths here.

EDIT:
Also, Venice, in my personal consideration, the presence of aliens would do a great deal towards helping people overcome issues of racial discrimination. As the ever relevant Mr. Pratchett points out, when you've got non-humans wandering around it starts to seem silly to discriminate based on skin color.

Plus, I have this amusing image in my head of restraints with signs saying 'BIPEDS ONLY' in the window.

[Of The Arch ilands]

that last bit OMG just said reminds me of district 9 with the giant posters with no prawns written on it lol

[Ekilion]

that last bit OMG just said reminds me of district 9 with the giant posters with no prawns written on it lol

So you won't be posting in the manifest destiny thread for a few weeks Arch il/FS america

[Of The Arch ilands]

that last bit OMG just said reminds me of district 9 with the giant posters with no prawns written on it lol

So you won't be posting in the manifest destiny thread for a few weeks Arch il/FS america

Sadly whilst i have enough time to post Icly i really dont have the time nor the euros to formulate a post that will be any decent lol the threads not gunna vanish (hopefully the forum server wont eat it lol) im mainly on this to talk to ma gf but yeh im still pottering about keeping track ill post icly when i get back in about 10 days

[Ekilion]

France are you going to post soon?

[The Venetian Empire]

Bump.

[Ekilion]

Were is France?

[Venusian France]

I am around. Easy to reach me by TG or using AIM. I've been working a lot lately summer is a busy time for all of us, no? I will be posting soon, but there is nothing holding anyone else back from posting in the thread there is certainly enough stuff to be doing.

[Of The Arch ilands]

The Guy speaks the truth lol bah i hate missing out on the action ... sooo to speak lol damn euro eating computers!

[Of The Arch ilands]

Hmmm yeh 3 more days and ill get involved in the whole Italian thing thats going down, with my president currently off world. The Vice President gets to play.

Also question? As what ive read small ether way gates can be opened indefinatly can this be used to send Transmitions through ? like messages maybe even live coms links?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Yup. That's what Russian ships use for long-range communication. Just remember that such gates are very expensive to maintain in energy terms. They're not something you'd want to leave on constantly, or, at least, while you're engaging in any energy-intensive activity.

[Of The Arch ilands]

Awwwww ok thanks for the info!

[FS_America]

Netherlands i posted on the manifest destiny thread and for those who dont know where to find it heres the Link

[Empire Netherlands]

I replied.

[The Venetian Empire]

After a lot of contemplation, I am afraid that I have an announcement to make. I have decided to leave Earth: Empires. While I've greatly enjoyed being part of this RP group, and have come to be proud of this puppet, I just think that right now, this is causing me more stress than enjoyment. With most of our members gone, there's just too few of us to keep this going. It seems that increasingly, the remaining members of this RP group are suffering from long bouts of inactivity, probably the result of the difficulties that come when trying to maintain an RP with simply too few people. We only have two IC threads at present, and one has been dragging on for months now, yet is no where near complete.

I have always enjoyed this and I am saddened to leave, but I just don't think it would be the best thing right now. This is quite a sudden decision, though I've been thinking about it for a while. If this gets going again and receives some new members, I'd love to come back and pick up where I left off- providing Venice hasn't been taken, and don't get me wrong, I would equally like someone to come along and lead La Serenissima to further glory. But in the meantime, I'm abandoning ship, I'm afraid. It was an honour RPing with you all, and I'm glad I've finished up in a true 19th century style- lots of pomp and ceremony! Farewell,

La Serenissima Repubblica di Venezia

[Ekilion]

That didn't solve much, now we have even less players, ohh well (anyone up for a recruitment drive?)

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Welcome to my curse, I'm afraid. I'm just not much of a manager for this sort of thing.

Well, Venice, perhaps you'd consider switching nations? To something you could take a more active role with? Spain or the UK, perhaps?